Why its not JUST A FORM

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Turtledude, Dec 20, 2017.

  1. Vegas giants

    Vegas giants Banned

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    Not gun laws. Laws. You were quite clear. Gun laws are not special. You said laws really only affect law-abiding citizens and only inconveniences us, it does little to criminals.
     
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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    In Animal Farm, the totalitarians were on the inside. They came from the socialists not from the outside. The pigs were the heads of the revolution, who soon became the totalitarians. Try again.
     
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    wrong as usual

    one of the things that gun banners don't understand is the duality of gun ownership

    they claim they want to disarm criminals and disarming criminals will certainly lead to a decrease in violent crimes. However, most gun control schemes are far more likely to disarm good citizens which leads to an increase in violent crimes. SO unlike most laws that might be ineffectual, most liberal gun control schemes actually increase the very thing the proponents claim they want to reduce
     
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    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    An evasive BS answer. I maintain you are part of the problem, your positions would deny people from being able to defend themselves, in essence, creating a population of victims in waiting.
     
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    You are welcome to your opinion
     
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    I find that gun banners who pretend to be pro gun have no understanding of the issues
     
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    Oh god. Where should they come from? Duh
     
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    The point is that inevitably socialism becomes totalitarianism. You were the one they claimed the totalitarians came from the outside. Here's your exact quote: "It shows how socialism works perfectly until a totalitarian comes in and destroys it." (emphasis added).
     
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    You mean like in almost all of Scandinavia? Lol
     
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    Scandinavian socialism works because Scandinavians are involved. They are discipline people, and their culture is cohesive enough that people are shamed into not milking the system. That, and Norway has plenty of petro-dollars coming in. \

    Also, some countries in Scandinavia are scaling things back.
    https://www.thelocal.se/20140121/swedens-welfare-state-most-scaled-back-in-nordics
     
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    So it is not inevitable. Thanks. Lol
     
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    still stuck on calling those of us who don't buy your bs "gun banners"?
     
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    Right back at you buddy
     
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    Vegas, do you know what a C&R license is ?
    You should get one, from BATF, it costs
    $ 25 and is good for 5 years.
    It allows you to purhase C&R eligible firearms delivered right to your door.

    You also can trade C&R firearms with any other C&R license holder, anywhere in the U.S.
     
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    are you serious?

    you've been calling folks "gun banners" and "bannerhoids" for years
     
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    Why should they have to acquire a state license, when they are licensed to engage in the business by the federal government?
     
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    $$$
     
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    Would not such qualify as a violation of interstate commerce under the current reading of the commerce clause? Perhaps government can levy federal charges against the state of California in this particular matter?
     
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    Well if it waddles, it quack-eth, it flies South for the Winter, call it a Duck.

    And if it asks for gun restrictions and gun bans affecting only law abiding citizens and is a pain in the gluteus maximus,


    Call it a bannerhoid....

    Only fair play.....
     
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    Better question is: why shouldn't they acquire a state license, since they are conducting business within the state.
     
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    Burden of proof and citations required,
    Disambiguation requested.
     
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    Disambiguation denied.
     
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    On the basis that not every state feels the need to engage in such nonsense. Requiring a state license to engage in a business that is regulated and licensed under federal law serves no purpose that justifies the endeavor.
     

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