http://erika.bachiochi.com/docs/HowAbortionHurtsWomen.pdf "Several studies analyzed in a landmark 2003 article in the Obstetrical and Gynecological Survey show that induced abortion also increases the risk of placenta previa by 50 percent and doubles the risk of pre-term birth in later pregnancies. Placenta previawhere the placenta implants at the bottom of the uterus and covers the cervixplaces the lives of both mother and child at risk in that later pregnancy. Pre-term birth is associated with low birth-weight babies, and very low birth-weight babies (those born between 20 and 27 weeks) have 38 times the risk of having cerebral palsynot to mention medical costs 28 times greaterthan full-term babies. According to Dr. Byron Calhoun, director of the Antenatal Diagnostic Center at Rockford Memorial Hospital in Illinois, approximately 30 percent of pre-term birthswhich now account for 6 percent of all birthsare attributable to prior abortions. But thats just the beginning. The link between abortion and breast cancer has attracted much media attention. It is important to understand that there are two different mechanisms by which abortion can increase the risk of breast cancerone is beyond dispute, the other hotly contested. It is now common medical knowledge that a full-term pregnancy, especially before the age of 32, acts as a protective mechanism against breast cancer. Thus, research shows that teenagers with a family history of breast cancer who have abortions before their 18th birthday have an incalculably high risk of developing breast cancer. Indeed, an abortion clinic in Portland, Oregon, recently settled a lawsuit with a 19-year-old woman who claimed the clinic had failed to inform her of this link between abortion and breast cancerespecially since shed indicated a family history of breast cancer on her intake form. Approximately one-fifth of women procuring abortions are teenagers, and half are younger than 25 years old. The risk of breast cancer is high for those young women who are delaying their first full-term pregnancy through abortion, yet such women are rarely informed of this indisputable link." But don't let FACTS get in the way of your position! Abortion is phsyically harmful to women, and emotionally devastating!
Again, so? Women still have the right to decide what to do. ( and does bother you ) """It is now common medical knowledge that a full-term pregnancy, especially before the age of 32, acts as a protective mechanism against breast cancer.""" If you want to play Daddy/god to them all then you should advocate that all women be forced to have a baby before they're 32 so they don't get breast cancer(as if you'd care)...
And people like you are still free to try to influence them to do something that will harm them, and kill their children!
I have never tried to influence any woman to do anything about HER pregnancy....I have no Control Freak Issues.....
No, I am not trying to force BY LAW, or any other way, my opinion on others. I give my opinion and unlike Anti-Choicers I do NOT try to force women to do anything one way or the other about their pregnancy through law... THAT is forcing...and I'm sure you won't be able to tell the difference...
Please. Your understanding of the law is inadequate at best. homicide law lies in the principal of ownership. Way back when killing someone was not illegal as long as you compensated the person's "owner" (king, properyty holder, etc.) I own my life and in taking that you have deprived the "owner" of property. A woman owns her life and her body just as you own yours. I could easily solve this problem by castrating all males of women who want abortions. you good with that?
I wouldn't even bother entertaining the person you are debating with, you will just get the same as everyone else does who tries to, it will be along the lines of "your an idiot", or "It's obviously ... " or words to that effect.
True but, as demonstrated by my response to him, he's once again demonstrated only his own ignorance.
Yes he did that in almost all of my debates with him, still didn't stop him posting the same items as fact elsewhere, in the end I gave up .. it just wasn't worth the effort, and most people can see that his posts are pretty inane.
except often times they are not really the ones making the decision. Women are coerced, threatened, emotionally blackmailed, and sometimes in the case of underaged girls even physically forced by their family to get an abortion. Abortion on demand opens the door to exploitation of women, as others pressure/force her to get an abortion. http://www.unfairchoice.info/intro.htm Proponents of elective abortion claim it's all about women's choice. But the ironic thing is that when the actual women are asked why they had an abortion, the most frequent response is: "I felt that I had no choice." [video=youtube;3KXuO4vmlZ4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KXuO4vmlZ4[/video]
Women should really the ones making the decision. Women are coerced, threatened, emotionally blackmailed, and sometimes in the case of underaged girls even physically forced by their family to go through the pregnancy and have the baby. Giving birth on demand opens the door to exploitation of women, as others pressure/force her to give birth.
care to explain the relevance? Or try to create some? - - - Updated - - - Not so much. You have been pinned down and simply cannot get up. This frustrates you, I get that. - - - Updated - - - Cannot refute any of my assertions again eh? That seems to be when you break out the idiocy like this gem of a post of yours I quoted.
Meanwhile people like you don't want to "influence" them.....you want to ORDER them and threaten them with criminal prosecution.... because you're so "pro-woman", right???
you wouldn't feel the need to post this if that were true. You guys have been trounced, but given your demonstrated lack of logic and reason, I am not sure you even realize that fact! - - - Updated - - - RRRRIIIGHT. That is why you chimed in. Pro aborts ARE anti WOMAN!!!! Its just a fact!
People like me simply want homicide law to have some continuity, logic, and reason associated with it. Allowing women to kill at will through abortion is incompatible with all other homicide law we have on the books today.
This woman was forced and coerced into having an abortion by her partner, the same partner you always say should 'get a say'. "Why doesn't the man get a say!?" You moan about this constantly and you also often throw out the idea that she should not even be allowed to make a choice in this matter because she is mentally incapable of doing so. Yet here you are posting a video about a woman who tells us of an experience where she was forced into having an abortion because her partner didn't want to have the baby and yet you already believe he should have a say and that she shouldn't be able to choose for herself to begin with because for some reason she is incapable of making a choice, so this sort of thing is exactly along the lines of your thinking. She did not want to have an abortion and she should not have been forced to have one, just like women should not be forced to give birth. Pro-choice, pro-autonomy! Stop forcing and coercing women to make a choice either way and let them make their own choices and do what they feel is right for themselves. Despite the misconceptions lifers accuse us of, we do not believe any woman should be forced to have an abortion if she believes it is morally reprehensible. We believe she should be free to make her own decisions.
So you respond with trite nothings and avoid his question. How typical of a bankrupt ideology such as yours.
Yet you argued you DON'T want it applied to women like churchmouse, who have had an abortion in the past. Yet NOW you want the law applied to other women. BTW, you still can't figure out how to get the EVIDENCE you'll need for a conviction. How are you going to prove a woman WAS pregnant...exactly??? - - - Updated - - - Dishonesty and intellectual bankruptcy on a philosophical level....is another reason abortion will NEVER be re-criminalized in this country. The "pro-lifers" can't explain how they'd do it....they just say "We'll...we'll...just DO it. That's all." Ask for details....they have nothing. Because they don't think past their little simplistic pap phrases like "Abortion is murder!!!!" or "We've got to save the babies!!!!!"
