Why exactly are Muslims offended by/dont celebrate Christmas?

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  1. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't need Islam to tell me anything. I have seen all I need of Islam to know exactly what these men are all about.
     
  2. publican

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    My 'assumption' is a fact. England hates Christians yet loves radial Islam.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/what-radical-islam-looks-like-in-the-uk-2014-8

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    How can it be a hate crime to show your faith in Christ ...
    www.dailymail.co.uk/news/.../How-hate-crime-faith-Christ.ht...
    Daily Mail
    Sep 3, 2012 - Faith: The cross is a symbol of faith for Christians, but employers can ban 'Why I will fight to bear my Cross': Four devout British.
     
  3. publican

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    Pay attention if possible. England coddles Muslim extremists in their own nation while they call Christian preaching 'hate speech'. Now be a good boy and tell me how the USA does that.
     
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    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I absolutely agree with your whole comment!
     
  5. lizarddust

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    I'm not seeing any coddling of radical Islam in that article.

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    I'm not seeing any coddling of radical Islam in that article.
     
  6. publican

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    Your denial is noted.
     
  7. lizarddust

    lizarddust Well-Known Member

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    And what denial may that be?
     
  8. publican

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    Denial of reality.
     
  9. publican

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    As is your love of terrorists.
     
  10. Karma Mechanic

    Karma Mechanic Well-Known Member

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    Really?
    http://markhumphrys.com/christianity.ww2.html

    While some of the leadership was clearly anti-christian, most of the rank and file were Christians.
    I am surprised you didn't know that. Hitler used Christianity to rally his willing executioners.

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    some christians blew up a church with little girls in it and synagogue in Atlanta does that count?
     
  11. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    After calling me a bigot, Karma Mechanic refused to answer the above question. Below is his response from last year.Karma Mechanic said
    "You still have said why you are having a hissy fit over calling it a Holiday tree. "

    I know I know, its hypocritical he called me the "bigot" repeatedly but as it turns out he has been quite the busy beaver with this whole intolerance of Christmas tree thing
    Sounds like he was visited by three ghosts since last year....and was converted over to ISLAM.
     
  12. FreshAir

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    Christmas used to be a drunken holiday for adults, some Christians want that back


    "Christmas history in America"

    http://www.thehistoryofchristmas.com/ch/in_america.htm

    "The pilgrims, English separatists that came to America in 1620, were even more orthodox in their Puritan beliefs than Cromwell. As a result, Christmas was not a holiday in early America. From 1659 to 1681, the celebration of Christmas was actually outlawed in Boston. Anyone exhibiting the Christmas spirit was fined five shillings."

    "It wasn’t until the 19th century that Americans began to embrace Christmas. Americans re-invented Christmas, and changed it from a raucous carnival holiday into a family-centered day of peace and nostalgia. "

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    and the Jews in Germany not long ago... lets hope history never repeats
     
  13. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Im trying to understand what is bigoted according to you and what isn't. With all that's going on in the world today, if I said "The angry people are the Muslims" would that be bigoted?
     
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    Yes as its a generalized characterization of an entire group of people. If you had said 'some of the angry people are Muslims', this would not be a broad sweeping generalization and more a reflection of reality.
     
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    Again you show that you really are not credible, try to look up things like who is the head of state and church in the UK. How many wars British troops have fought and died in wars against Islamic Terrorism during the last 10 years. How many Bishops have seats in the House of Lords, until you get some sense of perspective you are just not worth the effort. Enjoy
     
  16. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes thanks but I would like Karma to answer the question since he is throwing the word around.
     
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    How can it be a hate crime to show your faith in Christ ...
    www.dailymail.co.uk/news/.../How-hate-crime-faith-Christ.ht...
    Daily Mail
    Sep 3, 2012 - Faith: The cross is a symbol of faith for Christians, but employers can ban 'Why I will fight to bear my Cross': Four devout British.
     
  18. publican

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    Christ turned water into wine.

    Still waiting on your proof.
     
  19. RiaRaeb

    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Personally I have little time for these sorts of things, if there is a complete ban on jewelry being worn then religious symbols should not be excluded. The relationship counselor and registrar clearly are not able to do their respective jobs and I would not support them anymore than I would support a Muslim Butcher who claimed his employer should not make him cut Pork! Sadly we made a rod for our own back when we allowed religious groups exemption from laws, being a biker the one that got up my nose was Sikhs not having to wear motorcycle helmets!
    We are paying a price for that now, but to equate these stories with Britain loving radical anything is simply wrong.

    I should add that I have a uniform code for my employees which means scarves cannot be worn, think about why I might have that.
     
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    Radical Islam is taking over the UK as it's citizens shrug their shoulders, the UK calls Christian speech 'hate speech'. Understand that.
     
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    Except that it isn't, and it doesn't. It's total nonsense.

    There are a tiny minority of radical Muslims, and a tiny, tiny occurrence of minor of incidents where someone (usually an extreme right winger who has been trying to provoke such an incident deliberately in some way, reported in an extreme right wing 'newspaper' with a long history of support for an extreme xenophobic agenda) complains about something being supposedly 'anti-Christian' even though it usually isn't.

    One or two sensationalist reports from a source with a well known agenda does not constitute 'proof', and does not make something true.

    Britain is not 'overrun with radical Muslims', and Britain does not 'hate Christians'. That is a laughably false claim.

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    It isn't true. It doesn't matter how often you repeat it. It still isn't true.

    Understand that.
     
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    Except I have proven otherwise. Grasp that. :roll:
     
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    No, you know nothing of Islam. You said it yourself, having come to your conclusions based simply of what you have seen on the TV screen. It's a similar case to many of those in the world who hate America.

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    70 then.
     
  24. AlphaOmega

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    I know lots about Islam. Ive even worked with many muslims in tech transfer programs. One so enraged I had a female boss that he called me weak and cowardly and got his ass back on a plane within two days back home to where women know their place. I also know they stone women to death for going out without permission. I know if there is a terrorist act around the world the terrorist will with 99% certainty be a follower of Islam. I know if I see a person beheaded it will be at the hands of a muslim. Religion of peace my ass. Its a political agenda.
    Also at no point did I say I learned everything from television.
     
  25. RiaRaeb

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    No, proved nothing to anyone.

    It is difficult to grasp how little understanding of the subject you have.
     

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