Why are Republicans so opposed to vote by mail?

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  1. pol meister

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    You need proof voting fraud happens? REALLY? Again why do you claim it has to organized and widespread to change the outcome of an election? Yea they got something to gain, their candidate wins.

    Just in the last 4 years of attempting to track, and you can go to the link and click on the map for state by state

    A Sampling of Recent Election Fraud Cases from Across the United States
    The Heritage Foundation’s Election Fraud Database presents a sampling of recent proven instances of election fraud from across the country. This database is not an exhaustive or comprehensive list. It does not capture all cases and certainly does not capture reported instances that are not investigated or prosecuted. It is intended to demonstrate the vulnerabilities in the election system and the many ways in which fraud is committed. In addition to diluting the votes of legitimate voters, fraud can have an impact in close elections, and we have many close elections in this country. Preventing, deterring, and prosecuting election fraud is essential to protecting the integrity of our voting process. Reforms intended to ensure such integrity do not disenfranchise voters and, in fact, protect their right to vote. Winning elections leads to political power and the incentives to take advantage of security vulnerabilities are great, so it is important that we take reasonable steps to make it hard to cheat, while making it easy for legitimate voters to vote.
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    https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud

    How many fraudulent votes does it take to change the outcome of an election?
     
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    I have a right to carry a firearm but to do so I have to get a CnC permit at the county courthouse or satellite office. If that is not an obsturction of my Constitutionally stated and protect right than having to go to the same office to get an ID if you for some strange reason do not have one so you can cast a vote.
     
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    Ha ha
    That’s hilarious. Are you going to commit voter fraud to give trump one more vote ? That’s a felony. If caught, you could lose your 2@ rights.
    Really. It’s another one of those conspiracy frauds foisted on a group of people Trump is an expert at taking advantage of.

    yes, we need proof.
     
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    You need an ID to register.
     
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    You need a permit. That means your right is not absolute. You have to qualify.
     
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    There is one set of rules, for EVERYONE. That's what 21stC non-racism looks like. Make peace with it. If you can't, you may want to consider moving to a less egalitarian place .. somewhere special allowances are made according to the particular tone of your skin. You know, like 1953.
     
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    LOL

    Dude, we all know exactly what you were suggesting.
     
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    The 'accommodation' is the SAME FOR EVERYONE.

    Anything else is horribly racist. Despicable, and regressive.
     
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    You absolutely suggested that people of colour can't manage a simple task. You said it out loud.
     
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    The Republican Party is a minority class ruling party for the rich.. The hilarious party about Trump is, he would not associate with any of the supporters he thinks less of. He does play on your fears.
    He’ll steal you blind and leave you sick and without HC. In the middle of a pandemic, he’s still pushing the SC to rule on preexisting conditions. Millions are losing their jobs and their healthcare with it as we speak. His answer to his own supporters, is a big ...skrew you.
     
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    Modern life, everywhere on planet earth - that's where.
     
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    It has nothing to do with color. It has to do with poorer people of any color. The working poor are skrewed . 40% have lost their jobs already during this gop lead pandemic/recession.
     
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    No it doesn’t. You can buy a gun in most states privately without an ID.
     
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    No clue what that has to do with the implicit racism of making allowances based on colour.
     
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    Who can't work without ID. Or rent a home. Or buy a car. Or obtain a drivers' license. Or do anything at all in the 21stC world.

    The ONLY equitable approach to voting is to be entirely neutral. Or do you want to go back to the 'favouring' of certain colours?
     
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    WTF?

    How about work, drive, rent or buy a house, join a club, go to school, open a bank account, etc etc etc?

    You're talking ridiculous extremes now, just to prop up this idea that brown people are incompetent.
     
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    It’s not about color. It’s about the disadvantaged, many of whom are people of color, while many are white. We make allowances for the people who are disadvantaged regardless of their skin color. All, except the gop who thinks the disengage find it just as easy to get to the polls. It is not.
     
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    What are you talking about. You can’t vote without registering, dah. You need an ID to register. Dah.

    When you join club ? I never needed a ID to join a golf club. I needed money. To get a loan you need an ID, after that to do any bank business, you just tell them an account number, verbally. The same with voting. You need an ID to register, after that, you just identify yourself By address verbally at most places. . Renting ? You need an ID to sign a lease or
    agreement. To make payments or lodge complains, you just verbally identify yourself by resident number again, even, over the phone. . It’s no different then voting. You guys are not really living in the real world. I have all sorts of contracts. None require any ID after the initial registration.
     
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    So why does our friend keep mentioning race/colour? That was his initial argument, though he's tried to back out of it since.
     
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    Are you on drugs, or drunk?
     
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    You seem to be. It was claimed you need an ID for everything when you really only need one to register. Same with voting. Got a problem. You must be on drugs thinking you need IDs all the time.
     
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    It doesn’t matter what was said. I’m injecting reality in here.
     
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    No, voting is not about the disadvantaged either.

    Voting is a qualified privilege that can only be exercised by the qualified voter. It seems surprising to me that you would be so misinformed on such a basic concept, but then again, it doesn't surprise me at all.
     

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