Why Are We So Angry And Bitter Does The World Seem Angrier To You

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  1. S L H

    S L H New Member

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    Doesnt really matter I am patiently waiting for the day when the whole shebang finally collapses then we can start over from scratch and hopefully we dont screw it up this time around.
     
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    I read that sort of thing from time to time, and it's always puzzled me. How does that work then, by magic? One day everyone sort of agrees that things just aren't working out and so everything peacefully grinds to a halt and yet somehow animals still get raised, slaughtered, and their carcasses processed. Farmers still farm -- for free? So anyway, food still gets to the towns and cities and grocery stores operated . . . according to what?

    Socialistic principles? Communism? The wiccans come up with some new and fancy way of making things work? So forth and so on. Can you say mass murder, starvation, brutality beyond imagining . . . and then some former friend of a nation coming in to 'straighten things out for us' and then never leaving and -- somehow -- things are never ever as 'good' again as when some people were lamenting how BAD things were with their cell phones and privately owned automobiles and good food, and access to all sorts of entertainment and such.

    Go figure.
     
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    Not really worried about it I got plenty of supplies stockpiled and a nice little hideout with water and plenty of game to shoot and I will wait it out comfortably while the rest of you kill eachother off for what remains have fun.
     
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    And then you trip over a branch, fall down a ravine, and slowly die of dehydration and starvation because your hip was broken . . . Survivalists are cute, because in reality . . . reality usually happens; eventually anyway.
     
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    Ive hiked the Appalachian trail from Springer all the way to Nantahala and later the New York and Connecticut sections

    I would like to actually THRU HIKE the AT someday but I will probably be TOO OLD when the time and money actually exists.

    Think I could handle my own just fine and if I were to die well SO BE IT
     
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    Pasithea Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    I already went to school for dental assisting and am $10K in debt to the government for loans. I'd rather not go back to school for another career I have no guarantee of finding a job in and scrounge up $40K debt in the process.

    So I am settling for retail, the ONLY place that would hire me out of all the places I applied to (yes, plenty of dental assisting applications were sent out and plenty of interviews were had) and writing my novel on the side.
     
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    Yeah Ive been down that path a few times myself even with education and credentials most companies still prefer to hire EXPIRIENCED versus just out of school even with a degree finding that FIRST JOB can be like PULLING TEETH.

    Its like how do you get experience if nobody will hire you but conservatives are so detached from reality that they dont even know the first thing about living in tye REAL WORLD no all conservatives got is delusions of the way things used to be but never actually were the way they preach.
     
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    It's still meaningless when someone who brags about being able to live without civilization decries civilization. What then is the point?
     
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    Pasithea Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    Yup, it's a real catch 22 and that's pretty much what happened. "Oh, well we're looking for someone with more experience." Well then why the hell did you waste both our times by holding an interview? My resume makes it damn clear I'm fresh outta school so uuuuuhhhhhhhh....derp derpidy derp?

    I mean really. It was just getting stupid. And living on your own requires moolah, so had to find a job quick and found one in retail. Been working the same job for two years now. There is absolutely no way a dentist will hire me two years out of school with no experience, unless I can find one who is willing to put up with heavily retraining me from scratch. It just feels like such a waste of time and money which is sad because I busted my butt in school and got out with a 3.8 GPA.
     
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    Well too bad its your own (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) fault so take your lot in life and DEAL WITH IT and you just pull yourself up by your bootstraps and with hardwork and determination someday youll make it and if you dont well youre just lazy then.....
     
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    Pasithea Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    lol Man, if somebody said this to me with a serious face, I'd probably have to slap them.
     
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    Well civilization is pretty much down the toilet as it is most Americans are fat, lazy, and ignorant not exactly a glimmer of hope there.
     
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    Wrong, Gate wood. You've got a liberal talking about hiding out in his bunker with his guns: just enjoy that irony. :)
     
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    My brothers wife is a dental assistant - it pays really well, even though she had hours cut (I think she's at 32 now), it still pays well. But from what I understand that's not in particularly high demand. I'd suggest widening your search if its the same job she has (I think it is) its valuable, and not exactly common, so you're bound to find an opening somewhere that will pay you more than you and your fiancee combined make in retail. If you're willing to move. That's a hard part of it that economically holds a lot of people back. My brothers wife could have gotten a job elsewhere with better pay and more hours, but they wanted to stay where they are. That's a choice you (and I suppose your fiancee) will have to make, but you can't just be angry at the world for that. I assume that you've got values and money isn't near the top, and that's good - but its a value choice with obvious consequences.

    The reason why I mentioned nursing is because its in very high demand and the demand is increasing, AND the pay is good. If you get the cert, you're basically guaranteed a job. Taking 40k debt and doubling your income (or more) while gaining real job security isn't a bad move.
     
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    Haha! I thought that something was getting a bit surrealistic there!
     
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    My politics has no bearing on my willingness to be PREPARED infact I just noticed this place has a SURVIVALIST SECTION and I plan on posting a great deal down there.

    The world is on the BRINK we could have the big financial meltdown, nuclear disaster, even a solar flare that knocks down the grid and takes us back to the 18th century literally overnight.

    I implore you to do some reading and suggest you make a plans for you and your family just in case.
     
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    When I began working (pretty much at the bottom) the company I worked for was locally owned. None of us appreciated or even knew the owner by face. He did check up on the place, but kept a very low profile. Meanwhile he supported bonuses for for frontline workers based on productivity, gave paid vacations after one year of employment, quarterly raises, and gave a bonus the first week of december equal to one weeks average pay to everyone (excepting workers who had started less than 3 mo's prior) . He did not go bankrupt, but retired well and sold the business at a profit several years after I moved on.

    I do not think this kind of relationship is found anymore between owners and employees. Technology has created a false impression that all work is easy and that people should be able to match up to the productivity promised by it. Owners are seldom local and they are much less likely to be connected to the community. This kind of disconnection leads to all sorts of misunderstanding, paranoia and unrealistic expectations. The result is managers who do not understand their jobs and are forced to see lower employees primarily as expenses or risk factors. The actual work to be done takes second place to employee retention and conflict resolution, and the workers who do their jobs with little complaint have almost no indication that they are appreciated. Which leads to lower productivity and job satisfaction, which leads to more pressure from absent owners, which leads to hostile management, which leads to..... a vicious circle.

    Add to this the pressure of a consumer culture where money and possessions are the primary values, drastic changes in economy, and the continuing breakdown of traditional social roles and expectations and yea, we get a lot of angry people.
     
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    Moving is not a big deal either. I've already moved several times over the past few years. It's just when you're a renter you also get stuck in a year lease and it's costly to break that lease.

    I have actually looked into nursing. It requires at least 4 more years of schooling for me (general education with strong focus on my worst subjects Math and Science) and then nursing school after that, and there is actually a huge wait for people trying to get in to Nursing school - you also have to do extremely well in your Biology classes to get in. It's a rough ride through school for all that. It's why I opted for a year long vocational degree, because going to school was never my strong suit (I also went for that instead of continuing my education in art and literature because my father put a lot of pressure on me to choose a healthcare degree, I guess he figured I'd be making buttloads of money).

    Yes, I am pretty mad and bitter about it (I literally try not to think about because it makes me cry, I'm very emotional)... It makes me feel like a failure and it upsets me that I was steered away from what I really wanted to do with my life and my passions (art and literature). I have considered going back for what I really want though even if it's one or two classes at a time or classes online in between working. I also want to write and illustrate a children's book in my free time and see where that takes me.
     
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    Pasithea Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    This is all too true as I have seen it first hand in the big business of retail.

    I always laugh at people who reminisce about this perfect 1950s world straight out of the television, but then I think about the old corner stores and little shops that dotted local neighborhoods and how everyone was friendly and knew each other and the owners of these little stores knew the townspeople and worked directly with their employees. I think how that would be nice if it were real. You're hard pressed to find businesses or even whole communities like that anymore. Hah, actually the only one I can think of is a local Smoke Shop and Hookah Lounge in our area called the Coughing Canary. The owners, a husband and wife, work on the premises with their employees regularly and they're really nice.
     

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