Why Has Trump Never Been Indicted After 5 Years Of Hundreds Of Criminal Claims

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Which possibility exist

  1. Trump outsmarted every Democrat and 17 intelligence agency

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  2. Democrats in DC are just too

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  3. Democrats in Washington DC are so incompetent they can't muster a single indictment from hundreds of

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  4. Most of these claims are just more fake propaganda

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  1. Condor060

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    So for all of these hundreds of criminal claims over 5 years to be true to include a 3 year investigation with 50 forensic FBI agents, two dozen CIA officials, 2500 witnesses, and millions of subpoenaed documents, without a single indictment against Trump in the last 5 years, that means only 3 possible reasons could exist.

    1. Trump has outsmarted every Democrat and 17 intelligence agencies involved

    2. Democrats in Washington DC are so incompetent they can't muster a single indictment from hundreds of criminal claims with all this claimed evidence we hear about every day even when they control the House

    3. For the same reasons CNN and MSNBC have lost over 80% of their viewership.
    Fake news, Fake claims and Exaggerations

    I think I will go with option 3 as their latest hill they chose to die on is, the author of a book, came to the WH to interview Trump for 2 hours, somehow was able to get off by herself and sneak around in the WH, somehow found the WH Plummer, had a one on one conversation with the WH Plummer, who told her Trump was flushing classified documents down his toilet, but for some reason this WH Plummer never told anyone else on the planet, to include the current administration?

    And this is the latest breaking news from the left.
     
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    In the past 5 years he was president. Not really a good argument there. Heck the Mueller report didn’t press charges because Mueller thought it was Congress job. And even then, he was impeached twice. If that doesn’t count for criminal misconduct I don’t know what would.
     
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    So your vote is Democrats are too incompetent to make a charge.
     
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    Democrats made several charges, independent investigators made charges. Heck the AG for NY is looking at Trump for tax fraud. In my opinion? The only reason Trump isn’t behind bars right now is because of Republican support. I guess they don’t want a repeat of Nixon.
     
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    1. Trump isn't indicted because people support him?
    2. Tax fraud against someone who doesn't do their own taxes but has one of the largest tax law firms on the planet that are also responsible for any tax fraud to include not even the IRS is making such claim?

    You keep making the same point. Democrats are too incompetent.
     
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    You keep ignoring that he was impeached twice. That’s literally unheard of in the history of the US.

    Also do you see how you’re defending him right now? Yeah imagine that but an entire political party. That’s the problem.
     
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    Back when good attorneys would work for trump they taught him well. He has learned well how to speak in 'gangster tongue'. It's going to take a very unusual prosecutor to pursue putting him away because who ever has the balls to prosecute trump is going to become a target for those in the MAGA crowd that have consumed too much kool-Aid. Example being our current DOJ who doesn't seem to have the nerve to cross the line and prosecute trump. If there's a prosecutor who is willing to actually risk their life I'm sure there's plenty of different crimes he can be charged with. Hell the latest exposure about him destroying, flushing, stealing government documents is enough to go after him for obstruction of justice.
     
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    And you keep forgetting he was Acquitted twice. I guess you forgot that part
    Next

    Asking you why he isn't indicted is somehow defending him now?
    Thats a trick you can pull on some other leftist. It doesn't work with anyone with at least a moderate education.
    But it is the current default excuse the left comes up with when they find themselves unable to support information they proclaim.
     
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    Because they did. They found several problems. The Mueller report found he tried multiple times to get help from Russia during the 2016 presidential election. But a political party that was willing to do whatever he said decided not to kick him out of office. Even after the crowd tried to kill them.
     
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    You have described organized crime and organized corruption AKA Mafia. RICO is the solution.
     
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    So your vote is Trump outsmarted them all

    The left has been prosecuting Trump for 5 years now without being attacked.
    What would be the difference now?

    I don't think you will find a prosecutor gullible enough to make that claim from a book where the author was able to sneak around the WH unescorted to interview the WH Plummer to get her breaking story. But its amazing how many will fall for these tales over and over.
     
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    Sorry, too thin. So now you're voting that Trump outsmarted the entire Democrat party?
     
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    More like had corrupt help from Republicans who were willing to help spread corruption because “power”.
     
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    When they indict someone a due process hearing follows, and Trump's opposition is very due process challenged. ;-)
     
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    So now its some major conspiracy that includes hundreds of Republicans?
    You conveniently can't recall that EVERY witness brought forth by Democrats folded under Republican questioning and went from they claim Trump said (X) to, well I didn't hear him say it, I was told he said it.
    You conveniently can't recall the evidence shown to the Senate that was shown faked when Democrats were caught editing witnesses claims
    You conveniently can't recall the super secret whistle blower that was guaranteed to testify, that they could never provide
    You are like most on the left. You need a miracle to explain the miracle to show the miracle.
     
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    Full due process hearings and cross examination tend to reveal the inconvenient truth.
    That's why we have so few of them now.

    "Now that special counsel Robert Mueller has found that no one in the Trump campaign colluded with Russia to steal the 2016 election, Democrats are busy moving the goal posts. But this is a distraction from the real reckoning that needs to come.

    The one we need is for all the intelligence officials—including former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, former Central Intelligence Agency chief John Brennan, and the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s former Director James Comey and former Deputy Director Andrew McCabe—who pushed the Russia conspiracy theory. The special counsel has just made clear they did so with no real evidence."
    WALL STREET JUSTICE, Mueller Exposes Spy Chiefs, Did our intel leaders have any evidence when they pushed the Russia collusion line?, By William McGurn, March 25, 2019.
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/mueller-exposes-spy-chiefs-11553555713
     
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    Yeah. It was the GOP who enabled him. And I don’t have a clue what you’re referring to. The second impeachment had no witnesses, in part because McConnell refused to have the impeachment hearing until Trump was out of office. The Mueller report said what I said. As for the first impeachment hearing? Yeah he did it. Like there was no question he did it. As for what you’re trying to refer to? No clue.
     
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    FYI, that's the WSJ's OPINION section.
     
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    It doesn't and you (obviously) don't.
     
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    The mueller report found that Trump tried to get Russian collusion in the 2016 election. As for the ad hominem part? Not sure what you’re referring to.
     
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    Because blather, bullshit, left wing mantras, and unsubstantiated accusations, and CNN/MSNBC anchor tantrums do not comprise legal evidence.
     
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    I don't think it's as simple as you try to imply. There's a few factors at play. Trump had a Trump card for quite awhile, i.e. it's unclear if a sitting president can even be indicted in a normal sense. Mueller didn't think so. And Congress acts on politics, not facts. As for more recently, a lot of those investigations are still ongoing. And probably most importantly, Trump is pretty good at avoiding accountability in general. He does this by how he operates, e.g. minimizing an electronic paper trail, using other people to do the dirty work, using his money to shield him, using corporations as a shield from accountability, e.g. the Trump organization could be convicted and lose money, or his charity could get dissolved, but he gets shielded from personal legal exposure. It's unclear if any pending investigations will yield anything that sticks, but if not I would have to give him credit for how he exploits and cons people and still gets away with it.
     
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    I mean we can also look at Trump University where he had to make a plea deal as proof of that. He’s slippery like that.
     
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    IOW, even the Trump hating WSJ knows that his lying opponents could not hold up under cross examination.

    "CIA Director John Brennan today petulantly denied that he lied in March when he publicly insisted that the CIA had not improperly accessed the computers of Senate staffers investigating the agency’s role in torturing detainees. Since then, an internal investigation found the CIA had done just that, and Brennan was forced to apologize to Senate intelligence committee members."
    THE INTERCEPT, AFTER LYING AND APOLOGIZING, BRENNAN QUALIFIES BOTH, CIA Director John Brennan today petulantly denied that he lied when he insisted the CIA had not improperly accessed the computers of Senate staffers., By Dan Froomkin, September 18 2014.
    https://theintercept.com/2014/09/18/lying-apologize-brennan-qualifies/
     
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    I am unsure why you would NEED to re-interpret my post? I merely pointed out that your link was to the OPINION section of the WSJ.
     

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