Why are we here?

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by Felicity, Aug 16, 2011.

  1. Felicity

    Felicity Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2010
    Messages:
    3,262
    Likes Received:
    42
    Trophy Points:
    48
    :bored: Theories are not facts--despite the recent attempts by some fanatical atheists who hate creationists who hate evolution would like one to think.

    I wish we all could just be honest, here.
     
  2. rstones199

    rstones199 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2009
    Messages:
    15,875
    Likes Received:
    106
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Yes, lets be honest here.
    A scientific theory is a theory based on evidence. Its like crime investigator piecing a crime together and coming up with a theory that is based on the evidence.

    What is creationism based on? Pure BULL(*)(*)(*)(*).

    So you if REALLY want to be honest here, try with your self first and see what a scientific theory really is.

    I know you wont, because you have blown your cover and are a creationist. This is why you ask “why are we here”. You HAVE to ask this question (even thou there doesn’t need to be a why) in order to keep creationism going. Otherwise creationism will simply collapse under its own stupidity. As I said before, philosophical nonsense is a waste. It leads to crap like creationism.

    PS: Evolution is a theory because the human understanding of how species evolve from one species to another. That it does happen is fact, just like if you drop a pen from your hand, it will drop to the ground. Human understanding of how this occurs (the pen dropping to the ground) may change, but the fact that it will happen won't.
     
  3. MuzzleBreak

    MuzzleBreak New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2011
    Messages:
    96
    Likes Received:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Any life that could come into existence that did not have some kind of encoding to "SURVIVE!" wouldn't last long.
     
  4. Felicity

    Felicity Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2010
    Messages:
    3,262
    Likes Received:
    42
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Interesting that you should have such an emotional outburst about this. I think that speaks volumes.

    In fact, I am not a so-called "creationist"--but it really doesn't matter to me what you think.
     
  5. Felicity

    Felicity Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2010
    Messages:
    3,262
    Likes Received:
    42
    Trophy Points:
    48
    What would make it disposed to survive past its own lifespan? Progeny is not a foregone conclusion or "survival" technique.
     
  6. SigTurner

    SigTurner New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2010
    Messages:
    1,093
    Likes Received:
    16
    Trophy Points:
    0
    To ask the question is to answer it.

    We are here to ask questions, and to find answers.

    Now, with that being said...


    Where the hell are my car keys?!?!




    ...every stinkin' time I'm running late for an important meeting this has to happen! Why? Why, dagnamit!...
     
  7. Incorporeal

    Incorporeal Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2009
    Messages:
    27,731
    Likes Received:
    62
    Trophy Points:
    48
    So now you admit that 'evolution' is still a 'theory'. What ever happened to the notion that evolution had been proven? If in FACT evolution had been proven, then you would have no reason to currently be declaring it to be a 'THEORY'.
     
  8. Bishadi

    Bishadi Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2010
    Messages:
    12,292
    Likes Received:
    52
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I am enjoying you holding the 'believers' in check. ie... 'how does gravity work?" Has always been the missing link. Hence to comprehend entanglement, then any can understand it.


    But on the other hand progeny is a survival technique, just like 'cell-division' is a survival technique. That is where the understanding of how 'energy' works is so important. The life is not so much the mass (elemental structures) as much as the energy upon that mass, is what is surviving. For example; you are of the 'life' of your parents. In reality, that scope is the fact not so much the conscious experience of your mass. Remember, when you sleep you are not conscious but still alive.

    Likewise, your parents and their parents and theirs and so forth did in fact contribute a part of themselves that is in fact, still alive. All the way to the point, that the spark of life, since even the first century is still alive in you, as you stand 'in the flesh'. So much so, that to comprehend that reality, they are raised in which what you do is 'their' life. So now to comprehend the old command; 'honor thy mother and father' can now be understood. In that what you do, you do for/to them. if you began a chain of life, that lives forever, they live in that contribution too.

    if you comprehend that, then the next time, you look into the mirror you can scream, 'we made it'.... you can be thankful to/for them and then go plant a tree in honor for all they lived and died for, for you to be here.

    Enable them an ever last, put out a bird feeder and feed them for the rest of your life and realize, then chicks nurtured over your life could have a chain that lives forever based on what you gave, contributed and the love of your parents all in ONE.

    Think on it and let up know how it sits with all your knowledge.

    'Why are we here?"

    To support life to continue!

    it is instinctive of our 'light' (to continue)


    Do the good, it's easy, and all by choice (once comprehended).

    Does it make sense, now?
     
  9. Felicity

    Felicity Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2010
    Messages:
    3,262
    Likes Received:
    42
    Trophy Points:
    48
    The keys are where you left them, of course! :mrgreen:
     
  10. Bishadi

    Bishadi Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2010
    Messages:
    12,292
    Likes Received:
    52
    Trophy Points:
    0
    you know more than jesus did, via knowledge. Does knowledge evolve over time?

    yes or no

    is has been 'proven' but like gravity and god, few know 'how' it works.

    i mean, you dont believe in god, you believe in what people wrote about god.

    you dont believe in gravity but know the earth revolves around the sun.

    you know you comprehend far more than jesus but do not believe you are capable.

    The problem with you is not comprehending it is your integrity to truth that keeps your mind from sustaining the command of no false witnessing and maintaining honesty over selfish pride.

    all god(s) are theoretical unless proven to exist. All beliefs of god creating anything are simply theories and never yet once proven.

    Does it bug you that your beliefs are bound to stupid theories and completely unproven?


    .
     
  11. Felicity

    Felicity Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2010
    Messages:
    3,262
    Likes Received:
    42
    Trophy Points:
    48
    I'm talking to the fanatical science-worshiping atheists on one level and you (and others who see the larger/broader picture) on another. ;)

    So--on the strictly literal level, progeny does nothing to extend the life of the organism reproducing, and in fact, often contributes to the death of the organism.

    Why would reproduction even begin to develop?
     
  12. Incorporeal

    Incorporeal Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2009
    Messages:
    27,731
    Likes Received:
    62
    Trophy Points:
    48
    It is not a yes or no question. There are variables that you are not giving consideration to. BUT I DO KNOW THAT YOU ADMITTED THAT EVOLUTION (as you have been discussing with others) IS JUST A THEORY. That is good enough for me..... Epic fail on your part.
     
  13. Bishadi

    Bishadi Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2010
    Messages:
    12,292
    Likes Received:
    52
    Trophy Points:
    0
    i can see the face value of that but go back to that bigger picture.

    if the last polar bear couple procreate, does the species survive another generation?

    If you make a child and hit by a truck tomorrow a part of you is still with us.

    Often people can see their parents in the mirror.

    i am a bishadi and my grandfather is still alive because i am here not only in namesake but also, literally. ie..... his life (spark) is within ME (alive and in the flesh)

    true or false

    be fair
     
  14. Felicity

    Felicity Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2010
    Messages:
    3,262
    Likes Received:
    42
    Trophy Points:
    48
    I believe all of that to be true.

    I believe I am--I believe there is the larger picture of which you are speaking, but then, there is also the larger picture that considers life a magnificent accident without that inter-relatedness that permeates.


    Yes--WHY would such a thing begin, let alone evolve successfully, without the inter-relatedness of beings?

    That's an interesting point.

    Well, yeah...but wayyyyyy back, there really is no reason that such a category of plankton WOULD develop because reproduction is pointless in a closed and sterile environment.
     

Share This Page