Why I don't like gays & why theyre ways should not become acceptable

Discussion in 'Gay & Lesbian Rights' started by RightToLife, Jan 11, 2013.

  1. RightToLife

    RightToLife New Member

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    Well this is going to be a 100% true story from me..... and stuff that happened to me so, bear with me.


    Okay so I met this kid in 6th grade. and we became good friends. he was in my top 2-4 friends but wasnt my best friend. anyways we would always chill and share our love for Xbox and Star wars etc.... so we grew up a bit. and separated for a while during 11th and 12th grade. he hung out with the drug addicts and car junkies. the 2nd half of 12th grade we became friends again since we had gym class together.

    okay so there were a lot of gay jokes made. by both of us, but mostly by him. but nothing out of the ordinary. in 9th grade we actually would always make fun of our gay spanish teacher together LOL. one time I was caught and thrown out of class. anyways... things got a bit weird during the end of 9th grade.... whenever we were hanging, and playing video games and watching tv or something.... he would always squeeze my arm and say "mr squeeze" at first i thought it was funny... but it started occurring nonstop.... so by the end of 9th grade summer i stopped hanging with him for the last month.

    okay so fast forward to when we are friends recently....

    let the gayness ensue. one time he told me he was bisexual.... and i thought he was joking.... im guessing hes not joking anymore. so recently hes been doing things GAY AS HELL.... ALWAYS texting me..... calling me "sexy" all the time, and not in a joking way.... like he would stare at me funny.... he would always say "lets have sex"....and would say that DOZENS of times.... he would always say gay things like sucking penis and just weird as (*)(*)(*)(*) stuff.... the kid completely changed. he would always say that my father "has a big (*)(*)(*)(*)".... which... i'll admit was pretty funny to hear him say that. but after the 5th time it starts to raise an red flag... anyways.... this is just the start... he would start to text me every day "wanna come over babe ;)" ALL THE TIME... mad weird.... lemme grab my phone to show y'all what he would say...

    he would always say "wanna come over babe" if he would say that.... i would say no of course... after like a month of hearing that it got weird.

    if he would just regularly ask me to come over... he would always respond with... like 98% of the time. if i said yes. he would ALWAYS reply "naked?" ALWAYS... it got really weird...

    so here's where it gets really bad. his parents were out on a trip for a week. and left him behind. so he would have parties at his house that i would go to. so at these parties things got weird. one day him and 2 other dudes pulled down their pants and were shoving thier asses in my face. which i'll admit was pretty funny at first because it was a WTF moment. then after a few seconds i just started to throw them to the ground. later when 2 others came to his house, they told them about what happened.... and my friend tried to do it again by taking off his pants and stuff. instead i ran out the door, then came back in 5 minutes. things got even worse.... he legit tried to kiss me. grabbed my face and had his lips puckered from 2 inches away and was moving closer. i punched him hard as hell in the gut then left

    things got worse. he would always text me and tell me that "loves me".... jsut wtf.... and he would say it with a strait face too..... and would ALWAYS ask "Wanna have sex" AND HE WOULD BE SERIOUS..... so recently ive stopped talking to him. he called me and texted me every day for a week with no response... then finally stopped. so i think im in the clear. he hasnt asked why but im sure he will eventually.

    so this is why im against gays... NO GUY should have to deal with what i had to deal with or worse. gays should NOT be acceptable in our society. we should look upon them as PERVERTS. because THATS what they really are. end of story. thanks for listening
     
  2. savage-republican

    savage-republican Well-Known Member

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    You sure you didnt do this to some girl and you are now projecting this onto a gay friend?
     
  3. DevilMay

    DevilMay Well-Known Member

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    Don't you see the silliness of the huge generalisation you're making? Assuming the guy is in fact gay and not just teasing someone he knows is homophobic, how do you arrive at the conclusion that every gay person is a "pervert" and deserving of your dislike?! Ridiculous.
     
  4. RightToLife

    RightToLife New Member

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    no he wasnt joking.... that much is clear. if you read my post. he admitted he was bisexual.
     
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    What you exeperienced appears to be the behavior of a delusional stalker, not something representative of most gay people. I could just as easily spout about a lesbian friend's anecdotal experience with a straight guy harassing her in a similar manner. That doesn't mean straight men should be "unacceptable in our society", only that stalking behavior should be, regardless of the sex or orientation of the perpetrator.

    What you are doing by applying that experience to all gay people is a classic misstep in logic. If you see a small, white, yappy dog do you assume that all dogs are small, white, and yappy? Ridiculous.

    If you let this experience turn you into someone who hates gay people and advocates their stigmatization, that's your choice. But you're in no position to demand that the rest of society should hold the same viewpoint.
     
  6. RightToLife

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    still... no guy should have to deal with another man hitting on them. and it shouldnt be acceptable for anyman to come up and hit on me. period. in a "nice" way or not.
     
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    That type of behaviour from men, although unacceptable, has been, is being and will be experienced by a huge amount of women around the world.
    Should I therefore state that men should not be acceptable in our society? That we should look upon them as perverts because that's what they really are?
     
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    Ok, no I missed that admittedly... but he still could be joking about the whole thing in some bizarre effort to make you feel uncomfortable because he notes your aversion to same-sex contact and finds it funny. The two guys coming over and pulling down their pants and shoving their asses in your face sounds like they are mocking you rather than trying to "get off" on it. But I don't know...

    What I do know is that, as others have also pointed out, you saying because of this one person you dislike millions of gay people and expect society to reject them/their rights, you aren't showing much intelligence. And that's me putting it lightly.
     
  9. DevilMay

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    Er... except single gay men? >_>

    People aren't mind readers. Maybe you come off as gay? Just throwing it out there...

    But you can be rest assured that I, along with the vast majority of gay people, would NEVER do what that guy did to you. If you make your position clear enough and they carry on it amounts to harassment. But for it to have gone on for so long suggests it's kinda of your own fault too for keeping him as a friend.
     
  10. RightToLife

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    nah.. i have a girlfriend.

    true.... still i kept thinking he was joking until it got painstakingly obvious.
     
  11. DevilMay

    DevilMay Well-Known Member

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    Well I'm going to ask you directly... do you believe that all, most, some, or a simple minority of gay people would have done what that guy did?

    Don't you see the problem with judging millions of people based on 1 guy?
     
  12. RightToLife

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    i think only a minority would have done as he did.... having said that, i believe a majority of gay people will hit on others in their same sex. not in the same degree my former friend did, but they would still hit on them.

    so no. i dont feel bad about judging. just because the hit on men in a nicer way doesnt mean it should be acceptable and "ok" in our society.
     
  13. DevilMay

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    Of course they'll hit on others in their same sex. They're gay.

    If you mean a majority of gay people will purposely hit on guys they know are heterosexual, what evidence do you have for that? You just seem to be projecting a limited and very personal experience onto your world view with no real evidence to support the claim.
     
  14. RightToLife

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    and pedofiles only hit on little kids.... doesnt change a thing from my view. gays are not right. they shouldnt be punished legally for going after their same sex. however they should not legally have rights, and they shouldnt not be acceptable. we should look at them like drug addicts. we dont hate them, but its not acceptable.
     
  15. RightToLife

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    ummmmm what?
     
  16. DevilMay

    DevilMay Well-Known Member

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    So you simply dodge the question and go off on one about how much you wish gay people had no rights, and draw comparisons to paedophilia and drug addiction. Incredible.
     
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    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You don't like people making mistakes about your inclinations or feelings. Lots of girls and lots of young men have had this problem for a long time, and the woods are full of people who won't take no for an answer. That is no reason for, say, banning sex, is it? Say '(*)(*)(*)(*) off', and if he won't, use your knee where it'll hurt. If that doesn't work, complain of harassment to someone in authority.
     
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    Well, forget it. If a gay guy likes you then there is a chance you will get hit on. By no means do I mean all or even most will hit on you, but many will. I was hit on plenty of times, usually without incident. Being in a Band I guess I was more exposed to it, but it happens. I guess in a way you have to expect it, what are they supposed to do? We hit on women right?

    Now years ago [I hate saying back in my day] it was really frowned upon, so no doubt it was not as bad. However most times like I said just tell them you are not interested in a nice way and they should leave you alone. If you come upon a person that wont leave you alone, then I would threaten him with a harassment charge, that should do it.
     
  19. RightToLife

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    yeah but if i see a womans clearly not interested i move on...
     
  20. DevilMay

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    As would the vast majority of gay people with another guy if he stated he was heterosexual. It makes no sense. A heterosexual man persisting on hitting on a straight woman might at least think "there's a chance" because she's attracted to men... And therefore straight men would be the worst for it. If any gays do it, perhaps it's some sort of karmic effect... >_>
     
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    You're discomfort with the entire gay community comes from a single gay person making uncomfortable/unwanted advancements toward you, and from this you think that all gays should be outlawed?

    A bit of an overreaction, yeah?
     
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    Well I would imagine it's acceptable to them, right? How do they know you are not gay,,,how? What are they supposed to do,,,hide? Face it,,there are people that are GAY,,their choice or not what's the difference? Just another thing to get used to.

    One thing though, aren't you glad you live in a society that if your children are Gay they will be accepted by most people? Why would you want them to be shunned by people? It could happen you know....Would you disown them?, that cant be good.
     
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    OK,,so like I said if he dont move on threaten him, I had to once. I think the problem we have is that Gay men are more driven like all men are. So, they seem to come on stronger, know what I mean?
     
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    Vanity is very general. Just as fat, ugly slobs think women who don't like them are frigid, some homosexual men believe lads who find them doubly unattractive are just 'repressed'. So it goes.
     
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    Why not? Men toward women, men toward other men, women toward other women - all have ways of one expressing interest in the other. That might make you uncomfortable, but unless it's a case of them refusing to take 'no' for an answer, it's unreasonable to expect others to refrain from initiating flirtatious behavior, as if they should magically know whether or not the interest might be mutual.

    I'm not saying you should have to put up with abuse, but it's clear from your other replies in the thread that what you really want is a right to control the behavior of other people who aren't being abusive or aren't even bothering you personally. I see no reason you should be afforded any special rights in that regard.

    Actually, it very much should be acceptable for people to exercise the liberty of expressing themselves, even if what they say might be discomforting to others. You certainly have a right to respond negatively to it if that's how you feel, but don't imagine that you're the boss of everyone else - it seems the latter is exactly what you're trying to accomplish with this thread.
     

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