Why is there an orchestrated effort to normalize and legitimaize homosexuality?

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  1. slackercruster

    slackercruster Banned

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    France, England, US...why is there an orchestrated worldwide effort to normalize and legitimaize homosexuality?

    They say most people don't care. 'Don't care' does not make a thing right.

    The most surprising thing to me is how CA banned homosexual marriage. You would think CA would be on top of the list to embrace the homosexuals to be married.
     
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    California is about a 51-49 democrat Republican state.

    But there isn't any orchestrated effort, the gays don't all meet up and scheme against the straights, the push was started as many cultural movements were, a minority group was being pushed and pushed, then they pushed back.

    When kids are committing suicide because they just can't live in a world that doesn't accept them, its time for a cultural movement.
     
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    Polydectes, suicide victims chose to kill themselves. It's undebatable truth that if a person's a victim of childhood sex abuse, then it's more likely he or she will do gay/lesbian conduct repeating what he learned-those who deny are either dishonest, delusional or both. Many gays were victims of homosexual rapes when they were boys such as by gay priests. Gay/lesbian behaviors are bad in and of itself and transexuals are worse. They must abolish sex changes as those are maimings.

    Gay/lesbian sexual behaviors are useless & inferior. Childhood sex abuse especially homosexual rape is a major cause of gay behaviors because boys who are homosexually raped are more likely to do gay behaviors in adulthood. I've never heard a straight person blame childhood sex abuse for reason a man is married to a woman & has kids with her but I've heard some gays & lesbians blame bad things such as childhood sex abuse. We must search for curing homosexuality & transexuality. Make it a crime to do sex changes.
     
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    I've heard that canard befote also, frankly carries no weight. sorry I am NOT interested in false concepts. thank you anyway
     
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    Polydectes, as I've said many times, gay/lesbian groups are not to be trusted and transexuals are worse. What I say is right but Polydectes, it's your right to be it's you're right to be dishonest, delusional or both on the gay/lesbian topic because it's truth that if a person's a victim of childhood sex abuse, then it's more likely he or she will do gay/lesbian conduct repeating what he learned-those who deny are either dishonest, delusional or both. There possibly is another cause such as gay/lesbian birth defect, but then they must cure this gene. I know I'm repeating but saying the same thing will get the same answers by me & you're not saying much that I haven't already thought about.
     
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    If it was world wide, why is it only a few countries relatively? These are just individual groups pushing for gay marriage. That's it.
     
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    Why would we want a section of our society hiding their true identity?

    I accept the fact that there are homosexuals in the world. It is no big deal.
     
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    it's not truth, if you put your fingers in your ears and close your eyes and say it enough time to believe it, that doesn't make me believe it.

    sorry just because you say something doesn't make it fact.
     
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    Yeah because a big group of homosexuals is that untrustworthy, it's hardly like they have a massive hidden scheme they're pretty open about what they want usually from what I saw was fair and equal treatment under the law.

    It's strange people rarely take their own advice.

    Could you cite a study showing the actual percentages and how much correlation there is?

    It's possible yes but shouldn't it be up to the individual if they want to cure themselves of anything or in this case change their sexual orientation? I'm sure some people would want to so I personally believe if someone wanted to become straight and they could then they should have that right also if there was a way to make homosexuals into heterosexuals then wouldn't the opposite also be an option for others? Though I have never been fully convinced on how we currently define sexuality anyway since it's a very complex subject and probably too complicated for us to fully understand right now.

    Couldn't of wrote it better myself.
     
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    That is because there has been an "orchestrated effort" over the last few centuries, to foster abjectly unnecessary fear, hatred and bigotry toward PEOPLE who are 'homosexual'.

    Of course, the above likely would not have been acceptable for ALL time, and history PLUS the era we live within illustrates the fact that what I suggest is reality.

    That's why.
     
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    Skeptical Heretic & Polydectes, it's truth that gay/lesbian behaviors are often result of childhood sex abuse especially homosexual rape in youth-that's truth and those who deny this are dishonest, delusional or both. Gay/lesbian groups are not to be trusted. The posters who dispute me are usually gays & lesbians. Transexuals are worse as the sex change mutilation and the hormones damage the body & brains. Make it a crime to do sex changes. With gays/lesbians, no matter why they take part in gay/lesbian behaviors, it's best for them to be celibate until cure is found for this. Gay/lesbian behaviors are comparable to drug junkyism.
     
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    Answer: Unbelief

    Romans 1 24-32

    24Wherefore God also gavethem upto uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:25Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshippedand served the creature more than the Creator , who isblessed for ever. Amen.26For this cause God gavethem upunto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burnedin their lust one toward another ; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receivingin themselves that recompence of their error which was meet . 28And even as they didnot like to retainGod in their knowledge, God gavethem overto a reprobate mind, to do those things which arenot convenient ; 29 Being filled withall unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,30Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:32Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things areworthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
     
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    That makes you both reasonable and normal.
     
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    You keep believing as you do; but try also proving that what you believe is 'reality' (or even the ONLY way to view human sexuality).

    You'll fail.
     
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    Yea, I am also very curious, apparently world's powers that be have decided it is a way to go. But what is a goal? To reduce population, to further enslave white heterosexual males. I can't figure it out.
    There is no logic in government sponsored pederasty, but it is pushed very hard in every country.
    They pressure it to the point that politicians are willing to violate free speech laws, for sole purpose to provide special rights for homosexuals.
     
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    There is no decent "logic" in homophobic perspectives of human sexuality, but they are proliferated as if the very survival of mankind depends upon the same.

    Meanwhile, IDIOTS are out here ignoring the very environment which supports life on this planet. :(
     
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    Because that is human nature, especially among males. Genetic pre-disposition and all. Just like being gay. Anti-homosexual bigotry is as natural as being gay is and can't just be trained out of people.

    No one is ignoring the environment except in China.
     
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    No- it is taught. And it can be trained out of people quite easily.
     
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    Leekohler2, gays, lesbians & transexuals are not to be trusted. It's right to be 'bigoted' against homosexuality, lesbianism and transexuality (worse than gays) just as it's right to be 'bigoted' against drug junkyism and cocaina smoking. It's best for gays/lesbians to be celibate even if orientation doesn't change
     
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    Since gay/lesbian groups go to schools to push their views on others, then it's only fair opposing views be given though it offends gay/lesbian groups. Sex change maimings must be criminalized. With gays/lesbians, let's have these things said to reply to gay/lesbian groups. Harvey Bernard Milk and Methew Wayne Shepard are 2 icons for gay groups but both mistreated others. With Harvey B. Milk gay/lesbian groups such as Laramie Project, Shepard Foundation’s Executive President Jason Marsden (Fartsden) and Journalist Tiffany Edwards Hunt of Big Island Chronicle see nothing wrong with Harvey B. Milk committing homosexual statutory rape on a 16 year old boy and there’s a holiday after him in California.

    Not pleading the case of the 2 who killed Shepard in October 1998 but Methew Wayne Shepard a drug junky who mixed Ecstasy with antidepressants. Before that October 1998 day, Methew Wayne Shepard was regarded by many including friends as moody, obnoxious and selfish who even rudely cut in line in front of handciapped while shopping. Other news is that Methew Wayne Shepard chose Univeristy of Wyoming out of all colleges but then insulted the college and Laramie. In August 1998, 2 months before his killing Metthaw Wayne Shepard falsely accused a man of a crime which was disproven by medical tests because nothing had happened. Excuses made by Shepard’s friends and family is his depression, PTSD, etc. Truth is before Methew Wayne Shepard was killed he was viewed as obnoxious, moody and selfish but after he has killed by 2 men, then he got hero worship as Harvey B. Milk has gotten when both were bad people who mistreated others and in the end were killed. Gay/lesbian groups be it former cop Greg Miraglia of the Shepard Foundation, Jason Marsden of Shepard Foundation & Big Island Chronicle's Tiffany Edwards Hunt who farts in front of her 2 kids all see nothing wrong with Harvey B. Milk committing homosexual statutory rape, etc.
     
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    No. I grew up with them my whole life, know lots them and know what wonderful peopole they can be. Doesn't change my discomfort level, especially when they make passes at me.

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    No. I grew up with them my whole life, know lots them and know what wonderful peopole they can be. Doesn't change my discomfort level, especially when they make passes at me.
     
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    Unwanted passes make people uncomfortable no matter who they are. That has nothing to do with homophobia. And please, do all gay people you now make passes at you?
     
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    SiliconMagician don't call it 'passes' as that's a mild word to describe harassment, assault/battery, etc. the gay is doing. If those gay who are harassing you such as by sending you emails after you told him to stop, then report them to the police because you don't know the gay's history, such as has he done this or other violence to others in past. These cases unpredictable-harassment or assault & battery such as 'crotch grabbing' may not be the only crime. If the homosexual is high on drugs (many gays drugjunkies) or has violent history (violent propensity) then it's possible the homosexual is trying to commit a more violent crime such as homosexual rape. Many cases where homosexuals committed more violent deeds after the homosexual did indecent exposure, email harassment (if that is your case) or assault and battery. With gay panic, let's say a man kills a gay in a lot after the gay repeatedly proposed to him after the man said no and or after the gay pinched the man's butt or groin against man's will (many gay bashings happen after the gay committed this assault/battery) and the man's defense lawyer raises gay panic defense. Defense will say the gay committed crimes such as indecent exposure, assault/battery and so on. Many cases where homosexuals committed more violent deeds after the homosexual did indecent exposure, assault and battery.For the charge to be dismissed or for an acquittal to happen with gay panic, the defense has to make a credible case that the gay was attempting something more violent. If the homosexual has a history of attacking other men in the lot after he harassed them, then a case can be made that the gay was trying to do something more violent as he had done to others before him-jury decides if man used reasonable force.

    For gay panic defense to have best chance of success, the defense should try to find out criminal and drug history of the homosexual and the defense should try to subpoena the homosexual's medical records to find out if the homosexual is a junky and more importantly if the homosexual has a history of violently attacking other men after he proposed to them. These things can make the difference between getting the charged dismissed by the prosecutor or if it goes to trial an acquittal and getting convicted. Anyhow RightToLife, I hope you are no longer getting harassing emails from him, but report him to the police because he has no right to be emailing you repeatedly after you asked him to stop and you don't know what his history is. Transexuals are worse & many transexuals get their brains ruined by the hormone shots which has been linked to higher rates of sex abuse crimes committed by transexuals. 1 doesn't need to be an expert to know the hormone shots damage the body. Make it a crime to do sex changes. Abolish sex changes.
     
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    That's nonsense. Got any scientific data to prove your claim?

    You're wrong again; but that is a topic for another thread.
     
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    Whatever science says, there is no justification of special rights for gays.
     

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