Who Stood Out in Last Night's Democratic Debate?

They are skewed because 25% of its citizens live below the poverty level.... the worst poverty rate in the country.
This is not by accident, this is their voting demographic and it is in their interest to grow it.

 

And you still don't get my point! Connect the dots to what you are claiming about Harris in this thread.

 

Real debate????

You have shown NO proof whatsoever that I am for or against segregation.

You have suffered defeats in our debates of the past and now are "imagining" things to make a point and "get back" at me....


You have NEVER SHOWN PROOF THAT I AM FOR OR AGAINST SEGREGATION BUT SAID I WAS FOR IT and that is NOT Real, or honest, DEBATE.

 

You just finished making that same silly claim in post 228. Repeating it verbatim a few posts hence will not get your farther . I have to walk you through this. Now I want you to reconsider what constitutes a 'vicious attack' and what does not. apply some rules of definition.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
Real debate????

You have shown NO proof whatsoever that I am for or against segregation.

You have suffered defeats in our debates of the past and now are "imagining" things to make a point and "get back" at me....


You have NEVER SHOWN PROOF THAT I AM FOR OR AGAINST SEGREGATION BUT SAID I WAS FOR IT and that is NOT Real, or honest, DEBATE.

I repeated it because it's true. I have never indicated or said what you , WITHOUT PROOF, have claimed.

My premise was that Harris made the Democrats seem disunited with her attack on Biden and that it was unfair that she did it knowing he wouldn't have the permitted time to respond. SHE didn't make Democrats look good which does NOT help defeat Trump.


From THAT you TWISTED and manipulated and "misrepresented" what I said to claim I was against segregation....it was not honest debate but clearly someone with an ax to grind about ME and NOT what I posted.

 

Harris has been hammering Biden on his opposing school busing since the beginning of her campaign. Of course he should have been prepared. CNN has also found an old video showing Joe opposed bussing so he also lied about his position during the debates. Your old great white hope got spanked.

 

No one told Biden to stop explaining. It was Biden who said his time was up. Besides, CNN has an old video clearly showing Biden opposed busing to stop desegregation of schools. Biden is a liar.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/06/30/politics/kfile-joe-biden-cnn-interview-busing-desegregate-schools/index.html?

(CNN) Joe Biden said in a 1981 CNN interview that he opposed busing to desegregate schools and that he supported efforts to cut back on courts' ability to order busing.

 

Bussing wasn't a simple issue, there was much debate.....it wasn't something you solved with a bumper sticker slogan.


Biden was given NO chance t explain or respond and Harris knew that....that's hardly honest debate.



Harris attacked Biden for no reason other than to score points and show dissension among Democrat candidates which is an excellent way to re -elect Trump.....

IF she cared about Americans, as she claimed, she should attack Trump, not members of her own party.

 

She showed everyone watching what a hypocrite and a liar Biden is. CNN has dug up old videos of Joe saying he was against busing, period!

 

Biden said his time was up not the panel. CNN has an old video of him stating he was against bussing. He lied which is why he stop trying to defend his position.

 

And HOW does that help defeat Trump? It doesn't help at all ...

 

Bussing wasn't a simple issue, there was much debate.....it wasn't something you solved with a bumper sticker slogan.


Biden was given NO chance t explain or respond and Harris knew that....that's hardly honest debate.



Harris attacked Biden for no reason other than to score points and show dissension among Democrat candidates which is an excellent way to re -elect Trump.....

IF she cared about Americans, as she claimed, she should attack Trump, not members of her own party.





NOW EXPLAIN WHY BIDEN SAID HE OPPOSED BUSSING....SHOW THE EXPLANATION....

 

Clearly you're not understanding the priorities of the progressives. Removing the establishment Democrats is their priority. Once that is accomplished they will then focus on winning back the WH. Progressives and establishment Democrats are not on the same team even though they call themselves Democrats. The left is moving the Democratic party further left and old Democrats like Biden just don't understand what progressives want to do to change the party. And clearly you don't seem to understand this either. You seem to think progressives and established Democrats are one happy family with the same immediate agenda to get rid of Trump. But you're wrong. Progressives want to push out the old Democratic regime who has failed for years to reform the US. If change is going to take place it is up to the progressives. That is how they see it.

 

The explanation is in Biden's own words as seen on the link I provided.

 

The only people Trump hasn't been good for is whiny liberals and illegal aliens, the rest of America is benefitting and prospering...

 

Then they are stupid and care less about Americans than Trump does and that's less than zero.

AGAIN, you have to imagine things to have anything resembling a point. I NEVER stated I "" think progressives and established Democrats are one happy family with the same immediate agenda to get rid of Trump""

NO, I am not because I never said it.

If they see each other as the enemy then they must WANT Trump to have another term......and don't give a red hot ship about what their constituents want...

If they want to play the racist card with each other , that's shooting themselves in the foot and allowing the Super Racist , Trump, to have another term.

 

So did Harris, " I know you are not a racist Joe BUT".


And you called me a racist with NO proof whatsoever but just your rather weak opinion.


YOU: ""What is it about the segregation of public schools that you are sympathetic with?"""


What is it about pedophilia that you're sympathetic with?

See how that works.....

 

Yeah, gotta be careful, might win elections.

Calm, sure. Sensible? She didn't say anything interesting at all. In fact, I'd be inclined to say she didn't say anything.

No, because there's a chance to elect actual good candidates who can then go on to beat Trump.

Biden would be the worse than Obama and probably even worse than Bill Clinton.

Yeah... and Trump won. He won the primary and the presidency.

It's not "garbage." This, along with many other things, shows Joe Biden to be your average Washington Swamp Man.

Here's the truth that I've stated before: Joe Biden has done more harm to African Americans than Donald Trump has. His political record is atrocious, and nothing he says points to any reconciliation with that fact.

Why do you think the Obama campaign chose Joe Biden?

Nonsense.

 

What you said is that she engaged in a 'vicious attack'. That's not what she did. It was you TWISTING and manipulating and "misrepresenting" what she did . Now do you get it? You deserve to receive' vicious attacks', if you are going to viciously attack her. So I provided an example of what a vicious attack was.

She attacked his public statements, and his record on an issue which HE brought into this campaign first by lauding his ability to work with segregationists. The natural question to ask was 'on what were you working with Senator Eastland and friends. The answer appeared to be BUSING!. He brought it into this campaign first, not her. If he did not prepare an answer sufficiently brief for this debate style, than is on Biden, not her. Its his job to defend his record in debate, not her job to pick softball questions that don't embarrass or bother him. Its a debate not a sorority picnic.

Heres a news flash. Dems are not united and everyone on the planet knows we are not united. Our debates are not supposed to provide fake news that no one will believe anyway. Conventions are supposed to show unity as does the general election campaign. That is over a year away.

 

See the difference between you and me, is that I will not twist this black woman's words so that I can claim she is really calling a white man a racist, when she actually did the opposite. When she says" I know you are not a racist". I believe what she means what she says, and that she says what she means, unless I have past evidence on which to base a suspicion. I do the same with Joe Biden. She does not have the reputation of Donald Trump for visicous attacks and neither does Biden, so I will not treat her as though she does. I also believe every word she says after that 'but'.

I don't need to provide any more proof to my 'vicious attack' on you, than you require of yourself before you make your charges on her which is none. That is my point. You deserve what you give others.

 

And yet every single candidate raised their hand when the question of free health care for illegal aliens was asked... completely united against the will of the American people who oppose it as indicated by the latest poll on the topic. Completely united on an idea will burn the country to the ground.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...health_care_initiative_for_illegal_immigrants

 

Real debate????

You have shown NO proof whatsoever that I am for or against segregation.

You have suffered defeats in our debates of the past and now are "imagining" things to make a point and "get back" at me....


You have NEVER SHOWN PROOF THAT I AM FOR OR AGAINST SEGREGATION BUT SAID I WAS FOR IT and that is NOT Real, or honest, DEBATE.






I repeated it because it's true. I have never indicated or said what you , WITHOUT PROOF, have claimed.

My premise was that Harris made the Democrats seem disunited with her attack on Biden and that it was unfair that she did it knowing he wouldn't have the permitted time to respond. SHE didn't make Democrats look good which does NOT help defeat Trump.


From THAT you TWISTED and manipulated and "misrepresented" what I said to claim I was against segregation....it was not honest debate but clearly someone with an ax to grind about ME and NOT what I posted.

You still haven't refuted one word of my post and are still bringing in crap out of your imagination..that I never mentioned...

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
So did Harris, " I know you are not a racist Joe BUT".


And you called me a racist with NO proof whatsoever but just your rather weak opinion.


YOU: ""What is it about the segregation of public schools that you are sympathetic with?"""


What is it about pedophilia that you're sympathetic with?

See how that works.....

You're squirming now since you took my statements and developed your own little story about what they contained for some obscure reason....maybe you need my attention...I don't know ...but I never gave an indication I supported segregation and yet you claimed I did and NEVER PRODUCED PROOF OF YOUR CLAIM....as usual.

 

And you still have refuted one word of my assertion that Harris never viciously attacked Biden in that debate or any time else. She was deferential, respectful and appropriate in bringing up Biden's past opposition to bussing and you were nothing of the kind to suggest otherwise.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
Real debate????

You have shown NO proof whatsoever that I am for or against segregation.

You have suffered defeats in our debates of the past and now are "imagining" things to make a point and "get back" at me....


You have NEVER SHOWN PROOF THAT I AM FOR OR AGAINST SEGREGATION BUT SAID I WAS FOR IT and that is NOT Real, or honest, DEBATE.






I repeated it because it's true. I have never indicated or said what you , WITHOUT PROOF, have claimed.

My premise was that Harris made the Democrats seem disunited with her attack on Biden and that it was unfair that she did it knowing he wouldn't have the permitted time to respond. SHE didn't make Democrats look good which does NOT help defeat Trump.


From THAT you TWISTED and manipulated and "misrepresented" what I said to claim I was against segregation....it was not honest debate but clearly someone with an ax to grind about ME and NOT what I posted.

You still haven't refuted one word of my post and are still bringing in crap out of your imagination..that I never mentioned...