Why is it bad the "Mainstream Media" went after Trump?

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  1. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Tell me you're and activist journalist, without telling me.
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Willfully partisan and propogandized. Interesting.
     
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    You obviously haven't been watching the Biden admin. And something works much better than someone. Hence the ridiculous paranoia over a disease that mostly kill kills people already sick nearly to death if something. 300 people under the age of 25 in this country died with covid. Almost all, if not actually all had other deadly childhood diseases such as leukemia. For that we shut down public schools.
    We've got other studies now indicating that cloth masks are pretty much useless in the prevention of covid spread Why because the masks don't do much other than redirect the airflow.
     
  4. Kranes56

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    NPR has thousands of stories they produce... and you give me one example to the contrary. But your claim is they, like other media sites rely on anonymous sources for most of their reporting.
     
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    Lol nope. Just someone who saw someone post a video about how evil media is and then just ask “why is that evil? Isn’t it their job to be hounding corrupt government officials?”
     
  6. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    If its the job of the media to hold government accountable (and I agree that it is) then they should report all things equally wouldn't you say? And without the propaganda. Where is the light being shined on Biden? Why did the media cover for Comey? Hillary? I WANT corrupt officials to have a light shined on them. The media is not doing that. Instead they're being the propaganda arms of their respective parties that they support. That you cannot deny.
     
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    I mean I’m on my phone but the simple fact of the matter is... you know they’re corrupt because the media told you about some corrupt stuff they did. Biden still has concentration camps open. Clinton’s emails were dogging her throughout the entire campaign. Comey was arguably one of the reasons she lost in 2016. And even then... so what? I mean why does it matter that the media is “propaganda”? If we have a model of the press where it pays to be propaganda... then be propaganda.
     
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    Irrelevant since Congress got involved with one and not the other.
     
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    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    So you don't care that you're being lied to? Manipulated? Because that is what propaganda is and does.
     
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    It is relevant. I understand why you don't think it is
     
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    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    Oh let me guess...because I'm racist? Hint: I supported Obama against birthers. Why? Because I didn't listen to either sides media and looked up the relevant laws of the time myself. Laws which showed that Obama would have been considered an American citizen regardless of being born in Hawaii or Kenya or Uranus for that matter.

    Biden's was settled quickly because Congress got involved and settled it. They never did that with Obama. Which is why for many people, ignorant people, its still a question. The ONLY reason to tie it to race is for political gain. So no, not relevant.
     
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    No. But it is curious that's where you went. Hmmm
     
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    Oh no the government manipulated me into learning how to read and write, and how to speak a common language. How will I cope if I am able to express myself and make a good life for myself because the government manipulated me into thinking reading is good for me. Such vile propaganda as the basics of arithmetic are so dastardly that anyone can hardly stomach basic addition and subtraction. Woah is to me!

    Oh no the press did it too! How dare they compact information down into bite sized bits of information for a lay audience? Who is to blame for the fact that they need to make money too? Such vile dastardly propaganda as "other side bad" because they know it will get them money... which they need to survive as well. I'm not making saying this is a good argument, but what I'm saying is if you're upset at the press for doing it's job, make sure you know why the press is doing this to begin with. If the marketplace of ideas doesn't mean good ideas rise why bad ideas sink (like what we have now), then what will you replace it with to fix the problem?
     
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    More uninformed blind partisan nonsense.

    "Although it has been most often used to describe Nazi Germany and Stalin’s Soviet Union, the word “totalitarian”—totalitarismo—was first used in the context of Italian fascism. Invented by one of his critics, the term was adopted with enthusiasm by Benito Mussolini, and in one of his speeches he offered what is still the best definition of the term: “Everything within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state.”
    THE ATLANTIC, The Meaning of 'Totalitarian' Anne Applebaum talks to us like we're stupid. And it's awesome.", By TA-NEHISI COATES, MARCH 26, 2014. (emphasis mine)
    https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/03/the-meaning-of-totalitarian/359615/

    Trump actually shrank the size and power of the state. The opposite of Mussolini's Fascism.
    Trump was an anti-Fascist. Sadly, his resistance to the power of the state was ineffective.
     
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    It is clear that you do not understand the meaning of the word propaganda.
     
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    It's true, I don't understand it the way you do. And I probably never will.
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You will not get an argument from me.

    I think this is a perfect example of the expression "wearing your ignorance as if it were a badge of honor".
     
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    Kranes56 Banned

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    More like "wearing my understanding of solipsism as a badge of honor", but to each their own I suppose.
     
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    Hillary was Guilty of breaking State Dept. protocol.She On Her Own decided to
    forgo a State dept. E-Mail and Communique server system to protect Top Level
    Classified Data.She set up her own server at her residence { the bathroom ? }
    to keep to herself { away from Governmental wandering eyes } affairs of State.
    She repeatedly lied about her E-mails.There were many that included classified
    Information.She Defied subpoenas and then refused to offer over 33,ooo of her
    E-mails.She then used BleachBit to delete from her private server { Not authorized
    for use as a Secretary-of-State } thousands of her Improper E-mails.
    She faced absolutely No disciplanary action for this outrageous display.
    Trumps only improper action { whether as a candidate or Potus } was
    to Tell it Like It Is as far as what he believes and how others behave.
    Plus he had a habit of Boasting.
    We had 3 years of Lies by the MSM and Democrats as far as - Russian Collusion -
    use of a Quid Pro Quo { basis for his Impeachment } and desperate need to make
    a border wall.
    Trump's only sin was not one of Omission but Commission.
    He loved to express his voice { Opinion }.He also gave the WH Press plenty
    of access { mostly with pointed questions } and seldom with any of his
    notable accomplishments.
    It had widely been established that Today a Free Press no longer exists.
    Journalism died the last decade.Under Obama's watch.
    Just like according to a census { 2014-2015 } That our Middle Class
    Fell into Decline for the first time in Modern American History.
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Corruption is one thing. Manipulation of news to push an agenda desired by the broadcast company is another.

    In some cases, cherry picking the information presented, others mis-representing the information, and sometimes just flat out lying.

    I don't understand how some people can be so naive and gullible to believe that Network A does this to their viewership, while Network B (whom the person follows) does not. It takes a tremendous amount of partisan blinders to hold that position... but here we are.
     
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    I always miss you Foolardi when I go on my breaks. Want to keep talking about this?
     
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    Because if we look at different ideas of how the press should work, we see that different networks don't always do this compared to other students. So what explains this?
     
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    LOL...The two concepts are not related even remotely, but you go ahead and do you.
     
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    There is your fatal flaw LMAO.. PEOPLE LIE, as in my case i tell them to go screw themselves "Not that polite either"
     
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    So as you understand solipsism, wearing that ignorance as a badge of honor.
     

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