Why is Human Life So "Special"

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  1. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    Social sciences would be my answer to the study of human value without religious overtones. I consider spiritual values to be purely the realm of those with religious motivation, and to have no bearing on the natural (ie nature) value of humans.

    We value life simply because it is usually in our best interests to create a society where people work together for a number of reasons;

    1. Protection
    2. Cooperation
    3. Companionship

    there are probably others but I can't think of them at the moment.

    Even if man had not invented god we would still value human life for those reasons, though my statement that human life only has as much value as another places upon still stands. Nature has no reason to value human life above any other life.

    Social Sciences -
    1. The study of human society and of individual relationships in and to society.
    2. A scholarly or scientific discipline that deals with such study, generally regarded as including sociology, psychology, anthropology, economics, political science, and history.
     
  2. Anders Hoveland

    Anders Hoveland Banned

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    If human life is not special, one wonders what's so special about 9 months out of the woman's entire life. :wink:

    I mean, why not just make women suffer, who cares?

    Whether you think human life is special or not, I think it's obvious that the life of one still outweighs the convenience of another.
     
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    OKgrannie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When you buy a box of crayons, you can use them or not. You can give them away or put them on a shelf and forget them. They aren't in the least bit like kids who require attention, financial support, time, etc.

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    Your problem is your failure to recognize that pregnancy/childbirth is not just a mere inconvenience. And you won't grasp the scope of the problem until you do recognize that.
     
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    Then what is it, exactly?

    Why is the woman's choice over whether to keep her fetus so special?
     
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    OKgrannie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It has been explained uncountable times. It's the woman's body. It's only her body being affected by the pregnancy/birth. It's traumatic to her body. It causes changes, none of them good, to her body that she will have the rest of her life. With pregnancy, birth, and recovery, giving birth to a child takes more than a year out a woman's life, during that year she cannot live normally, as she usually would. Besides the physical aspects of pregnancy/childbirth, the emotional toll on a woman is great. While a man may be required to contribute financially, the burden of care is all on the mother. You must have some grasp of the enormity of sacrifice required to parent. It should never be forced upon someone unwilling to make that sacrifice.
     
  7. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    I'm sorry if you need the emotional crutch to lean on to make you feel that your life or anyone's has some sort of special value, fortunately I don't require that.

    Please elaborate on what you mean by "a concrete example for value"
     
  8. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    Nothing at all.

    You may not care, others do . they place more value on the life of the woman than you do.

    and this is you placing your values of life above someone elses, explain why you feel human life is special?
     
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    The Amazing Sam's Ego Banned at Members Request

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    Well yes, but maybe if she wasn't such a slut, she would not have been pregnant in the first place!
     
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    OKgrannie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Typical......response from a pro-life posterboy...

    but I'll bite. Does that mean that any woman who has an unplanned pregnancy is a slut, including married women? Does that mean that the pregnancy/childbirth/childrearing is an appropriate punishment for a woman's choosing to have sex? Does that mean that even married women should be punished for choosing to have sex? What punishment is appropriate for sluts who are lucky enough to avoid pregnancy, and how do you plan to detect their nefarious activity and convict them?
     
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    There should be no term...slut to you pro-aborts as your morality is different than the term describes. Doesn't a woman have the right to have sex with as many men as she can muster? I mean its her body...and what is so bad about sleeping around?

    Sleeping around for pleasure not married...would be a plus...a good activity for a woman to do....right?
     
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    So you don't think "value" is an important value - and I think your ideas about me are a little ... strange.

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    That's superfluous now.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93IyYKAcTos
     
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    Well it hadn't occurred to me that the thread had diverted and turned into something else.
     
  14. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    got to admit I am now totally confused with your comments. :eyepopping:
     
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    Call the fire-departement - they might help.

    [video=youtube;n6JCBruoSH0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6JCBruoSH0[/video]

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwARpaKHx_w
     
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    You seem to be claiming that women don't have the right to sleep with as many people as they choose. I'm curious why you single out women.

    Fact is, you have the right to view abortion in any light you choose just as you have the right to have sex with as many partners as you would like. The same goes for all Americans.

    Rather than paint those you disagree with with a broad brush, I suggest you take the time to realize that being pro-choice does not mean pro-abortion. Abortion is legal and there for those who choose to or choose not to.
     
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    It's not. In fact human life is the least desirable life form on the planet. This planet would be much better off without it.
     
  18. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    Are you always this obtuse?

    [video=youtube;obFHu7DCsEs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obFHu7DCsEs[/video]

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obFHu7DCsEs

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    How true, but that comment will send our religious people into a frenzy.
     
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    Ain't it the truth?

    As a general rule people give me a case of the ass.
     
  20. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    Pro-lifers do it all the time, they have this inbuilt addiction to interfere in other peoples lives, while claiming they want greater freedom for the individual, it's pretty much based around their religious moralistic mind set .
     
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    And how ironic is that, considering that without the intolerance and irrationality of religion, humans might have some potential to do good.
     

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