Why abortion is a good thing

That doesn't mean she is not against them. She can be against them but allow the woman to make her own choice.

 

Lena Dunham opens her mouth with predictable results:

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2016/12/20/lena-dunham-i-still-havent-had-an-abortion-but-i-wish-i-had/

Actress Lena Dunham announced during the most recent episode of her podcast “Women of the Hour” that she wishes she had undergone an abortion in order to combat “stigma around this issue"
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Is this any worse than Trump saying he wished he had a Purple Heart?

 

Irrelevant but much worse.

 

Prove it.

 

To go back to the first post OP said that killing babies makes American safer because %1 of American adults are in jail, but by that reasoning someone could argue that if the government killed every other baby born then we would have 50% less people in jail. But then we could have killed bill gates or Abe Lincoln or some one important to western civilization.

And to take the fundamental arguement, in what world does legalizing killing innocent babies make America safer. Last time I checked murder was generally a bad thing. It simply baffles me that some one would want to kill millions of baby's just because 1% of them will statistically grow up and be criminals. When did american citizens go so wrong as to want to kill millions of baby's because 1% of them will be criminals. Last time I checked killing someone before they have done anything wrong because there is a 1 in 100 chance that they will be a criminal is still murder.

 

I believe the OP was talking about abortions not "killing babies".

 

How is abortion not killing babies. The way we define life if we are on mars is if we see living cells then it is life. Fetuses are living cells so they are in fact living. They are also made of only human cells and have brain waves at 3-4 weaks into the pregnancy, which means that they are humans. Now since a fetus is a human and it is living that means it is indeed a baby.

The way late term abortion are done is by have a C-section and pulling out the baby's whole body except it's head, then they cut a whole in the baby's neck and pull out its brain. Now if the doctors messes up and the baby's head were to come out on acsident it then becomes illegal to kill the baby. How weird is that, if the doctor "messes up" then it is no longer legal to murder the baby, but if the doctor does it right then it is perfectly legal to murder the baby.

Earlier abortions are done by crushing the baby inside the mother and then using sucktion to remove all the guts and brain matter. The world is severely messed if we think that cutting wholes in baby's necks to pull out there brains or crushing baby's and sucking up the broken pieces is something that is ok to do. Last time I checked killing baby's is murder.

 

Fetuses are indeed baby's they have brain waves after 3 weaks. The way abortions are done in the late term is they pull out the entire baby except the head, then they cut a whole in the baby's neck and suck outs its brain. Cutting baby's necks and sucking out there brains sounds like a crime. But if the doctor messes up and takes out the baby's head too, then I becomes illegal to kill. Isn't it funny how the exact same "fetus" is legal to kill while its head is still in the mom, but it is illegal to kill while it's head is out side of the mom.

For earlier abortions they crush the baby and suck out the broken parts. Last time a checked crushing baby's and sucking up there pieces is a crime. But the leftists think you should be able to murder unborn baby's.

 

You act like carrying a baby to term and the pains of childbirth are easy peasy. Humans have the most difficult birthing pains in the entire animal kingdom because the human head is larger than any other newborn, 2/3 adult size at birth. "Try passing a bowling ball" to quote Robin Williams. Many women still die in childbirth despite all that can be done.

If God is anything even close to a logical being he would place the soul into the body at BIRTH, which is what Augustine thought was the case until the Church Fathers had him get with the Catholic program on women's rights. After all, at least as many, and probably more, pregnancies fail as succeed naturally if we count all the pregnancies that we never know about because they spontaneously miscarry in the first month (estimates are possible based on the number that do come to light)

A child isn't just a very real and serious threat to any woman's life, it's a terrible and life changing responsibility that most people at some point find almost overwhelmingly difficult even if they planned on having it. If a woman doesn't want a child for ANY reason, that's a good reason. Why you conservatives all seem to think that people will instantly turn into good parents when you FORCE them to have children they weren't planning on is beyond me.

 

Your first glaring error...NO ONE has EVER said a fetus isn't living.
A fetus is a fetus and a baby is a baby ....that's why there are two different words, they are two different things.

NO, a fetus being human doesn't make it a baby, that makes it a human fetus. Would you call the fetus a teenager or senior or a thirty something? No, you wouldn't because there are stages in human development and one is "fetus" and it is nothing else just as toddler means one thing, a toddler. Teenager means one thing , a teenager....why don't you call the fetus a teenager??????????




AND, you have no idea what constitutes an abortion.

 

You *do* realize that Intact D&X is illegal, right?

 

The foetus might not agree..
I was almost aborted 60 years ago and some people might not have minded, but I might have minded..

 

Let us know when the fetus is capable of making and articulating an opinion, k?

You would have never known the difference.

 

Hmm that's debatable; I'd have been in a nice warm womb one minute and in a cold hospital skip the next, thinking "what the hell...?"

 

Nothing can think when it isn't capable of thinking and/or when it's dead. Didn't you know that?

 

You would have been incapable of thinking anything. Please educate yourself on fetal development.

 

Prove it..

 

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/when-does-consciousness-arise/

 

YOU FIRST claimed a fetus can think, even a dead fetus can think ....so that means it's up to you to prove it can

 

On the other hand you claimed foetuses can't think, so prove it..
The fact is nobody knows one way or the other, so the debate is stalemated.

 

http://freakonomics.com/2005/05/15/abortion-and-crime-who-should-you-believe/

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...ures/1999/does_abortion_prevent_crime/_2.html

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The sheer ignorance in that post is appalling!

 

Nope!

Science has established that the fetus is incapable of thought until the 3rd trimester.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/when-does-consciousness-arise/

Secondly a fetus is effectively asleep in the uterus for a number of reasons including a lack of oxygen.

 

Ah but can we take the word of scientists?
For example some say stuff like this below, do you believe them too?..-

"When I began my career as a cosmologist some twenty years ago, I was a convinced atheist, I never in my wildest dreams imagined that one day I would be writing a book purporting to show that the central claims of Judeo-Christian theology are in fact true, that these claims are straightforward deductions of the laws of physics as we now understand them. I have been forced into these conclusions by the inexorable logic of my own special branch of physics."- Frank Tipler (Professor of Mathematical Physics), 1994 The Physics of Immortality. New York, Doubleday, preface.

 

The credibility of serious scientists is not impugned by a single kook!

Why has he not published his drivel in any of the peer reviewed scientific journals?