Why aren't feminists complaining that there aren't enough female garbage collectors

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes you are old. I know due to your comments. OLD also contains WISE.

    I recall the days of the wife needing her husbands permission and like you, I got angry.

    If you look at 100 percent of all women, only a minor percent can handle the heavy tasks and get the same lack of pity given to the men who do those tasks and get called weaking if they can't perform.

    If the general rule was women must lift the same amount of weight for physical jobs as men lift, one can see who is less capable in many cases, not all cases, just many as to the power of the two people.

    But ask a man to bear a child. That a man most likely would almost never be able to endure as to the final struggle of birth, not the actual act itself.

    Women often are much better nurses than the typical man is. I have had women doctors who were very good.

    I have this story. I sold a brand new custom home to a young couple. He was in college at San Jose State University. He later graduated and became the company controller of an electronics firm. For years, the woman was accepted as the superior teacher of children. Above high school age and then men kicked in better. The couple though, i got off track again. She was depreived of the use of her entire income. This was patently wrong. The story though is what happened to them. I had to go explain to them the lender required them to shed the legal libiality of the car they owned. To get the payments out of their name. Worse was her burden. She was told to agree to a written commitment not to have more children. This caused me to hit the roof. I gave the lender a large piece of my wrath. I was angry. My anger showed when i told them they had to agree to no more children. There is more but it ended up that both her and his parents had to also sign up for the ownership of the home plus be on the loan. I had urged him to back down from the new home i sold to him and allow me to replace it with one he could use his VA loan on and then all that mickey mouse nonsense would end immediately. They wanted just the new home. It has been since 1971 for me but I believe this is the home I sold to them when it was new.

    https://www.google.com/maps/@37.531...&w=96&h=64&yaw=312.12155&pitch=0&thumbfov=100


    I try not to keep being angry at the past.

    I try to realize that Trump performs a task and is not a ruler. I try to realize that Trump was not hired to solve the world's problems, just move the ball a bit further down the field than his predecessor did.
     
  2. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have often wondered among the elderly women if they believe the large pecker is needed?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What level of school did you teach?
     
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    doombug Well-Known Member

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    Ladies first.....
     
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    Renee Well-Known Member

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    Bet their hands are sore too:applause:
    I remember a funny story. We were eating lunch in school and all the teachers were around the table. The guys were bragging that it’s not the size but it’s the motion etc. All the women turned around and almost in unison said, “oh no guys it’s the size” and how can guys argue with women. It was more of a joke. I have often wondered among elderly men if they think a pecker is needed at all LOL
     
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    I knew you couldn’t do it ...lol
     
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    Renee Well-Known Member

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    Middle school...and now I do prejudice workshops with high schoolers. And keynote on my book for teachers...but I’m winding down
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't think this discussion will end up satisfactory to the ladies. Thanks for your analysis in the form of a joke.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I do not recall such a class when I was in high school. When picking at a sore, often the sore does not improve.
     
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    They should be what with all the beans to hull and can..A pecker does help to pee..
     
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  11. Renee

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    I developed the curriculum in New York City. It was an elective..now I do it mostly with teachers That’s a very interesting thing you said when picking out a sore often it does not improve. I am trying to understand what you mean. I hope your analogy is not saying that the sore is prejudice
     
  12. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am saying, often a job is created that while some take it, it does not mean it truly is vital to humans. I took many courses devoted to real estate. I have had some truly great teachers. But I do not propose all take those same courses. I was an appraiser. It takes a number of years to convert a person not understanding this to a true expert. I trained such men and women. I trained one appraiser who also taught school. She holds two master degrees. She was my student.

    Picking the sore means setting down students to lecture them as were they the problem and they must be lectured to so they A. saw they were the problem B. Believed you held the cure C. Believed you could teach them the cure and D. Knowing your cure would change the world.

    It frustrates humans to learn they truly are weaker than they believe they are. That is my belief.
     
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    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well .......
    Well .....
    Feminists do not want equality. They just "want".
    Exactly:

    1). Women's liberation works for equality.
    2). Feminist work for supremacy handed to them without the sweat so they can bitch, get fat, tattooed, pierced, and sit on the sofa the live-long day, masturbating.
     
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    Something I also taught my students and you illustrated it beautifully. Do not pass judgment without knowing what you are passing judgment on. You have no idea what my course was about but you are judging it. They had to do a lot of research and reading and it was hardly one view.
     
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    Renee Well-Known Member

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    Poor white oppressed male...
    Instead of whining about women why don’t men stop bitching, getting fat tattooed and pierced while sitting on the sofa all day masturbating..and farting and drinking beer while women make gains they can’t achieve :wall:
     
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    Trolololololololololololololo.
     
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    Yeah? Who "expected" them? Yes yes western women have it so bad.

    You don't seem to be concerned that 98.6% of plumbers are men. I wonder why.
     
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    I am not oppressed: My wife is from the east. We do not compete with one another. We share life and pull our resources together.
    I don't whine about women, my wife and I share our criticism of Western women without whining.
    I don't bitch, not fat, no tattoos, not pierced and I almost never sit on the sofa. I am retired and i have much to do.
    I don't drink beer. One glass of wine with my evening meal is all.
    My wife achieves everything she wants to achieve and she has my full support.

    The problem (yours) is that you do not understand the difference between observation and bitching. I guess my previous response hit a nerve? Was there too much of it that is "close to home" for you? Yes, I guess if you are a feminist ........ my post must have stung badly.
     
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    Lupus in fabula.
     
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    Isn't that exactly where your expertise lies and exactly what you teach?

    In what kind of Wonderland is that you live in where that sort of thing ever happens? And what does that even mean?

    Many young men are genuinely afraid of being mugged or beaten up.

    Most law-abading citizens trust the cops and do not feel fear at the sight of a cop, but rather saftey or just nothing at all.

    Everyone is. Constantly. This will never change.
     
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    Oh, that's just hysterical. You do realize you have spent a good 75% of this thread passing judgement on other posters, and then to put that up there. Seriously, much laughter from that.

    Why can't you accept the fact that YOU are doing the best that you can, have reached your goals, and that other people are doing the same for themselves? You are not something special, nor to be feared. You are no better than anyone else here, but apparently, you have the need to think you have exceeded anyone else here.
     
  22. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why do you return my comments with what i view is an insult? The insult is you decided my motives and essentially ripped me for my explanation to you.

    When you ask questions, i am not replying to get told off for my explanation.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, I noticed it as well. I was not giving her my reply to cause her distress.
     
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    I spent my youth working on pile drivers. It was and is a dangerous job. I started in 1958 and ended my career in 1967 on a Freeway bridge on Freeway 280 behind Redwood City. (save for a later 1 month return to it at Richmond Standard Oil refinery)

    Women were not on the job. I was a strong young man. My coworkers were as well. Women in my opinion could not have performed our jobs. I don't doubt that in this world, a few women could have done our job at our side, but why not speak of normal women and not the exception to the rule.

    Later during a bad time selling real estate, i did call one of my former bosses and he agreed to hire me back on his jobs. On one pile driving job I did see a woman working as a pilebutt. The job foreman never gave her any of the difficult hard to do tasks. He had we men do those jobs. She handled some papers. Even when a woman is made a pile driver worker, she seems to escape the dangerous part or difficult to do part. She was not complaining she had it easy.
     
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    Why would I be concerned? I would be concerned if they didn’t allow women. I don’t know any people who want their daughters to aspire to be plumbers...but if that’s what they want, that’s fine. It pays well
     

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