Why are anti-abortionists ashamed to call themselves anti-abortionists?

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  1. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why are anti-abortionists ashamed to call themselves anti-abortionists?

    Opposition to abortion isn't "pro-life," it is being anti-abortion. So why don't they call themselves "anti-abortionists?" What are they ashamed of? Why do they hide behind the false words of being "pro-life?" Why deny themselves?

    The term being "Pro-life" origins back to when the battle for legalizing contraceptives was being fought.

    Most people don't know that in the past having, selling or using contraceptives was a criminal offense. These were HUGE political and social battles between the Catholic Church and the rest of society, with the Catholic Church and some other religious organizations having massive political power.

    Since contraceptives prevent "new life," new life that is "conceived in the mind of God" making a new soul. Thus, opposition to legalizing contraceptives was "pro-life" by not allowing using contraceptives to block "God's will" in "conceiving" a new life. "Life begins at conception" meant the moment God conceived of a new soul, ie person.

    Actually, supporters of legalized contraceptives also mostly were anti-abortion, arguing legalizing contraceptives would eliminate abortions. When the battle to legalize contraceptives was finally won, the Catholic Church then declared that "pro-life" now instead meant anti-abortion, while altering the moment when God "conceives" a new life is the moment of the fertilization of a human female egg - not prior to that fertilization by the soul first being conceived in God's mind.

    All that dates back centuries to the Catholic Church promoting maximum numbers of children for Catholics so Catholics outnumbered others, particularly since the Catholic Church was in so many wars and needed more Catholic soldiers.

    All the terminology, "pro-life" and "life begins at conception" originate to opposition to contraceptives, not anti-abortion.

    "Pro-life" is not pro-life at all. 500,000 women die and 5,000,000 are permanently crippled by pregnancy and labor each year. Women are murdered because they are pregnant and the man doesn't want responsibility for the children. Being opposed to abortion is NOT "pro-life," it is anti-abortion.

    "Pro-life" means opposition to birth control, family planning and contraceptives - as does the "live begins at conception" slogan. Being anti-abortion is not "pro-life," it is being "Anti-abortion."
     
  2. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    Good post.

    They use it because it sounds all warm and fuzzy and research has shown the use of negative related words such as anti are not people friendly, they do not respond well to it as it brings rise thoughts of being subversive. By using the incorrect pro in enforced a positive reaction from their targeted crowd.
     
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    "Pro-life" sounds better than "anti-abortion" and emphasises the reason for many people's opposition to abortion. That's pretty much why the term is still used.

    When the Catholic Church shifted its stance, it was not altering the definition of the beginning of life. Life has always begun at conception, for Catholics. It just takes the position, nowadays, that preventing a life from being started in the first place - through contraception, or preferably through abstinence - is preferable to killing it once conception has already occurred.
     
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    So in reality then it is used because it sounds better .. correct, even though it is incorrect usage.
     
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    The falseness of calling anti-abortion "pro-life" needs to be pointed out in any discussion. They are not "pro-life." They are anti-abortion. It also should be pointed out that pro-choice is not pro-abortion, it is pro-choice.
     
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    The term pro-life is entirely too inclusive for what the term is actually used to describe. Most pro-life folks are not actually pro-LIFE. They're anti-abortion like we all know. That's why, in this forum, you'll see some of the same folks who give lip service to being pro-life also cheering on war and terrible treatment of refugees and illegal aliens. They'll criticize health care programs, they'll cheer every time a minority gets killed by a police officer. Back when all those children were coming across our southern border, or at least back when that was a big thing in the news, I saw some of the pro-life folks on this forum talking about those children as if they were the bubonic plague incarnate. Not a drop of sympathy or pro-lifeness was to be found.

    So the term pro-life should stop being used not just because it was hijacked from it's original intended use, but because the term is simply incorrect to describe a lot of the folks who make claim to it. But at the end of the day, Pro-Life sounds a heck of a lot better and less prudish than anti-abortionist so I doubt any meaningful switch will happen. Pro-life makes some people feel like they're noble and courageous which fuels the heroic narratives about saving babies that exist en mass on the pro-life side, while anti-abortionist just makes you sound like a Mr. or Mrs. No.
     
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    You pro-abortionists can play all the word games you want. Pro-abortion = pro-murder. It really is that simple.

    Actually I am pro-choice and anti-abortion. Pro-choice before conception, pro-life after conception.
     
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    I'm pro-"mind your own business"

    I've given birth more than once and can't imagine ever having an abortion but I also know full-well that I have ZERO right to tell any other woman how she should deal with an unwanted pregnancy. That is something she needs to figure out with her own family, friends and/or doctor.

    And so-called "pro-life" men are a joke. When you can push a baby out of your penis, you can have an opinion on abortion...until that time, you have zero idea what you're talking about. If you're concerned about unwanted pregnancies, go make speeches to young men about using contraception or abstaining until they want to be fathers.

    Bottom line, no one...male or female...has the right to interfere with the personal health issues of anyone else without their compliance.

    Abortion is never going to stop happening unless there's some major innovation in birth control. Until that time, women will exercise their rights to terminate a pregnancy, at their own will, like they always have since the dawn of time. People arguing over this issue are wasting their time.
     
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    I am pro abortion. I am also pro heart surgery and pro dental surgery. They are medical procedures....nothing more.
     
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    Tooth killer!
     
  11. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    :roflol: the only people that play word games are the so called pro-lifers, a few examples

    calling women who have abortions murderers
    calling a fetus a "baby" or "child"
    purposely trying to blur the lines between the human adjective and the human noun


    Face reality "pro-lifers" are anti-abortion nothing more nothing less.
     
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    exactly, a person can be pro-choice and pro-life

    they just do not feel it's their place to choose

    on the other hand, anti-chociers would have no problem telling a rape victim they had to have their rapists baby as to them, the do not support choice

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