Why are Christians so incredibly gullible?

What mental problem would cause people to believe that stuff can talk? A talking snake, a talking donkey, a talking serpent, a talking dead guy, etc.

People in mental institutions ALSO believe that stuff (like the walls) talks.

Seriously, is religion a mental disease? Your thoughts?

Smartphones "talk", yes, but not dead guys.

The Bible is simply another legend, as it's supernatural claims have no basis in reality.

I love Christians enough to want to see them face reality.

Your suggestions as to how we can bring Christians into the real world, where stuff doesn't talk?

 

We must wait another hundred years....by that point the old guard will have passed, people will have moved more deeply into the information age, and The Idea of God will be seen as silly.

 

Good. But 20 years will probably do it.

 

Humans are funny critters.. We're naturally superstitious, gullible and emotional in our thinking. Logic and reason typically play second fiddle to these qualities, and that balance varies from person to person, with a majority being somewhere in the middle ground between them to the point where the fear of death, inability to cope with a godless and chaotic universe, conditioning from childhood and familial/societal pressures keep them believing in some faith or other.

I have to wonder about people who say that the universe appears designed to them, or something of the sort. I can only conclude that a certain bias toward their religion is influencing their thinking here, because I don't see any kind of intelligent design behind nature. I just see things developing as they will do according to the physical laws.

 

People believed all sorts of odd stuff in the past, and there's not much sense in fussing about 'the Bible'. The New Testament is something else again, suggesting some very dramatic developments that it was in no-one's interest to make up.

 

The NT has dragons....DRAGONS. And Jesus accepted slavery....SLAVERY. Obviously they were insane.

http://www.evilbible.com/Slavery.htm

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It was in the founder's interest to make up heaven/hell just as much, if not way more, than it was in Jack and the Beanstalk's founder to make up a magic beanstalk!

 

As usual, Durandal nails it better than anybody else.

 

Mankind created the words to even share the idea, stories and even posts.

 

Ignorance, and the logical fallacy of 'appeal to a common belief'.

But hey, don't single out the Xtian... Muslims think they are getting 72 virgins by blowing themselves up. Islam takes it to a whole new level of stupid compared to Xtianity.

 

While the vast majority of Religious people do not believe the things you attribute to them I have one question.

How does it effect your life?

 

that's just it, life 'breaks the law'.

The whole of existence is not of a reductionary (Planck), the existing paradigm of physics. It's actually quite opposite.

Here is an idea to consider: to tap the surface of a pond, the existing watch the wave rolls until the pond is flat again but miss the conservation that in fact, the wave is entangling more mass over time and its creation. (the tap)

An evolution (fractals), to the nano scale does sustain the energy controls the environment as much as the mass. It is not that the energy (wavelength) intends to reduce to an environment, but to resonate (sustain) in time. It is actually just about completely opposite of what people chemically follow within the 2nd law of thermodynamics.

Life: purposed to continue (once started it instinctively intends to live)

It is the global buster and it is all based on changing the perspective on what energy itself is, then including the entangled (gravity) of its time. Light is the basis of gravitation proven by entanglement. The perpendicular planes of the light (see the whole spectrum) of electric and magnetic fields, are the method of combining the chemical analogies of current science. See the golden ratio at the combining of the fields sphere.

It's all changing and why just about everything in the global sciences, important to view is on light and the understanding of light (EM) Light itself being the energy upon mass, versus the electron (potential difference model).

Life is not a reductionary state, nor is the universe (some big expansion to sustain the physics). That model is what is wrong with understanding life, evolution and just about every phenomena we use everyday


It is in the middle of its change, right now all over this earth; paradigm shift!

 

to be mislead as to how something works, can ruin the next layers in learning.


For example; genesis versus evolution.

Or the funniest one is when people believe that 'we' were kicked out of some garden (garden of eden), when in fact we all breath the same air etc.... It has given people an idea - belief that they are a separate unit of life, within the universe, when we are a 'light' (life) upon mass, instinctively trying to survive, within the garden (the universe)



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Both belief systems are in the process of being discredited, and they don't yet see that.
Mohammad was suicidal. Clearly a loon.

His suicidal tendencies: http://answering-islam.org/Silas/suicide.htm
And
http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2012/10/why-did-muhammad-attempt-suicide.html

 

A million ways. I value the TRUTH, they don't. We are fighting the longest war in US history, with no end in sight(!), against people who quote a book that has a flying horse. I care about people seeing the truth, and not avoiding reality, like religious people all do. I care about my fellow human, so I don't just ask myself "how does this effect me?" Unlike Jesus, I care about people of other religions, and if I were the overlord to heaven I'd let them all in, unlike the selfish Jesus. I'm more moral than Jesus, obviously.

If they don't believe those things (like you claim), then if they weren't scared, they'd create new versions of those texts where all that nonsense is simply not brought forward. It doesn't take a genius to figure that out. "Yep, we definitely need to bring forward the part that mentions a talking donkey...or a flying horse....etc." They are delusional. Dawkins' "The God Delusion" hits it right on the head. Dawkins is real, Jesus/Allah, etc. are fake.

 

That fully depends on what you mean by truth.

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If you think that is why we are fighting the war then your first statement is a lie.

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Well most religious people I know seek the truth of things.

The fact that I practice a religion does nothing to you. Not one thing.

I can't speak for Jesus but I can say that attributing that to Jesus would be troublesome considering how the same stories that include those kinds of phrases have him doing the exact opposite.

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And this is where you fail. Keeping the original text and talking about it in context is more important than ignoring that our history included such things. But alas many in all three great religions have done exactly as you say. Have you read about them?

Prove to me God is fake.

 

Unicorns, dragons, giants, talking snakes, flying horses, talking donkeys, more unicorns....if you think that's TRUTH then you must think that Santa, Jack/Beanstalk, Nessie, Bigfoot, Thor, Wotan, etc. are all true. Religious people think that a fairy tale is true if it talks about where you go when you die, but not the other ones. Ridiculous.

Prove to me that Bigfoot is not real, then we'll talk. Your extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. I don't make extraordinary claims like religions do, because I'm more sane. I don't say that MY magic dead invisible friend (who is too shy to reveal himself) is real, unlike the religious people on this forum. They are well-intended, but have been duped by Paul, Mohammad, Joseph Smith, or L Ron Hubbard, and other charlatans wanting the easy route to power. They are intellectual cowards, who, when it comes to the question "where do I go when I die", will latch onto fairy tales instead of saying "I don't know - just might be a possibility."

 

Incredible. As if "kill gays" has ANY helpful significance in the world today. Incredible. Religious people lack even the basic moral fabric to be honest and say to themselves "I think my prophet got this one wrong....."
Immoral fools.

 

Your acceptance/approval of magic, and disdain for reality, provides cover for the extremists.
But I think YOU are an extremist.
Here's a test for an extremist: are you so extreme that if your religious texts say to kill gays that you can not say to others "my religious texts got that wrong, that one part is immoral". Can you, or are you extreme?

 

Well. it was a general belief at the time, so he didn't make it up. Are the dragons in Revelations? 'Ravings of a drug addict', said Shaw. In fact it's Resistance code, and we lack the key.

 

Actually no...here is the thing. You made a declarative statement and called me dumb for not believing it. So prove you statement or remember it is just your opinion.
I have not made any declarative statements about any of these things.
Telling me what I believe is just stupid. Are you stupid? If so should I just ignore your stupidity?

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Statements from ignorance have no place here.....

 

But I don't do that. I don't provide cover for any extremists, in fact I am in a better position than you will ever be to stop them. Why, because I understand the text they use and the ones you seem to have an incredibly childish view of.

The texts doesn't say Kill Gays. But I will comfortably say the writers of the Torah got a whole lot of things wrong. That doesn't mean we ignore it, it means we confront it.
Funny those same rules don't seem to apply when you call people names. Can you say it is immoral to call me names?

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Uh, if I'm better than god, then god is just a made up entity from some ancient goat-herder. Come on.

Sorry if I call you names, as I don't want to do that, as such.

Ah, but the texts DO say to kill gays. Dawkins says treat gays equally, but Jesus never spoke up for the equality of gays, so Dawkins is far more moral than Jesus....so Jesus is likely not real like they claim he is. If Jesus was real, Dawkins couldn't touch him in regards to morality, but that's obviously not the case. Mohammad also said to kill gays. Sick SOB's.
The book associated with Jesus says to kill gays, and Jesus just let's that slide.............immoral.

 

No that is not what the text says. The text is unclear about what "Man lying with a man as with a woman" means, because it could relate to the Temple rituals that involved all kinds of sexual behavior. But that is not the point. The Bible is an attempt to find wisdom and yes it gets things wrong.

As for you constant statement about what is moral, I am sorry but you are not the final arbiter of what that is.

 

Only RELIGION can get a decent person like lolo to poo-poo the acceptance of SLAVERY....only religion.
Jesus COULD have appeared sometime in the last 2000 years and simply educated us that slavery is wrong, thereby relieving the suffering of millions, but he's not as moral as I am (if I had those super-powers I'd of course do that). If you'd do that yourself, then you too, are more moral than this imaginary friend is. Imaginary friends have many holes in their story, because, well, they're imaginary.