Pointing out your hypocrisy is not demonization. It is just a statement of fact. That you do not care is sad. I do not believe that men should have the right to legally abort a child. You are confused. You want freedom of choice for women but want to deny men that same freedom. Hypocrisy You think it is ok for women to not make someone else responsible for the consequences of their actions, but God forbid someone tries to make a woman responsible for the consequences of her actions. Hypocrisy You are out of material and all you have left is demonization and false accusations.
You sure love the word hypocrite for others but fail to see your own. YOU are confused in your pathetic need to make sure poor little men never have a second of inequality. You want men to have the same right to figuratively "abort" a pregnancy by being able to sign away their responsibilities for the ensuing child so they have the same rights as women do. BUT then you want men to have the right to see/interact/connect with that child when it's older . That is NOT equal . When a woman has an abortion she never sees that child . The SAME should be true for the man who signs away his responsibilities for that child ( the equal act women getting an abortion), he should never see it again. You want equality? There it is. Babbling on about victimization and your " God forbid someone tries to make a woman responsible for the consequences of her actions." shows your innate hatred of women and the need to punish them , very Anti-Choice....
No, I dont like it. But thats the "progressive" ideology. progs have spent the past 6 years telling us how medical care is a social burden, no person is an island, etc. Ditto for pregnancy. If you want to have a kid and make me pay for it then you need my permission first.
You putting words in my mouth and thoughts in my head does not make me a hypocrite. You continually demonizing men and me does not make me a hypocrite. My beliefs are consistent and you have not shown otherwise. 1) The man does not have a say in whether or not an accidental pregnancy is carried to term and so he is not responsible for the consequences of that decision. 2) The woman does have the choice whether or not to continue the pregnancy (try and bring a baby into this world) Why should the man be responsible for the decision of a woman have a child ? I think all people (not just women) should be responsible for the consequences of their actions. How is this showing hatred for women ? It is you that can not seem to get through a post without saying something derogatory about men in general. What is more hilarious is that you suggest that not only is inequality ok, (for men) but that men should be forced to take responsibility for a decision that they did not make. Further you want the woman to be able to make someone else responsibility for her actions claiming this small inequality is OK. A) this is no a small inequality ... it is an abrogation of the rule of law, the Golden Rule, and just about every other rule of logic and fair play. B) you have provided no argument for why this inequality is somehow justified (other than painting the woman as a victim and then calling me anti-women for pointing this out) Just because you have no material or argument in support of your beliefs is no reason to resort to demonization and false accusations.
Irrelevant to the conversation. Sperm banks make it very clear that the donor has absolutely no right (or responsibilities) to children whom they father.
I am still of a mind that a man should always be financially responsible for "his" children. Children that he agreed to. To claim "That's your child" while genetically true, is not true in a possessive sense. The flaw in the "Take responsibility for your child" argument is that it is an assumed premise. The assumption is that genetic relationship to a child necessarily results in responsibility for that child. A sperm donor is genetically related to any children born as a result of his sperm donation. Should this sperm donor be made financially responsible for all these children ? There is no difference in genetic relationship. The law does not make this father responsible for these children. Why should a woman be able to force a child on a man any more than forcing a child on the sperm donor ?
Nice to know some posters like the fairy tale I wrote above. For instance, """If he agrees to have children he also must sign a legal document stating that he will assume 50% of parenting responsibilities including taking time off work to take his kids to the doctor, go to PTA meetings, soccer games, etc. Also bake cookies for treats for school, organize birthday parties on his own, and clean the toilets.""". LOL! ...no man would willingly ever agree to that. It would be FAIR but they haven't ever done it before and it would be hard to make legally binding so once more men are off the hook for any responsibility (which they believe is "fair" """It will strengthen women's right to have an abortion....if men can opt out there is NOTHING to stop women from doing the same , not even sicko, misogynistic control freaks.""" So how about FIRST the MEN who are fighting to take away women's rights and make their lives even more difficult STOP fighting to take away women's rights IF they want things to be FAIR.....when THAT stops maybe then we COULD have time to worry about men's little problems. Women have to fight constantly to protect their reproductive rights, men never have had to, and some think THAT'S fair. 'Nother fairy tale...fathers giving up their responsibilities NEVER contacting their children ..it SHOULD be against the law, afterall he signed a paper saying he didn't have a child ...so if he tries to contact a child that legally ISN'T his, he should be charged with stalking, child endangerment, and breaking a contract with heavy jail time and fines And the Big Fairy Tale ? Everyone happily Raising taxes to pay for children who can't be supported on one income (which is automatically lower due to the sex of the parent,(a female) ).... Any news on how this new bill for Male Equality is going in Congress ?
