Why does Australia invade third world countries because the US does?

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  1. Mario Milano

    Mario Milano New Member Past Donor

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    I don't get what the hell it is or has been in the last 5 decades of why Australia invades third world countries that have done no wrong to us, just because the psychopathic war mongering USA decide to invade a country so they can supply the world with heroin (Afghanistan-Vietnam) why does Australia get involved with these loonies?
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    Spies assist Australian forces in Afghanistan: Aussie spymaster


    Head of Australia's super-secretive service Nick Warner has revealed that secret agents assist Australian troops in conducting tactical and strategic operations in war-battered Afghanistan.


    Warner publicly announced in Sydney on Thursday that “Australia's Secret Intelligence Service (ASIS) support Australian Defence Forces (ADF) operations in Afghanistan range from the tactical to the strategic.”

    "It is difficult to see a situation in future where the ADF (Australian Defence Forces) would deploy without ASIS alongside," AFP quoted Warner as saying.

    Warner pointed out that “ASIS reporting has been instrumental in saving the lives of Australian soldiers and civilians - including kidnap victims”.


    He also added that more than half of the secret intelligence members are women and out of each five spies, one belongs to an ethnic group.

    Describing the importance of cyber-operations for national security of Australia in the coming years, Warner stated that “ASIS's operational sphere will become more challenging, volatile and dangerous.”


    A total of 33 Australian soldiers have been killed in Afghanistan since October 2001, when the US-led invasion of the country took place, according to official figures released by the website icasualties.org.

    Some 1,500 Australian soldiers reportedly support the US-led operations in Afghanistan.

    Insecurity continues to rise across Afghanistan despite the presence of some 130,000 US-led forces in the war-torn country.


    The United Nations announced on February 4 that 2011 was the deadliest on record for Afghan civilians. The death toll rose eight percent compared to the year before and was roughly double the figure for 2007.

    Overall, 3,021 civilians died in violence related to the war and 4,507 were wounded in 2011.
     
  2. dumbanddumber

    dumbanddumber New Member

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    I think the main reason why Australia supports the financial terrorists in wall street who run the USA government is just in case we get over run by our neigbours they would assist.

    The Aphgans see the American and Australian forces on their land telling them how to live their lives and run their country as no different to the Russian invaders 30 or so years ago. All foreign soldiers are viewed as invaders.

    The sooner we get out of Aphganistan the better.

    I love a conspiracy theory or two and firmly believe that 9/11 was a false flag operation to enable the corrupt Bush administration to invade Aphganistan and Iraq under false pretences, otherwise Bush would be branded the new Hitler of the 20th centrutry.

    The US has many false flag operations in its history so its no suprise at all that their was another one or that more will come, and Suddam Hussien got what he deserved but he didn't have any weapons of mass destruction.

    Why do i think 9/11 was a false flag operation the overwhelming evidence is in the way the buildings fell, controlled demolition, and the people at ground zero, fireman, policeman and civilians all report loud explosions going of.

    Why Australia follows the USA and the UK i think its the financial elements behind the scenes that unites this trinity more than anything else.

    I read the other day that while they where hunting Gaddafi down in his own country the Rothchilds had established thier bank in Lybia andstarted trading even before the war was finished, while Gaddafi was leader he wouldn't allow them to build a bank in Lybia.

     
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    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hermann Goering quote:
    “Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”
     
  4. Mario Milano

    Mario Milano New Member Past Donor

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    Yep I saw that while the war in Libya was going on, the Mercenaries only had Bengazi at that stage and the Rothschild's established their central bank there (that's what that war and murder of tens of thousands of civilians was all about).

    This is what the Labour Leader Newspaper wrote about the Rothschild's over 100 years ago
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    1891: The British Labour Leader makes the following statement on the subject of the Rothschilds,

    "This blood-sucking crew has been the cause of untold mischief and misery in Europe during the present century, and has piled up its prodigious wealth chiefly through fomenting wars between States which ought never to have quarrelled.

    Whenever there is trouble in Europe, wherever rumours of war circulate and men’s minds are distraught with fear of change and calamity you may be sure that a hook-nosed Rothschild is at his games somewhere near the region of the disturbance."

    Comments like this worry the Rothschilds and towards the end of the 1800’s they purchase Reuters news agency so they can have some control of the media.
     
  5. dumbanddumber

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    These days they control the whole world on the back of Milton Friedman's version of capatalism.

    They have formed an oligarchy and imo are the main drivers of the new world order.

    Its amazing that governments around the world are bowing to their demands through corporations.

    What we need is a new modern day Oliver Cromwell to rid the world of these leeches.

    The money masters
    [video=youtube;JXt1cayx0hs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXt1cayx0hs[/video]

    The shock doctrine
    [video=youtube;7iW1SHPgUAQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iW1SHPgUAQ[/video]
     
  6. Panzerkampfwagen

    Panzerkampfwagen New Member

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    Of course we're gonna have spies along with our troops. That has nothing to do with your question.

    And which 3rd world countries have we invaded in the last 50 years?

    In the last 50 years the wars we have been in have been:

    Vietnam (we didn't invade, we were defending South Vietnam from North Vietnam).
    Indonesian Confrontation (once again, we were defending another country and the US wasn't even involved in that one).
    Gulf War (we didn't invade anyone and didn't even end up fighting as we were defending the Gulf).
    Afghanistan (we went in as Bin Laden attacked the US which activated the Anzus Treaty).
    Iraq (I'll give you this one).
     
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  8. Mario Milano

    Mario Milano New Member Past Donor

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    Now there is a perfect example of why parents should home school their kids so to teach them to have independent thoughts instead of blindly believing the trash that comes from the Media especially when the bull(*)(*)(*)(*) we get from the media comes from Reuters which is owned by the Rothschild's.
     
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    Panzerkampfwagen New Member

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    Wait, are you agreeing with me or disagreeing?
     
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    m2catter Well-Known Member

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    What other word then *invasion* would be more correct for an army being somewhere else on a different continent claiming all kinds odf reson for the job they are asked to do but never the one it should be all about, namely self defence?
     
  11. Panzerkampfwagen

    Panzerkampfwagen New Member

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    So when US troops were stationed in Australia during WW2 they invaded Australia?

    No, they went to an allied nation. That's not an invasion.

    When Australian troops went to South Vietnam during the Vietnam War that also was not an invasion. They were a friendly nation and we were there to defend them from North Vietnam.

    Word meanings actually matter.
     
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    m2catter Well-Known Member

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    Oh boy,
    don't twist the meaning of my words. If allied countries exercise together either here or there, differen't story.
    But if we, as so often, travel to distanced lands to fight and kill it becomes a whole different scenario.
    Reading through your lines however almost invites the thought that the Vietnam War is /was justified.....
    I hope I am wrong there, with 5 million killed, cheers
     
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    Panzerkampfwagen New Member

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    I didn't twist anything you said. You're the one who said what you said.
     
  14. Mario Milano

    Mario Milano New Member Past Donor

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    Seriously dude your logic is freakin warped, hundreds of thousands of troops invade Vietnam killing millions of Vietnamese people, the US air force bombing the crap out of the country for ten years, dropping chemical weapon on the country, na the Vietnamese people invited them to be killed so they could have Amerikkkan style democrazy...right?

    Oh and another thing dude, the excuse that the US used to invade Vietnem was the Gulf of Tonkin false Flag fairy tale, the huge LIE they used to start that war. Just like the false flag of 9/11 to start major wars in the M.E that they planned before 9/11, they just needed an excuse so they made one up just like Vietnam.

    Here have a look at this quote from an ex US General that he said on tv years ago and have a look at the countries they are invading now like Libya, Syria targeting Iran, can you see something there? And our Rothschild controlled Govt goes along with the psychopaths!

    "We're going to take out 7 countries in 5 years: Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan & Iran.."-- General Wesley Clark
     
  15. axialturban

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    Funny thread. Picking one side of a theatre in a broader war is so biased its pointless. To answer the OP, we havent invaded anyone. What we've done is conduct operations in foreign countries when its been determined to be in the strategic interests of the nation, and then left, ideally when peace has been restored and local governance and security reestablished. Your completely abusing the word invasion.
     
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    if hostile foreign troops landed on our shores uninvited i would call that an invasion.
     
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    Panzerkampfwagen New Member

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    According to your logic the Allies invaded France to kill the French during WW2.
     
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    Do you know that bankers financed both sides during WW2 ?

    [video=youtube;lBZne09Gf5A]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBZne09Gf5A[/video]
    [video=youtube;SjUrib_Gh0Y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjUrib_Gh0Y[/video]
     
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    Who says they haven't already done so and left several times. The difference is what they do when they are here. Have they invaded territorial boundaries yes, have they invaded my house no. There is lots of different degree's of invasion and what should be more important is the reasons and extent of activity, not some label used like bait by media to excite emotional babies.
     
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    Yes, that was never so evident as with Iraq...........
     
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    Panzerkampfwagen New Member

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    Wtf are you talking about?
     
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    Absolutely.... strategic strategy gone right looks that way, strategic strategy gone wrong looks like WW2. Iraq was about proliferation in the MiddleEast, shifting the centre of gravity in islamic extremism and western capacity to respond. Thinking that has nothing to do with Australian interests is soo bourgeois.
     
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    I assume you disagree with the point and are implying that its stupid, well hey the French conducted ops within NZ sinking that Greenpeace ship, and a Canadian recently was arrested for passing on intelligence about Australia to an eastern power so if you cannot keep up, be more specific about where you lose track and I'll explain it more for you :p
     
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    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is a weird post! Not sure you are sure about what you think you are sure that you are sure about!
     
  25. Panzerkampfwagen

    Panzerkampfwagen New Member

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    Invasions are about taking control. The French in NZ conducted a raid.
     

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