Who will Obama endorse as his successor?

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When is it polite to ask the president for his recommendation of a successor?

  1. immediately

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  2. following the candidate's personal announcement

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  3. following the candidate's first primary win

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  4. following the candidate's party nomination

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  1. CyberCynic

    CyberCynic New Member

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    Obama has been taught to pride himself for his administrative decisions, and calculated opinions of the college basketball playoffs, and other sporting events when other presidents have refrained from such.

    Why wouldn't President Obama not want to tell the people right away who his choice is and start training him, or her. I know in the military and other jobs, that was one of the things we anticipated - moving people up the chain of command. Isn't that how we should be anticipating our government to be instead of the "regime change" that we are beginning to anticipate.

    And then why don't we know who the candidates are going to appoint so we can judge on the whole administration, instead of waiting for them to go through the whole thing over a couple of years and out of our focus of concentration???
     
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    Seems like it would be rude to do so before the candidate has made it known she or he will run. Everything else is just strategy.
     
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    He is unlikely to endorse anyone other than Joe Biden before late in the game because that is when he officially acknowledges his lame duckiness. As for when is it polite to ask, pretty much anytime I suppose if you want to get an equivocal response. "We have some good people running and I will support whoever the nominee will be. Until then, it is up to the voters, not me, to determine who that person is (but I have an Executive Order drawn up declaring me emperor for life just in case they choose badly)."
     
  4. CyberCynic

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    The president is charged with making nominations for executive offices - why not ask him to help us low information voters recognize the better replacement - why don't we move to the next level of political intelligence and assume that only a few people really have the qualifications to be president of the United States.
    Don't you think our understanding of strategy is kind of pretentious when we should know what makes for a good executive administrator - what is that we need a good campaigner for???

    Is everybody qualified to make pizzas?

    Nobody of integrity would leave his good work to some rank amateur - right???
     
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    Well, if Obama endorses someone I'll be sure to run the other way. We don't need another corporate owned rightwinger in power. We need progressives. And it's a sure bet he'll never endorse one of those.

    Although if he proves me wrong and endorses Warren (who is at least somewhat Progressive), I'll admit I was wrong. After I pick my jaw back up off the floor.

    It's about time for us to take the power into our own hands anyway. Heck with endorsements, heck with candidates, I'm for direct democracy and we'll vote on issues, not politicians. I bet we'll be harder to hornswoggle that way, as long as we also ensure that the people writing up the referendums do so in a way that any reasonably intelligent high school grad can read and understand it. No more five thousand page bills full of legalese.
     
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    Yeah, I say you're right about endorsing the vice-president as the default recommendation until a candidate announces. But with Biden, we can probably push that Old Joe is possibly senile, and a good chance nobody is going to cheer for Old Joe. Maybe, that could be a good dark horse ploy to campaign - Vote for Old Joe!

    If Biden turns down the recommendation, or refuses to announce his candidacy, then why do we trust him as the vice-president???

    Has Biden already declined to run???
     
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    Whoever he endorses will succeed him -- and it might not be Hillary.
     
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    jackson33 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Out of curiosity, are you suggesting Michelle Obama if somehow nominated, would easily beat any Republican?

    As for any endorsement, there are those that think he (Obama) somehow will not leave office. so short of maybe endorsing Michelle, may support but not endorse anyone, even Hillary, if she isn't asked not to challenge.

    The DNC IMO is set on a woman candidate, feeling any challenge to any "her" would work just as has any challenge to Obama "The First", has in the past....
     
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    Endorsements are made only where they are wanted. Any savvy presidential candidate would prefer to have Junior Bush endorse her opponent rather than have Barack Obama endorse her, whereas Bill Clinton's support is something any rational person would crave.

    Of course that carries weight with moderate Americans, the preponderance of the electorate; the wacko birds would rather have some washed-up entertainer like Ted Nugent get gushy about some goober.



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    Yes. Any Democrat will beat any Republican ... and a black Democrat would be even a better candidate for Democrats.

    Of course it won't be Michelle because it's too late to get her on the parade field.
     
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    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The buzz here in MA over the past couple of days is Our governor taxitall deval patrick is contemplating a run. This means based on the bee buzz I havent seen this high before in regards to taxitall deval the dems have already put a fork in Clintons and want taxitall to make a run for Presidency. Gee his first day in office here he bought himself 10000 dollar drapes for his office then told the rest of us we need to tighten our belts. He then proceeded to do absolutely nothing for the state other than spend money........HES PERFECT!
     
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    You guys are silly - Michelle Obama is not old enough to be president.
     
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    Lol. Even if she weren't it wouldn't make any difference. Those old-fashioned requirements about eligibility to be president are no longer valid. Even a Kenyan can be president.
     
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    If Biden has any IQ at all he will gracefully bow out early, and If he does that I expect we will see Hillary appoint him a SecState. so he can be her appointed successor in 2024 .His running in 2016 is the only thing that might lose Hillary the Presidency.
     
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    My suspicion recently (given the arrogant, self-absorbed personality on display over the past several years) is that your President Obama will use his pen to waive the 22nd Amendment, and declare himself Potentate For Life.
     
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    Just lookong at the numbers, with 53% approving of Patrick's job performance in Massachusetts vs 38% disapproval, it's true that he's now ahead of Christie in his state.

    And whilst Willard's approval level amongst Massachusetts residents had fallen to 39% vs 59% disapproval by the time he left his only stint in elected office, and that did not disuade him from pursuing his unrealistic ambitions, Patrick may well be contemplating having a go, but it's far more likely he'll be content with a cabinet position in the Clinton administration. In 2020, if Hillary opts to retire, he'll be 61. Willard was 64, and had been out of public services for over 5 years when he ran.
     
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    You're going to need a new constitution.
     
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    Hey watch who you're calling goober......Ted Nugent is dead to me...
     
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    oops! Mea culpa! My only defence is that I referenced "some" goober not "The" Goober.
     
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    jackson33 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well Michelle is 50yo and qualified under federal law and to my knowledge under all 50 State requirements...



    Frankly, the actions by this "first black President" WILL effect the public reaction for any and all minorities, my main problem with his policy and this may even be in the case of women.

    As for being in the "parade field" for 2016, she has been in that field for years (Google/Bing; Michelle Obama for president). As mentioned the point for certain Liberals is to maintain Obama policy, social justice, big government and so on, any other person than Obama or maybe by de facto his wife could never win a National election, IMO regardless the Republican's nominee.
     
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    could be......also, willard having even 39% approval in the central mass of liberals is like taxitall deval having 90%. Ive heard no buzz of hillary only deval and strikingly elizabeth "im 1/1000000 an indian" warren. Here in the liberal center of the universe none of them are even uttering clinton. ITs only deval or warren. Very strange. It appears thd DNC has axed clinton from my persepective here in lib land.
     
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    I can't remember Bush43 endorsing anybody and if he did it would have been that poor person's kiss of death. Instead, the Republican nominee chose Sarah Palin as his running mate and became the nominee's kiss of death instead. Nah, ol' George just wanted to get outta Dodge as fast as his little feets could carry him.
     
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    Senator Warren never said what you allege, of course, but it's moderates who decide elections in America - even in Massachusetts, the best-educated state in the nation that elected Willard but assigned him 39% approval after they had experienced his governance.

    A big mistake some dogmatic ideologues make is obsessing on the minority of "Liberals!" who wield very little power. Another one is pretending that Romney's increasing government fees by hundreds of millions of dollars was not a blatant substitute for raising taxes - one not amenable to squirreling away one's booty in the Caymans.
     
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    I never said she did where did I. I said thats what the buzz is. Its all over the radio every morning. Also I think you are confusing me with a Romney fan.
     
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    The objective of the 2008-12 presidential elections was a bipartisan coup, led by Senator Kennedy, to install an empty-suit black man to crash the government into the ground, because the Constitution is inadequate for a modern society. George Bush had the know it all to do a complete audit of the government and the large corporations and other wealthy people, and he went to Columbia to get an estimate of the drug money; Bush left the office understanding the financial health of the government, and there should be no doubt that he remains in communications with people like Paul Ryan to keep track of things - Bush set up the large IRS, he just did not prosecute the cheaters because a lot of small black groups were cheating, as well. Enron was all he went after, because he knew of them from his Governor days. Bush told Obama to blame everything on him.
     

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