Why exactly is the forum getting moved everywhere?

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  1. JohnnyMo

    JohnnyMo Moderator Staff Member Donor

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  2. Nightmare515

    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

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    Just this fast the Current Events forum's first page is almost already full with new active threads. Seems to me like most people prefer to hang around in here...no need to force people to try and change.
     
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    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    Yep, nailed it.
     
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    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    Trial for what exactly? Why not post a real explaination.
     
  5. fiddlerdave

    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What a circle jerk of lazy, Right Wing self-interested posers who can't even read or comprehend the most BASIC of guidelines for thread creation and posting.

    I guess for most of the whiners in this thread, some personal whine becomes a "current event" for the WORLD if it they get an itch.

    Sorry you have to click a header of interest to get to your subject. Such hard work!

    If the RIghties can get the minimum wage repealed, maybe you can find some starving old lady to click your mouse for you for 10 cents per hour and a crust of bread each day!
     
  6. JohnnyMo

    JohnnyMo Moderator Staff Member Donor

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    What is all the whining about??
     
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    RedWolf Well-Known Member

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    And this is exactly what I'm talking about. This kind of behavior is ignored and allowed and the quality of this forum is dropping fast.
     
  8. RosePop

    RosePop Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Probably because when the threads are as pathetic as Zimmerman gains 100 pounds, its just the right thing to do.
     
  9. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Apparently the outrage is over having to move a cursor and click a mouse.
     
  10. SpaceCricket79

    SpaceCricket79 New Member Past Donor

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    Not really - more over having to sift through 30+ subforms, some of which have less than 10 total threads during the lifetime of this website - just to find out which of said 30+ subforms the thread belongs in.

    And to have to repeat this on a regular basis.
     
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    Stuart Wolfe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But on the bright side, the Spaaaaaaaaaaa-a-aaace Cricket is back!
     
  12. SpaceCricket79

    SpaceCricket79 New Member Past Donor

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    :) Thanks it's great to be back
     
  13. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You mean that you have to read and categorize? Damn I hate that.
     
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    SpaceCricket79 New Member Past Donor

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    Here's a good example. A thread on Bill Maher's comments on radical Islam was moved from Current Events to "Warfare/military - ethnic and religious conflicts". An obscure subforum with only about 5 threads which I hadn't even heard of until today.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/ethni...stianity-regarding-violence-liberal-bull.html

    Seems like this is an attempt to bring traffic to some of the dead subforums, but I think it's going to backfire. If a subforum is dead, then it should be merged with a larger forum, rather than forcibly redirecting traffic there.
     
  15. Windigo

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    <<< Mod Edit: Insult >>>Moderation has flat out said that trolling is too subjective to moderate. Back in the day the original mods would (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) slap the trolls off the forum. Then the new group took over.
     
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    SpaceCricket79 New Member Past Donor

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    When you start doing it instead of posting 90% of your threads in Current Events then I'll take you more seriously. If you'd have no problem with an active thread being moved to a tiny forum which hasn't had any posts in over 1 year then fair enough, but I bet you'd take objection once it's your threads getting moved.
     
  17. Jiyuu-Freedom

    Jiyuu-Freedom Keep the peace Past Donor

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    This answer doesn't answer the reason why we move threads. I myself, typically put a post in a thread that I have moved a thread.

    Too many threads are put in the upper forums because thats what we have been conditioned to do. These threads often fit other forums and can be posted there as easily as in the upper forums.

    This is my opinion. Other staff can chime in.

    Jiyuu
     
  18. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think it is an absolutely wonderful idea, perhaps break things down a bit so folks can sort through things by interest. There are many, any topics I have no interest in at all, and putting things where they belong will hopefully prevent folks from having to be subject to things they have no interest in.

    Example, and I am not meaning to pick on the folks in the sections I will discuss, to each their own. But the conspiracy theory section, I have no interest in, and hence appreciate things of that nature being put there. The religious section I generally opt to leave folks to their own devices, and certainly appreciate it out of my way and my temptation.

    I think it is a stellar idea and whomever came up with it deserves a big hug.
     
  19. Jiyuu-Freedom

    Jiyuu-Freedom Keep the peace Past Donor

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    I appreciate your reply and opinion, TFM.

    Here at P.F. we constantly discuss changes. We all have our opinions and not all of us agree at times. We sometimes discuss one subject for months.

    What I am trying to say is we have gone through many changes over the years and we adjust to them.

    I can't thank the owner enough for helping prevent crashes and thanking the membership for their donations to help us here.

    I will share a story I was a part of over 3 yrs. ago when I was an advisor.

    The advisors were asked to move threads from the LWN and CE to the appropriate forums. These were old threads and it didn't have anything to do with them being in those 2 forums. It was a grueling, time consuming, manual move I worked on for months. It was difficult too.

    I believe the changes that will be coming down the pike (hopefully) will make the members happy. I can't say what they are (of course because it's not in stone and not my place), what I can say it is a way to make categories more flexible in the upper forums.

    For now, if a moderator moves a thread, there is a reason. All a member has to do is ask one of us and we can give you answers just as I am here!

    JF
     
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    Jiyuu-Freedom Keep the peace Past Donor

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    Please folks, I don't like to do any editing or deleting in a thread I have posted in. It's kind of a thing moderators don't feel we should.

    Let's keep on topic and not discuss other members, okay? I don't want to have to report any of you. Fair enough?

    Jiyuu
     
  21. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I like change. That is just me personally, and I am not necessarily speaking of the forum, but in general.

    What is the worst possible case scenario of trying to change things up on the forum a bit? No one is going to die. No one is going to quit. I think that folks get their chones in a wad not over the actual changes, but over the concept of change. Evolve or die, right?

    Also, as far as political discussion forums go, this one is immensely popular and immensely active, all of that despite not begin that old. There are many that have been around much longer, and there are many that were born and died a quick death. So whatever the owner is doing, obviously he or she is intelligent enough to make something work.

    Lastly, it's a free (*)(*)(*)(*)ing country, and the software for a forum is a few hundred and hosting a smaller forum is not expensive at all.
     
  22. JohnnyMo

    JohnnyMo Moderator Staff Member Donor

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    Thanks for the input. I'm curious to see how these changes affect participation and the flame threads.
     
  23. Jiyuu-Freedom

    Jiyuu-Freedom Keep the peace Past Donor

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    Hi johnnymo,

    We are not Gods, #1. We are all volunteers and if you had any idea the responsibility we have here and the endless hours in just one thread we have worked on, you would understand. I hope that you do.

    We can't catch all flamebait threads. We don't have enough help. We don't have all mods on at all times. In fact, I may be the only one on tonight and haven't even addressed the reported posts. I may have a page or two that if I am diligent at working them, could be on until 3 in the morning. I have spent (along with other staff), endless hours trying to make the members happy.

    This is why we now have "greeters", "advisors" and they all have potential to move to moderator status. It's 9:15 here, I just went through a procedure yesterday, and I still choose to be here to help out.

    We address flamebait all the time. If you know the definition in the rules, we may not catch a thread right away, but we catch them. Remember, the rate of posting in a thread like that can move fast because many are attracted to them. Don't ask me why. It's what I observe here.
     
  24. JohnnyMo

    JohnnyMo Moderator Staff Member Donor

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    IMO, the moderation on this site is very good. I understand a moderator's role very well and agree it's a tough gig. My biggest gripe about the PF has been the steady flow threads started, that many believe are simply racial flamebait. This has been better in recent weeks and from my prospective, I hope the improvement continues.

    Again, all of you do an excellent job that many here appreciate.
     
  25. AndrogynousMale

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    My thread about gay marriage being legalized in Delaware was moved from current events to the civil rights subforum. It wasn't a big deal, but I feel something like that belongs in current events, whereas the gay and lesbian section is better for discussion about homosexuality.
     

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