Why did black people vote for Biden and not Sanders?

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Why did Black people choose Biden over Sanders?

  1. Jim Clyborns endorsement

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  2. Obama association

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  3. Bidens record on civil rights

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  4. The media favoring Biden

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  5. Biden being the "safe" choice

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  6. Other

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  1. TurnerAshby

    TurnerAshby Well-Known Member

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    Biden did great on super Thursday largely because of the black vote and that makes me ask the question, why?

    Let's do some comparison between Biden and Sanders on their history with the black community

    Sanders was arrested in 1963 protesting against segregation in Chicago

    Biden has falsely claim he march marched and also claimed falsely he was arrested in Africa

    Biden wrote the 1994 crime bill that negatively affected black males

    Biden also championed working with Strom Thurmond

    Biden was also in favor of bussing.


    What about Bidens record made black people say "you know what I like Strom Thurmond too" ? Was it Jim Clyborns endorsement? Or just because he was in the Obama administration?

    What's your take?
     
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    The black community recognize the policies of Bernie Sanders will cause them more harm than good, because the policies will attract more illegal aliens that will ultimately marginalize them. The black community is already being largely ignored in favor of catering to illegal aliens from south of the united states border, who are being provided with goods and/or services that were intended for the black community.
     
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    TurnerAshby Well-Known Member

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    So basically Biden is a comfort blanket? But that blanket is giving them more of the same that causes them to march and protest

    Ok but how do they ignore all his past behavior towards them?

    As far as illegals that may be the case as the divide between Latino and black voting was Stark this time. If that is infact the case won't there eventually be a tipping point where those two minority groups can't be under one umbrella?
     
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    One Mind Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Several things. Biden served under Obama . Older blacks dont know what their best economic self intetests are . They dont know govt according to the Princeton study doesnt represent anyone but the elites including the party of Obama and Biden .

    The endorsement of the SC black politician also was a factor .

    Southern blacks the older demo would have voted for any black even if he was a democratic socialist imo . But like many whites dont know what their best economic self interests are.
     
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    Same reason most of them have voted establishment Democrat since FDR. Some reason a lot of Caucasians vote establishment Democrat. It's bwho their parents and grad parents voted for. Bad habits tend not only to be hard to break, their effects can be multigenerational.
     
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    TurnerAshby Well-Known Member

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    Appreciate the feedback...

    So let's just say you could only point to one of the factors you listed, which do you think is the biggest?
     
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    If that's the case, and you may be right, what does that tell you about our average citizen or just the average person in general?

    Because if I take your theory as fact I don't have alot of hope.

    Your theory sounds like people base decisions on instinctual feelings rather than using critical thinking.
     
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    I have no idea... But somehow, and this is only a guess, blacks want people to work and earn their way through life. And they don't want anyone getting freebies, unlike what Sanders wants.

    The black people got a taste for work, thanks to Trump, and don't want things changing too much in the policy arena. Just a thought.
     
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    If that was the case wouldn't they just vote Republican?

    Biden is going to change things quite a bit from Trump if elected because if he wins he'll get to appoint atleast 1 supreme court justice....
     
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    Not to depress you further but bad habits are learned at momma and daddy's knee it isn't instinctual. It becomes after a time cultural and traditional. It's like the Dem well worn and much over used race card. They just can't help themselves. A few do break away after a while but it takes a tremendously strong person intellectually philosophically and morally to brake such bonds and most people just aren't willing to go to that much trouble.
     
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    Because Sanders is more of a nut case then Biden?
     
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    Joe Biden the guy who said 150 million people died from gun violence? Or said he was running for Senate and if they didn't like him vote for the other Biden?

    He's less of a nutcase? Seems very debatable
     
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    "Not to depress you further....."

    Well you did lol jk, thanks for the input
     
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    So you don't think Sanders is a nut case? I don't think Joe is nuts, he's just happily not there part of the time.
     
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    I mean is that better??? Lol

    Seems like a best those two are on equal footing
     
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    I truly wish the Democrats had offered up a candidate that at least stood a chance, though we may yet be surprised how many anyone-but-Trump voters didn't bother with the primaries, knowing that they would vote the default.

    I'll take whatever happens, and make the best of it as I have before.
     
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    Such has not stopped them from voting for the same candidates over and over, who pay them lip service when it comes time to voting but do nothing afterwards, leaving them forgotten about until the next election cycle roles around.

    Lack of education, and unwillingness to do anything that would result in them losing the benefits they have come to depend on.

    The liberal democrat party claims to represent a great many parties that do not and cannot coexist with one another, such as the homosexual community and those who are members of the islamic faith, which is known for putting homosexuals to death. Or women and transsexual individuals who are invading sports and facilities intended exclusively for women.
     
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    So if your a republican strategist a key take away for defeating a democrat is to play on those divisions right?
     
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    I would think the primary one is the first one.

    And as I said this isnt limited to just black Americans in the older demographic. I think the people who voted for Fdr clearly understood their best self interests and chose the president that would best serve working Americans. The people who voted for trump voted to serve their best economic self interests just assanders s voters are voting in their self interests economically. The people who vote for a corporate Dem like Biden are clueless unless they are upper middle class or upper class The people at the top get represented but not the average dem who votes for dems like Biden Or Obama for that matter. .
     
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    I think I agree with your ideas but it's a scary thought to me atleast so I was hoping there was some other logical reason that wasn't as scary to me.

    I also agree with the notion it's not limited to just black people but this question was a burning one to me that I've not seen much meaningful discussion.

    So if we take your theory is fact, what do we do to combat that in a meaningful way in your opinion?
     
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    Good grief, most working age black people have always been working.

     
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    Blacks associate Biden with Obama, and the black community worships Obama.
     
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    You have to ask black voters and of course the answers will be varied but I believe the main reason is that they believe he has the best chance of beating Trump. In my family, it has been a mix. Two close relatives voted for Sanders. One voted for Biden. I voted for Warren but will vote for Biden when he becomes the nominee. My mother who is elderly will vote for Trump. She thinks he's been bringing jobs back to Detroit. So, those are real time results from five black voters.

     
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    Why would she think something that ridiculously realistic? She must be brainwashed by Fox News to believe reality.



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    Negatively affected them for nothing? Or because they were criminals? Blacks understand that putting criminal members of their community behind bars had nothing but a POSITIVE effect on their community.

    What do you mean by "championed?" Biden just said that he worked with him didn't he? Working with the enemy is just a reality of politics.

    So was Kamala Harris and a large segment of the black community.

    That black people are not idiots. Most don't have a problem with anything that you've raised.
     

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