Why are Republicans so opposed to vote by mail?

Yes.
You could respond to my challenge for you support your claims by supporting your claims.
I mean, if you can.
But you can't.
Because they are unsupportable nonsense.

 

I did.

And I see no specific objections to what I said.

You don't like it, that's fine. It doesn't alter reality.

 

No.

You made vague references to information found in texts you did not cite - in essence you responded with "look it up"
Cite your source, quote your text.

We both know you won't because we both know you can't.

Thus, my response remains sound: Unsupportable nonsense.

 

Just point out to TOG 6 that the only known instance of significant cheating in the 2018 election was the Republican in North Carolina.

 

"The Republican Party is giving itself somewhat of an ultimatum: improve at courting racially diverse and young voters or be condemned as a perennial loser at the national level. That's a core message of a comprehensive report that the Republican National Committee (RNC) will release Monday, which proposes wholesale changes to the way the party operates in the wake of back-to-back losses in presidential elections.

The 97-page report, commissioned by RNC Chairman Reince Priebus, is blunt about the mistakes the party has made in past elections, especially when it comes to alienating some of the fastest-growing groups in the country that have gained increasing political influence, such as Latinos, African-Americans, Asian-Americans and people under the age of 30."

https://abcnews.go.com/ABC_Univisio...rty-diverse-face-extinction/story?id=18752174

"Since its enactment in 1965, Section 5 has had the greatest impact in dismantling voting discrimination of any congressional action, successfully blocking more than 1,000 instances of discriminatory election rules advanced by state and local officials that would have weakened minority voting power or blocked minority voters from casting a ballot altogether. 5 Section 5 also served as a strong deterrent against countless discriminatory voting changes from going forward.6 Because of its effectiveness, Congress reauthorized Section 5 four times, most recently in 2006."
https://www.aclu.org/sites/default/...he_voting_rights_act_final_for_submission.pdf

"Based on a record “over 15,000 pages in length,” including “‘statistics, findings by courts and the Justice Department, and first-hand accounts of discrimination,’”64 Congress concluded that state-sponsored racial discrimination in voting continues to be concentrated in the jurisdictions long covered by the Voting Rights Act. Indeed, Congress found that many of the same state and local governments that had flouted the Fifteenth Amendment and had first occasioned the Voting Rights Act in 1965 continue to engage in racial discrimination in voting on a systematic basis.Thus, despite considerable progress towards the goal of a multiracial democracy demanded by the Fifteenth Amendment, Congress found that preclearance still served the vital goal of preventing government-sponsored racial discrimination in voting. In many cases, Congress found that just as minorities were close to exercising political power, state and local governments interposed discriminatory voting changes. As conservative jurist District Court Judge John Bates observed in rejecting Shelby County’s challenge, given “the extensive evidence of recent voting discrimination reflected in th[e] virtually unprecedented legislative record . . .

The raw numbers show that preclearance has protected hundreds of thousands –if not millions –of citizens from voting discrimination. Between 1982-2006, more than 750 Section 5 objections by the Attorney General blocked the enforcement of approximately 2400 discriminatory voting changes; over 800 other proposed voting changes were withdrawn or modified when DOJ asked for more information to justify the voting changes, many in circumstances suggesting intentional discrimination was afoot."

https://www.acslaw.org/wp-content/uploads/old-uploads/originals/documents/Gans and Wydra - A Close Look at Shelby County v. Holder.pdf

Welcome to the real world.

 

This does noting - that is, nothing - to support your claims that:
- Cheating is what keeps the Republican party alive.
- The GOP keeps coming up with BS ideas, dozens of them every year, to cheat.

This does noting - that is, nothing - to support your claims that:
- Cheating is what keeps the Republican party alive.
- The GOP keeps coming up with BS ideas, dozens of them every year, to cheat.

This does noting - that is, nothing - to support your claims that:
- Cheating is what keeps the Republican party alive.
- The GOP keeps coming up with BS ideas, dozens of them every year, to cheat.

And thus, my response stands:
Unsupportable nonsense.

Welcome to the real world.

 

The day after the SC gutted the CRA, North Carolina passed the single largest voter suppression bill in American history.

Before that, there were attempts to screw with elections every damn month.

Right now Republicans are trying to suppress voting by mail.

But none of that matters to you.

It's in the real world, and you don't go there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression_in_the_United_States

https://news.emory.edu/stories/2018/09/er_anderson_one_person_no_vote/campus.html

 

Another claim you cannot support.

Another claim you cannot support.

Another claim you cannot support.

Why do you continue to make claims you know you cannot support?

 

Ouch.

You don't know how to respond substantively.

 

Says he who makes statement after statement after statement with no capacity to support them.
Who's the troll here?

 

Actually, I have provided a ton of support, you ignore it.

At the same time you have yet to make a single substantive reply.

The apparent conclusion is that you don't know how to do substantive discussion.

 

You know your claim, above, is not true, as you know -none- of the sources/text you provided substantiated the claims you made.

Burden of proof is fully on you - I need not in any way counter a claim you cannot support.

Says he who makes statement after statement after statement with no capacity - or intention - to support them.

So, when all is said and done, you're just another troll with nothing to say.

 

After the Civil War, the South went on a rampage of terrorism. Some number of thousands were killed, some number of millions were driven out of the South. Part of that was Jim Crow.

Jim Crow never entirely went away.

They've been trying to make it come back. Desegregation stopped in 1989, and the country has been getting more segregated. If you were to look into this in detail, it's a constant. The racists are always at it. The Acslaw article goes over that, but that's still just an overview.

I'm a member of ACLU, and they send me reports of work they do trying to stem the tide.

You could go your whole life and never know. I had a prof that did her phd on racism. If you take a close look, it is literally astonishing, and depressing. We are in a historic resurgence of racism.

You can deny it. Like I said, some things are constant. But it looks like Americans are ready for change.

 

None of this blathering supports the claims you made.
Why do you make claims you know you cannot support?

 

Hmmmm.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/22/politics/kentucky-poll-locations/index.html

 

The Republicans must be slipping I'm surprised they are leaving that many open.

 

Makes me thinking that you don't have it?

Will be very wondering if not ... because so stupid is not even the USA ... or I am wrong and they are really such dunbasses in such an important point?

 

The fact that we don't have adequate protection.

Like I said, we used to force countries to do this. In the 2000 presidential election, when the world found out we didn't have something so basic to democracy, they nearly busted a gut laughing.

 

That's not uncommon with some, grand assertions made without any support.

1 In 5 Mail-In Ballots Rejected As 4 Charged With Fraud In New Jersey Election

Guess Which Party
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“We did not receive vote-by-mail ballots and thus we did not vote,” she said. “This is corruption. This is fraud.”

They support gathering to protest, but not to vote.

Jackson faces up to 16 years and six months in prison, Mendez faces up to 31 years and six months in jail, and the other two men also face jail time if convicted.

Mail-in ballots have long been acknowledged by voting experts to be more susceptible to fraud and irregularities than in-person voting. This has raised concerns from President Trump and other Republicans about the integrity of national elections in November, which are expected to include a dramatic increase in mail-in ballots. If Paterson is any guide, it ought to concern Democrats as well.

Over 800 ballots in Paterson were invalidated for appearing in mailboxes improperly bundled together – including a one mailbox where hundreds of ballots were in a single packet. The bundles were turned over to law enforcement to investigate potential criminal activity related to the collection of the ballots.

The board of elections disqualified another 2,300 ballots after concluding that the signatures on them did not match the signatures on voter records
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In the City Council election, 16,747 vote-by-mail ballots were received, but only 13,557 votes were counted. More than 3,190 votes, 19% of the total ballots cast, were disqualified by the board of elections.

Reporting by NBC further uncovered citizens of Paterson who are listed as having voted, but who told the news outlet they never received a ballot and did not vote. One woman, Ramona Javier, after being shown the list of people on her block who allegedly voted, told the outlet she knew of eight family members and neighbors who were wrongly listed.

There were multiple reports that large numbers of mail-in ballots were left on the lobby floors of apartment buildings and not delivered to residents’ individual mailboxes, further casting doubt on the integrity of the election.

 

Two of the election results in Paterson were particularly close. Initially, challenger Shahin Khalique defeated incumbent Mohammed Akhtaruzzaman by 1,729 votes to 1,721. After a second recount on June 19, that race is now tied 1,730-1,730. In that race, a video posted to Snapchat has surfaced that appears to show a man named Abu Razyen unlawfully handling a large stack of ballots he indicates are votes for Khalique. Khalique’s brother, Shelim, and Razyen have been charged by the state attorney general for crimes including fraud in casting mail-in votes, tampering, and unauthorized possession of ballots.

Incumbent council member William McKoy lost by 240 votes to challenger Alex Mendez after a recount on June 1. However, the McKoy-Mendez race is far from over – in the third ward of the city where the race was decided, over 24% of all ballots were disqualified by the Board of Elections. Mendez was also charged Thursday with six different crimes related to voter fraud. (Michael Jackson, Paterson’s incumbent 1st Ward city councilman and council vice president, was the fourth man charged yesterday. Jackson faces four counts related to voter fraud.)

In a legal complaint, the McKoy campaign is alleging outright fraud on behalf of the Mendez campaign. “At least one individual, YaYa Luis Mendez, has confessed to investigators working on behalf of the [New Jersey attorney general’s] office to having stolen ballots out of mailboxes, both completed and uncompleted, on behalf of and at the direction of the [Alex] Mendez campaign,” according to the complaint prepared by McKoy attorney Scott Salmon.

The attorney for Mendez, who leads in the vote count, isn’t disputing that the election results are unreliable. “This election is a sham, regardless of who are the ultimate victors, and this process has to be reviewed by the courts to address the deficiencies in the planning and execution of the election,” Gregg Paster, the attorney, is quoted as saying in Salmon’s complaint.

For his part, Paster alleges that the botched election has resulted in problems hurting Mendez’s chance of winning. On June 8, Paster sent a letter asking federal authorities to investigate voter intimidation on behalf of the Paterson’s mayor, Andre Sayegh, and local law enforcement.

 

A better question would be "why do democrats say there is no voter fraud and then hike up their skirts and run around screaming that Trump is going to benefit from the non existent voter fraud?".

 

He didn't see that one coming. You just depantsed him in the schoolyard.

 

Take me to court about what?

 

We have a FEC but elections are not federal matters here and never have been you'd have to amend the Constitution.

 

Will never pass the Congress or 3/4's of the states. WAY to vague. We already have the VRA what does this do different? The only right to vote is that you be treated EQUALLY with everyone else who is voting. What are you trying to fix here by have Congress take over all the state and local elections?