Why DO we want to fill America with non-whites?

Discussion in 'Race Relations' started by Anyman, Jul 28, 2014.

  1. rayznack

    rayznack Well-Known Member

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    Considering you're not making an argument on statistical distribution on beauty - or anything else - how is cherry-picking examples supposed to support an argument per the thread that is inherently based on statistics?
     
  2. rayznack

    rayznack Well-Known Member

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    I don't see how anyone could be remotely attracted to the thing inhabiting the image you posted.

    Anyway, how do idiotic scenarios of deserted islands address the OP?
     
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    The same opportunities would mean immigrants wouldn't have access to means tested government programs as they didn't exist when my ancestors came here.

    If that's what you mean, then I totally agree. Just as 1/3 of Europeans emigrated from the US after arrival because they couldn't succeed, I fully support immigrants today experiencing the same 'opportunities'.
     
  4. rayznack

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    We'll also trim our high IQ population as certain racial groups have higher IQ than others.

    As it happens, 'brown' skinned people tend to be of races with significantly lower IQ than Whites and East Asians.
     
  5. DarkDaimon

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    Well hell, if the real concern is that people with low IQs dropping the national average through interbreeding, then stopping the races from mixing is not the answer since even among the "brown" races, there are doctors and scientists and we may lose those genes. No, the real answer is mandatory IQ tests and whoever scores below a 85 is banned from having babies. Of course as a side effect, this would reduce the number of racists, so I guess it wouldn't be a bad thing.
     
  6. rayznack

    rayznack Well-Known Member

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    Yes, indeed.

    Low IQ morons ignorant of how regression toward the mean is different for Blacks than Whites.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/race-relations/348538-regression-toward-mean-race-iq.html
     
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    So what the quote you gave is saying that, statistically, children of arbitrary groups tend to have an IQs closer to the mean of the group instead of the parents. Well duh, that's statistics 101. Anytime you have random elements, the outcome tends to be toward the mean. So yes, if two smart people have kids (and intelligence is indeed inheritable) then those kids are most likely going to be less intelligent than their parents, however what the quote doesn't mention is that those kids are still going to be more intelligent than the average population. Now, according to a quick search online, the supposed difference in average IQ between whites and blacks is 15 points and according to the census, 13.3% of the US population is black. This means that if every black person had a child with a white person (and assuming that IQ was inheritable), the national IQ average would drop about 2 points and since IQ itself is based on average intelligence (an IQ of 100 is equal the mean of the population) then the IQ would remain unchanged.
     
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    No; the quote didn't say whether children have IQ's closer to the mean of their racial groups - which are not arbitrary - compared to their parents; that conclusion depends what the actual IQ gap between the parents and their race is. What the writer actually said was that children are statistically most likely to have an IQ between their parents and the race to which they belong.

    I suggest you learn to read, and gain a basic understanding of statistics.


    Clearly you've never taken.



    The national IQ would drop if Whites and Blacks produced offspring, but the IQ would remain unchanged?

    Yeah, I can tell you're not the sharpest tool in the shed. IQ is annually standardized based off the White populations in the US and UK. The national IQ would indeed drop based off your scenario, but the standardization of IQ would remain unaffected, as mulatto's wouldn't be included in IQ standardization. Additionally, even if mulattos were involved, the IQ of 100 would be lower from previous IQ standardizations.
     
  9. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    IQ correlates negatively with overall success in life. This is only with higher IQs and the correlation is slight to the point of insignificance but it's still the only correlation there is. If you're so damned smart, that may be why you're not rich.
     
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    Ok, I did say that wrong. That's what I get for being in a hurry and not proof-reading, but the point I was trying to make is that even though those kids may not be as smart as their parents, they will still be above the average.


    As I said, IQ is based on the median of the population so it is a moving target. If everyone became dumber or smarter, the median would change.

    I searched a while on the web and have seen no mention that IQ tests are only based off of the white population. Please provide a link that shows this. I do have a question though, How much black do you need in you to be considered mulatto? 50%? 25%? 10%? .0001%?
    And yes, if the average IQ was lower for blacks than whites and IQ was passed down through genetics, then the raw IQ scores would end up being about 2 points lower which is pretty close to being insignificant, which brings me to my original point that if you really want to make a difference in the overall intelligence, it would be more efficient to have everyone take an IQ test and sterilize anyone whose IQ is less than 85.
     
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    I'm well aware how IQ is normalized; if you bothered to read what I wrote, I fully explained the process but also mentioned that your hypothetical scenario would be irrelevant due to obvious reasons; and that IQ drops would be found by comparing mean scores with previous years. Duh.

    The average IQ for whites is set at 100 against which other other racial IQ's are compared; it is how Black scores are monitored for change.

    I would add that IQ is normalized annually by the test scores of Whites from the UK and US, but cannot find that source, so I will not further insist that is how IQ is set.
     
  12. mikemikev

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    "I prefer White women."
    "So would you prefer to (*)(*)(*)(*) a dead White woman? Haha, Black women are superior!"

    Huh?
     
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    You are correct and IQ is normalised on British Whites. I can find the sources if you want.
     
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    People often assume that IQ is a measure of intrinsic intelligence...and it's not. It also measures knowledge (and maybe mostly measures knowledge, since knowledge can have a major impact on problem solving). Education and experience can affect IQ scores, sometimes dramatically.

    So IQ should not even be introduced to a race debate unless both races have similar educational and economic backgrounds.
     
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    The women (Halle Berry and "Mama June" Shannon) that I cited were both alive....and approximately the same age, so you can't even use that as a factor.

    So tell me Mike, which one would you want to spend 10 years on a deserted island with?

    This woman?

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    Or this woman-

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  16. mikemikev

    mikemikev Banned

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    But choosing the worst White women and the best Black women to compare is illogical. MOD EDIT - Rule 2
     
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    No, it compares perfectly. Because their ages are close to the same...so you can't base it on age.

    You can ONLY compare it on.....sexual attractiveness. Which means, unless you choose Mama June? You don't care about RACE....you care about "hot".

    Which was my original point. Even the worst racist man...eventually gives up his racism in favor of...his d**k.
     
  18. mikemikev

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    No, because you are cherry picking not looking at averages. MOD EDIT - Rule 2

    I certainly do care about hot. And most black women are absolutely repulsive.
     
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    Would you choose Halle or Mama June? Again, you're left with two choices-

    1. racism...and you HAVE to pick Mama June.

    2. your penis....and you'd pick Halle and "hate yourself" every time you and her got busy in the hut after fishing.

    Choose........or don't, since we both KNOW which one you'd choose.
     
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    Right, because there aren't culture neutral IQ tests and g-loaded cognitive tests which measure only inherent ability.
     
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    Would I choose the ugliest White woman you can find or the 65% White Halle Berry? Are you trying to make a fool of yourself?
     
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    Would you? All the times I've asked, you won't give a straight answer.

    Halle Berry or June Shannon....stuck on a deserted island, who do you want as your sole companion?
     
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    June Shannon.
     
  24. Gorn Captain

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    Damn, man. You must REALLY hate minorities. I don't think David Duke or George Lincoln Rockwell were that angry. :D

    Given your "Location" claims you live in Korea, what if I chose a hot Asian woman versus June Shannon?
     
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    Correct. There arn't.

    - - - Updated - - -

    LOL! Ew
     

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