I'm questioning do you know why I feel that way. Also being pro-life doesn't mean you are against women making their own medical decisions, or reproductive decisions either for that matter.
Women have the right to control their own bodies, but not if an innocent child's life is at stake. If women want to control their own bodies and avoid unwanted pregnancies, then they should chose to not have sex.
Well for me it is about killing a human life. I feel that life deserves every opportunity to develop and live outside the womb as you and I have. The only times abortion should be considered is danger to the mother, or fetus, as one life is better then two and if that life is only gonna be a couple days of agonizing pain, it is the right thing to do. Also if the fetus is already dead, get it out of the mother. Also rape and incest, as these are the two times where the mother had no consent to even have the sex http://lightoftruth.tumblr.com/post/12935111919/what-science-tells-us-about-the-unborn one link http://biology.franklincollege.edu/Bioweb/Biology/course_p/bioethics/When does human life begin.pdf another link also the heart starts beating around day 22 and so on and so on Well there is a lot more to making medical decisions, then abortion. Also she can decide whether, or not to have sex in most cases. Though not consent for pregnancy, it is one of the risks involved in having sex. I don't believe in abortion as a form birth control. no ti doesn't prevent a pregnancy, but it ends one and the result is the same.
This is the blog of a "Christian woman." As far as I can tell, not a scientist, nor expert of any kind except for her personal version of Christianity. You said you were not religious, but you have obviously been influenced by religion. This is actually a link that I have used many times when someone claims that their anti-abortion beliefs are based on science. Did you read the following paragraph from your link? Current Scientific Views of When Human Life Begins Current perspectives on when human life begins range from fertilization to gastrulation to birth and even after. Here is a brief examination of each of the major perspectives with arguments for and against each of the positions. Contemporary scientific literature proposes a variety of answers to the question of when human life begins. That means there is no scientific consensus regarding the point at which one becomes a human being. In every case, pregnancy/childbirth is a risk to a woman's health and life. Do you have the right to force a woman by law to take that risk?
By current law no I do not. However not every pregnancy ends in death or health issues, every abortion ends in death. Also in that blog it says science and text books back it up in the middle. and as far as her views on Christianity, the stuff on the right I paid no attention to. And in the other one yes no scientific consensus, but one of them is indeed fertilization. That one makes the most sense to me as that is when it has all the DNA of a human being, it is alive, it is growing. A human being from the start. Again religion is not why I feel the way I do. Its a human thing, not a god thing I have other links too dealing with development and such
Good question. Two wrongs don't make a right. Innocent children shouldn't be punished for the crimes of their fathers.
That's how I feel too, but can accept those two exceptions, even if I do not support them........ Also danger to the mother, or fetus....or if the fetus is already dead. I can accept and support those exceptions. Anything else I can not accept willingly, or support. Forced to accept it by law.
I meant, morally, do you have the right to impose your beliefs on a woman, and force her to risk her health and life? But EVERY pregnancy carries the risk of health and life issues. It is for the woman to decide if she is willing to take that risk. This is what I meant by propaganda, and it is meaningless because it is only your belief that abortion ends significant life. Science cannot be said to support anti-abortion views because there is no consensus among scientists. And yes, there are text books written by pro-life authors, and sometimes text books are only interpreted to support one's position. You did pay attention to the text of her blog which is biased and cherry-picked information. Every cell in one's body has DNA, is alive, and growing. That isn't what makes one a human being. Then choose your sources carefully.
yes I should morally be able to tell a woman to take responsibility of the life inside of her. She took the risk when she had the sex. Her risking her health and life is asking far less of her, then allowing her to to kill the human life inside of her. A risk is not a guarantee. Abortion is a guarantee death No propaganda at all. Every abortion ends in a death. though I did not say the life was significant, every human life is significant. It's not gonna suddenly turn into a frog, or anything else. It is a human being from day 1. Yes every cell has DNA, but the zygote has the complete DNA that makes the human being. form day 1 the complete DNA is there. again no consensus on whether it is a human being, but homo sapiens are human beings. The complete DNA of homo sapiens is in the zygote
Are you saying that engaging in risky behavior obligates one to suffer the consequences of that action?
I'm not sure if I understand you correctly, but i think you are asking if one engages in an act should they accept the consequences associated with it. The answer is yes.
Because, Steve, if a reckless driver has an accident, he accepts the consequences by admitting fault. No one would deny him medical treatment because he "took the risk." Why would a pregnant woman be any different? Risk-taking is not a reason to be denied medical intervention.
I asked if you have the moral right to FORCE, not "tell," a woman to risk her health and life. You may believe abortion is killing a human being, but if she doesn't believe that, what gives your beliefs more authority than her beliefs? Isn't her opinion just as valid as your opinion?
Not necessarily. To declare that one is "personally" opposed to abortion, but that one wishes for it to remain legal, is neither morally nor intellectually consistent. The only reasonable opposition to the act of abortion is animated by the (objective) belief that a fetus is a full-fledged human being; and that his or her killing is, therefore, unacceptable in a civilized society. To pontificate that one is "personally" opposed to abortion, but that one does not wish to "impose" that belief upon others, through the force of law, is roughly tantamount to a person, in mid-nineteenth-century America, having declared that he was "personally" opposed to the institution of slavery, but that he would not wish to "impose" that belief upon others by taking legal steps to abolish the practice.
Right now is doesn't the law's opinion is the authority. My belief is just that. Her opinion is just as valid to her, as mine is to me, but to her my opinion may mean nothing. I take opinions of others into consideration and come to my own conclusions. Was not long ago when I was pro-choice. Never was in favor of abortion. now I'm pro-life with exceptions. I'm not as strict as some pro-lifers are in what I can accept
What was it that compelled you to become Anti-Abortion? Keeping in mind that very few people on this planet are "In Favor" of abortion, though they may not be opposed to it.
I guess never in favor of abortion was a stretch, as a teenager I supported abortion.. I became Anti-Abortion about the same time I became an adult, so roughly 16 years ago, however remained pro-choice in my views, until around age 25 about 10 years ago. It was through conversations with others and seeing ultrasounds that I switched to pro-life. Never really took a big interest in the subject though at the time. Recently I have taken a higher interest on the subject(within the past couple months) and have modified my pro-life stance from no exceptions to the current ones I can accept today. I have begun to do some research, debate the subject of abortion and feel I am much better informed today, then I ever have been before.
Very similar to my own story...I suppose the only real difference being my belief that I do not have the right to tell someone else that my opinion trumps theirs.., particularly when it would effect them so personally. I hate the Idea of abortion, But that does not mean I am entitled to legislate my dislike.
If every Pro-Lifer were to follow your lead (Respect), this would not be the "Hot Debate" it seems to be.
