Whoops, abortion support isn't increasing after all...

But I'm sure it was a good-faith error on the part of the media, lol:

"Remember how NBC/WSJ found 70 percent support for upholding Roe v. Wade, the highest number since they started polling that question? Gallup found something … different:"



http://hotair.com/archives/2013/01/...t-maybe-support-for-abortion-isnt-increasing/

 

1. Still doesn't show a majority want Roe overturned.

2. (from the article YOU cited) "The NBC poll defined Roe as creating a right to abortion in the first three months of pregnancy. Turns out a lot of people support that: Even in today’s more equivocal Gallup poll, 61 percent say abortion should be legal in the first trimester."

So....are "pro-lifers" now OKAY with first trimester abortions???

 

My point wasn't that a majority want RvW overturned. My point was that the stats that were crowed about initially were false.

 

Oh, yes.....61% is "much better" than 70% for YOUR side to "crow about".

Even HotAir admits it's "not good news for the pro-life side".....just "slightly better" than the initial report.

BTW, isn't Gallup the same polling company that had Romney beating the President in the last week of the election???

 

Relativist to the bitter end, I see.

Shocker.

"It doesn't matter that they're dishonest because" and so on and so forth.

My POINT is that the original numbers were wrong. My POINT is that these polls can be tweaked, and presented, in any way the writers of any story want to...and the writers apparently want to tweak and present them dishonestly. That's not reporting. That's propaganda.

 

Statistics lie and polls do not always show what is really the will of the people.

Polls showed that Obama would lose...and he won.
There were more idiots than we expected that voted for him.

And with abortion....stats don't reveal the truth. When have the citizens of the United States been asked collectively how they feel on Roe? Never has happened. I have never been asked in a poll anywhere about my views. In California the gay marriage...issue was brought to the people. They voted against gay marriage. Did it do any good? No. A gay judge overturned the will of the people.

Abortion is becoming harder for women to get. This is a good thing and it is happening.

 

It's still legal and most Americans want it that way

 

So it's okay to lie.

Got it.

You would also think it's okay to lie if it wasn't legal, and you wanted it legal.

cuz that's the way the progressive mind works.

 

Funny how the media never errors on the side of conservatism. And all the liberals said, "What media bias?"

 

Personally I think the media is very bias, one of the reasons I rarely or ever use a media source as evidence .. however there is usual as much bias on both edges of the media .. such as religious backed media.

 

Thanks, churchmouse, because the poll that Allie is citing?...is one of those that said he would lose.

BTW, if overturning Roe was the majority opinion...people would VOTE to see it done. They aren't.

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Isn't it funny how when the Right is shown to be in the minority opinion....you guys claim it's "the Media's fault"??? Yet same polling company supports you....you cite it as authority.

 

and what is to say that this poll has not been "tweaked" to present the story the way the writers want ... I'm sure I could find another poll that says yours is wrong and proclaim that your poll has been "tweaked" and is therefore a lie.

 

and rightly so, public opinion should not be a judge in making laws . .we all have the opportunity to put those we want into power at election time. If as you say the majority want to ban abortion then why has ever single time it has been brought forward it has been defeated, and that includes Democratic controlled states.

 

I'm sure you could. And if you're a liberal journalist, you would. Which is my point. Our free press functions not as a free press/objective reporter; it functions as the propaganda machine for the left.

 

And I'll bet Fox News told you that.

 

This actually made me smile, my political views are considered right wing .. this is my political party in the UK - http://www.ukip.org/

and there is just as much press functioning as a propaganda machine for the right, another reason I tend to try and use scientific evidence in debates .. they tend not to be either.

 

The question to have Roe vs Wade overturned does not necessarily equate to being pro-life. Also the supreme court doesn't factor public opinion and poll results in decisions.

 

So??

Actually what America needs to do is go back to outlawing abortion - it would only take a couple of years and a couple of challenges in law and next thing you know you will be where we are

Laws are on the books but abortions happen regardless and many of them "legal"

Why? Because of the "Health and safety of the mother" clause

But what it HAS done here is pull the teeth of the "pro-lifers"

 

so what does it equate to then?

 

current abortion laws, the elective period allowed for abortions, personhood or what defines a viable baby....

 

Maybe in your country. We're talking AMERICAN politics now, skippy. Pretty much puts you in the irrelevant zone in ours...right wing politics elsewhere is left wing here.

 

Back up that statement...most Americans want it that way? Ya know most Americans did not want Osamas health care package either right?
And most people want guns, right? And most Americans do not want gay marriage. Right?

How can you speak for all Americans...the fact is you can't possibly do this.

 

And most kids have sex...so lets strike all the sex laws for kids under 18. And most kids do drugs...so lets make them all illegal. Lets just make everything legal...cause there is someone who is gonna do it anyway.

And you should be fighting hard to make abortion legal....late term abortion that is...for any reason.

 

Then look at the scientific evidence about life in the womb.

 

and your opinion on all of the above is?