Why Love a god who creates hell ?

Not only is this maniac not satisfied with torturing people whilst they live with all manner of suffering and unfairness..
unfairness from the start in the fact of who are your parents...what country your born in and so on..

He also creates a Hell..

a destination no sane person could fathom let alone create...

woe is us if this guy is real


I declare martial law and make it illegal to tell children about this maniac

 

"god created hell" is perhaps the wrong point of view. God created the possibillity to say "no" to him. If my wife would say suddenly "no" to me ("No"="I don't love you any longer") then I would live in a hell and I assume she would also live in a hell in this case. I would say the absence of love is hell. But even in case we would live like Philemon and Baucis one of us had to stay alone for a longer while after the death of the other part - so the other one has to suffer. But I - and hopefully she too - would not like to miss our love. Love is worth this price. To suffer - to feel hell - is only a result of a lack of love in this world here for hopefully only a short time of our existance.

http://youtu.be/j0JiEglvJic

 

"god created hell" is perhaps the wrong point of view. God created the possibillity to say "no" to him. If my wife would say suddenly "no" to me ("No"="I don't love you any longer") then I would live in a hell and I assume she would also live in a hell in this case. I would say the absence of love is hell. But even in case we would live like Philemon and Baucis one of us had to stay alone for a longer while after the death of the other part - so the other one has to suffer. But I - and hopefully she too - would not like to miss our love. Love is worth this price. To suffer - to feel hell - is only a result of a lack of love in this world here for hopefully only a short time of our existance.

http://youtu.be/j0JiEglvJic

 

Hell is simply a "seperation from 'god'". If you think about it, Atheists should embrace going to hell. An eternal seperation from the religious nut-jobs imagianry friends sounds like paradise to me.

 

God is such a loving God that he only created it for those that want to go there.

 

assuming that everyone who has sinned will be there seems to me the place to be since all my friends and family will be there...

 

most definitely a psychopath based on the evidence on hand...kills hundreds of thousands in single twitch of his pinkie finger with earthquakes and tsunami's, and then awards superbowl wins and grammy awards to millionaires...yeah that's some awesome god they got...

 

This is contingent upon the premise that the bible is the word of God, it produces it's own paradox.....

If your wife didn't truly love you, would you be able to love her in the capacity that you currently do now?
To give your love to her in this capacity when she couldn't accept it in that way, you would be doing nothing more than denying yourself!!!!
Now, if she did love you in that capacity but for some senseless reason said no to it, is she saying no to you? It still does not change the fact that she lacks that capacity, in order for you to give your love to her in that way, and the only reality that exists is that she is denying herself!!!!
In both examples, it is nothing more than denial of self!!!!

You have to love yourself first before you can give it to another, when such an act is reciprocal finding it's counterpart..... It becomes obvious and there is no question!
This is what unconditional love looks like, what it feels like, how it acts!!!!!
This is not what is represented in the bible......

Isaiah 64
4For since the beginning of the world men have not heard, nor perceived by the ear, neither hath the eye seen, O God, beside thee, what he hath prepared for him that waiteth for him.

5Thou meetest him that rejoiceth and worketh righteousness, those that remember thee in thy ways: behold, thou art wroth; for we have sinned: in those is continuance, and we shall be saved.

6But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.

7And there is none that calleth upon thy name, that stirreth up himself to take hold of thee: for thou hast hid thy face from us, and hast consumed us, because of our iniquities.

8But now, O LORD, thou art our father; we are the clay, and thou our potter; and we all are the work of thy hand.



This doesn't talk about loving self in order to love, it is about loving God, loving Jesus..... Without it, we are nothing but filthy rags!!!!!!!

God sounds like a disgusting jealous beast that forces himself upon another in an abuse of words; why would I love an example of a God that rapes the mind?

 

If you truly loved someone and could see that it was their own self denial that prevented them from loving, you would nurture them to love themselves, not tell them they are a filthy rag for not loving you!!!!
It's absolutely disgusting!

 

Exodus 20
5Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

6And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

Jealousy is an act of ignorance and a demonstration of a mind that lacks love for self.

 

Take note that this "hell" is of your own creation.
God had nothing to do with it, nor did your wife.
You had expectations that didn't happen.

 

According to the Bible most people go to hell. Even Jesus spent time there. The good news is that it's only temporary and everyone will get out on Judgment Day. After that you will either get tossed into the lake of fire or else kick back in the giant golden cube.

 

It was an example. I'm not able to remember or to expect something what never had happened in my life nor what never will happen in my life. God loved me always - he's loving me now - and I know he will always love me.

http://youtu.be/a3mJ4k_BfAk
http://youtu.be/IduEpMoe1cE
http://youtu.be/YLJrrQl98jE

 

I'll be joining you as well..maybe satan will cut us a break now and then and we can get a keg..all the hot and nasty sluts will be down there too..lets make it a party..

 

I just love these "God is a cruel bastard" threads. As if God would make life for us utopian out of love. A life in a utopia isn't worth living. We define our existence by pain and suffering more than happiness.

The idea of hell is about eternal justice. That a person who was exceedingly evil in life, and got away with it through their entire existence, will have to pay a price after that existence ends is not a bad idea IMO. Why shouldn't people be punished for the wrongs they committed in life and got away with?

 

Hot and nasty sluts huh?

The reality is that there is nothing like a beautiful woman that knows how to respect and carry herself, who also contains a beauty in the expression of the mind that is always engaging..... When you have realized the magnificence of a woman like this, all those 'hot and nasty sluts' look like empty and sad beings dancing upon foolish strings.....
The reality is that if there was any honesty in what you have said beyond the disgrace alone of saying it, you are also an extremely empty, sad and lonely man.
We create our own hell, every moment that we deny our own beauty!!!!!!
Life is unequivocally perfect at showing us who we are, such brilliance doesn't need a threat or a promise!

 

Why hate a God who creates Heaven?

 

If it is an idea - but I doubt that hell is only an idea. Although I nearly never think about hell my spiritual 'experience' tells me that the problem "hell" is not an easy problem. For example someone asked me once how to punish Hitler and I calculated about 20 billion years for compensation of the lost human lifetime because of his evil deeds0. But hell is much more worse: It could be indeed impossible to get someone out of hell for eternities. I'm not happy with "hell" - I would be more happy if only a purgatorial fire would exist - but I have nevertheless to warn everyone: Whatever will happen - it's not good to go to hell! And I fear everyone is on the way to hell if s/he likes to send someone to hell. Hell could be more than only an idea. Perhaps it's a kind of negative self fullfilling prophecy. Who is not thinking to be in danger to go to hell is maybe in danger really to got to hell. We have to take care on our steps.

We are not able live without justice - but nowhere in this world here is justice. In this point of view hell would be indeed a kind of hope. No justice without hell. ... hmm ... Perhaps we need an imagination of hell because we should not create a hell here in this world. For sure Hitler and Stalin thought not only a little about the possibility to go to hell. Otherwise they had not done what they had done. Perhaps people who are not believing in hell are in danger to create hell. Could be interestsing to know the opinion of Mr. Anders Behring-Breivick about hell. I'm nearly sure he's sure that he will not go to hell. On the other side - he's not able to repair or to undo what he had done. He has to live with the irreversible facts of his deeds now. Whatever this means concrete for his life here - and for his afterlife.

If you like to see only the pragmatic way - without believing in a spiritual reality - then the belief in the spiritual possiblity "hell" would also give us the chance to be more merciful with criminals. It's really difficult to say. It seems to me for examole everyone who hears about only one of the concrete deeds of the mass murderer Mr. Anders Behring-Breivik suffers more than he is suffering. He's without any empathy for the teenagers he had murdered. He's a good example that it is impossible to reach justice in this world here. But we need justice. That's indeed a great burden. Whatelse to do than to pray for his victims? Whatelse to do then to try to heal their souls by suffering on the own free will with them - how Jesus suffered with us on the cross? If Anders Behring-Breivick has not the empathy for his victims we have to have the empathy for the survivors. We have to take their broken hearts in our own hearts and must try to heal them. But who is able to reach the heart of Mr. Anders Behring-Breivik? ... As easy it is to know what to do - love is the only way - always - as diffictul is to say what really is happening with all souls in the night of the soul of Mr. Anders Behring-Breivick who made himselve to an entrypoint for the evil into the world. Hell is soon be able to become a conretet reality in our world here if we don't care. We are happy that we don't know how often someone saved our lifes so we never were part of such a massacre. The good deeds are often invisible but hell is maybe indeed visible.

http://youtu.be/k1Etruh7Ch8

 

give me a break!
I'm an extremely happy person..I'll bet ya I'm twice as happy as you..stick with the same old bag for 50 years and you tell me just how happy you'll be..it'd be a lie..
sluts are people too and it might surprise you just how well they carry themselves and how smart they are..have you ever bothered to find out?? No, because yur insecure and scared..
beauty and beauty of the mind is in the eye of the beholder and some of the sweetest girls I've ever dated where sluts..what's wrong with a girl wanting sex with multiple partners?
you my friend have been reading to many romance novels..

 

God didn't create hell for humans. And I'm not even sure he created it. I do know that it was meant for the fallen angels. If you choose your side poorly then you can join satan there. Because satan loves company.

 

And what's with the outrage over a hell. If you don't believe in God then this should be of no concern to you.

you're just a little scared though aren't ya?

 

you want others maybe yourself to suffer endlessly for dong some things maybe things you don’t like that would work out well

 

hmm seems i have a different idea of what hell is then others the just no god hell doesn’t sound bad but we are not free to choose not to love god there is no known god for me to love or reject just different version of gods the religious speak about I can only choose not to love the Mormon versions of god or the catholic version of god or the Muslim versions of god etcetera no god has ever communicated to me openly and I have no way of knowing if any exist at all

 

You just don't accept the general revelation of Romans 1

 

well this

18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.

and this

26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

is bull crap