Why do gays make their sexuality an issue?

Why not just live your own lives and have sex with whoever you want to have it with, instead of clamor for unnecessary attention with gay groups, gay pride rallies, and constant accusations of homophobia? Why not just live and let live - most people wouldn't even care about your sexuality if you didn't flaunt it every chance you get and try to make it an issue.

 

give them equal rights, and what would they have to fight for.... think about it

homophobes are the ones making it an issue and keeping it an issue

don't see many demanding rights for inter-racial marriage now that it legal, same would be true of same sex marriage

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We haven't forgotten that just 9 years ago doing so could lead to prosecution, with a conviction resulting in hefty fines or jail time (depending on where one lived).

Nor have we failed to notice that people are continuing to make an issue of it, some of them advocating recriminalization, and that some of these would like to see it punishable by death.

Here's a thought: If it wasn't an issue to you, then this thread wouldn't exist.

Not going to shut up just because you wish it would go away.

Silence = Death.

When dominionists decide to keep their faith in their church and personal lives where it belongs and out of mine, I'll consider being less vocal.

 

You mean like these rallies:





You say you do not care about our sexuality but yet I am denied donating blood, until recently I was denied entry into the Military to protect MY county, I am denied from my partners health insurance, I am denied the right to be treated equally.

It has nothing to do with how we have sex, some gay people are celibate, it has to do with our rights to be happy - with the person we love.

I do not like PDA but I see it daily by heterosexuals "flaunting" their sexuality.

YOU MAKE IT AN ISSUE

 

Women and blacks can't choose their gender or skin color, but gays can choose whether or not to be in a same-sex relationship, so they are only denied rights if they choose the latter - it's not a civil rights issue then.

And serving in the military was allowed as long as you don't openly identify as gay, which is also a choice. So gays are denied rights based on their behavior, not based on "who they are" like blacks or women were.

 

"So gays are denied rights based on their behavior, not based on "who they are" like blacks or women were."

and inter-racial couples could choose to not be in inter-racial relationships too I suppose one could say.... does that mean inter-racial couples were only being denied for their "behavior" too?

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Regarding the OP.

I don't see why this is hard to understand. They want to make things better for their lifestyle. Can you understand why people that love smoking weed want to make weed legal? Can you nderstand why people that smoke regular cigs would want to be able to do it indoors instead of how under current laws they ahve to go freeze outside in many places?

If so, this shouldn't be very hard for you to figure out.

Ok, that's ridiculous. That has nothing to do with homophobia. It's like saying the red cross is racist because they don't allow donations if you've recently lived in certain areas with Africa (in that case it's because of a high risk of malaria).

 

Because the Gay Mafia instructs us to do so....and defying the Gay Mafia can be very, very ugly.

Now on a more serious note!

This reply is intended for anyone who wanders in and sincerely wants and answer to the OP question....and has enough guts, decency, honesty and willingness to actually entertain an idea that might be contrary to their own.

Shortest answer I can come up with is, I don't like feeling like a liar.

I don't like referring to my Sweetie as "My roommate" or "my friend".

I determined years ago that I would not actively live a life of deception and if my GF and I are walking into a grocery store and happen to feel like holding hands, then that's what we're gonna do.
I don't make decisions like this hoping "oooooh, this will really tweak someone off!", I honestly don't spend loads and loads of time trying to figure out ways to irritate strangers.


It's important to me that people realize they know someone that's gay.

No, not to the extent that I go tell random strangers.

My Sweetie and I live a pretty mundane life and the more often someone realizes "oh. They're not that different after all", I believe it goes a long way toward a more accurate understanding of what I'd guess most gay people are like.

 

You have missed the point entirely.

In reply...why are gays denied their equal rights?

If it's not a big deal why are people actively fighting to push gays and lesbians into second class citizenship?

 

Really, that is all which needs to be said.

 

What is "the Gay Mafia"?

 

That is nothing but your irrational animus (semi-veiled) being expressed above.

Please, check YOURSELF.

 

I doubt that you are going to convince the interlocutor you were responding directly to... but thank God for your commentary, as others with more sound thinking will come through and read what you've said.

Keep it up!

 

It was a joke.
People seem so convinced one exists, I enjoy playing into their paranoia.
Out of curiosity, is that why you "disliked" my post?

If it is, did you read any further than the first part?

 

Oops, I should have read further.

Good admonition.

Very honorable, indeed.

I don't blame you. No one should have to live in some closet, created by maladjusted homophobes or bigots.

Some people may not like it; but it is okay with me. (Just be ready to physically defend yourself against 'some' people. There is much misguided hostility in this society.)

But (for now) many people in America are CONDITIONED to be negative about and even violent toward homosexual people. Watch your back; be ready to defend yourself.

Well, I don't broadcast that so much as a man, because it invites more hostility (for now) than it is worth. I'll hang out with a gay friend in public, but most affections expressed, will be disguised as being close friends. Acceptance of homosexuals is changing with the latest generation and that is good. But the Baby Boomers and some of their kids... are often indoctrinated in such a way as to be hostile to homosexual people.

I don't do that either.

You are correct. It isn't so easy for gay males though. The problem is, that some people associate being a gay man with "weakness"; and that, among other things... makes you a target for trouble-making or violent IDIOTS. Trust me, the WORST are those conflicted, self-hating, closeted gay men. So many have not dealt with their own internal conflicts; they COVER their insecurities by bashing homosexuals; sometimes it's religion, other times it's direct violence. I've seen it a few times.

 

Oh I have no doubt that gay men have a harder time socially than lesbians do.

I contribute this to what I call the "Ick factor"

So many straight men seem to just love the very idea of lesbians, that we seem to get a 'pass' from them.
Lots of straight women just don't care, (except the few who are of course convinced that simply b/c they are a woman, clearly I want them. Or get offended when I don't.)

But it seems like (some) people, when confronted with the thought of a male gay couple, just immediately jump to the sex part and go "ewwww! Gay men having sex with each other!"

I've tried for years to tell people...."well stop thinking about the sex then! Do you sit around and think about your straight friends/co-workers sex lives?"

Some people actually get the connection and it's fun watching a light bulb reaction.

 

They define their very existance by their sexuality. Some kind of psychological obsession I suspect

 

They were denied rights based upon the color of their skin. Gay couples are denied marriage because of the impossibility of procreation. Interracial couples were denied rights because the laws at the time made it illegal for a man to even cohabitate with a woman unless he was married to her. There were no such laws for two people of the same sex living together

 

How exactly does denying them the tax breaks and governmental entitlements of marriage that have never been available to them before, pushing them into second class citizenship? I cant marry my brother. Have we been pushed into second class citizenship, or is this another of the special rules for gays because they are so special?

 

Nobody is stopping gays from being gay. Absurd to equate peoples freedom to do as they choose with the gays demand for tax breaks and governmental entitlements of marriage.

 

Looking for happiness by demanding the tax breaks and governmental entitlements of marriage??? I feel for your sadness, but you wont find the happiness you seek in tax breaks and governmental entitlements. You are looking for others to endorse YOUR relationship so that YOU can feel better about it.

 

Nonsense. It is the gays who are insisting that they be given the tax breaks and governmental entitlements of marriage. Making it an issue. Most people probably couldnt care less about their sexuality and it is only when they start demanding that government endorse their sexuality that it becomes an issue.

 

Procreation is irrelevant, since it's not a requirement of marriage. that's why heterosexual couples who also have an impossibility to procreate can marry.

it's not about procreation.

 

those may be your reasons for marriage, to some it means more then that

 

No, they are the laws reasons. I have no reasons for marriage as I have no interest whatsoever in marrying my girlfriend or any woman i have relations with in the future. Two separate issues. Why individuals choose to marry and why government chooses to license and regulate the relationship.