Why was this woman permitted to own 10 guns

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by mister magoo, Jun 28, 2016.

  1. DoctorWho

    DoctorWho Well-Known Member

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    He wants everyone else's guns banned.
     
  2. tealwings

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    The gun seller really cant do anything about it based on "crazy eyes".. The evidence is always after the fact. Every single senseless shooting has had some demented individual with easy access to firearms.
    Might not be the only way to kill, but many lives are snuffed out...then we all just continue on.
     
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    Of course he does. He said: "Look at her, she's crazy, she shouldn't have a gun.", then later said, of Americans: "You're all crazy." By extension, he thinks no one should have guns. Probably because of his frustration at being denied that right himself.
     
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    Exactly, he feels impotent and wants everyone else to suffer the same ill.
     
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    maat Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They do in some cases, but it is impossible for them to screen out all the psychos and they should never be held responsible for those who do get and use them wrongly.
     
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    If I had to guess, I'd bet he's an Aussie. They are particularly steamed at being denied the right to firearms, and lash out like this against Americans quite often.

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    Agree 100%.
     
  7. DoctorWho

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    Foreigners sure love to export gun control to America !

    Enter Super Gun Bannerrhoids George Sorros and his lapdog Rebecca Peters........
     
  8. perdidochas

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    This case was an heirloom gun inherited from her great grandfather. There is no indication that she bought guns recently. The tragedy in this case is that her husband didn't take away her guns when she attempted suicide.

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    Especially in this case of a probably 50 year old handgun.
     
  9. Reality

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    There is a duty of care in the situation you describe. Its called running a NICS check. Unless the person looks them dead in the eye and says they're the lizard queen and want to murder people or something like that that is incredibly overt, they have no way of knowing anything and therefore it cannot be said that they "should have known" which is part of negligence which is what you are talking about.

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    Or get her ass adjudicated mentally unfit
     
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    I have no idea. But a better question: Why is an ISIS supporter deicing planes on the tarmac of an International Airport?

    _• In late 2014 or early 2015, after he had been called to testify to the grand jury investigating the case by Assistant United States Attorney Andrew Winter, co-conspirator Abdirahman Bashir agreed to become an informant. Bashir was part of the group seeking to leave Minnesota to join ISIS but he has never been charged. His work undercover was critical to the successful prosecution of the case.

    • Among other things, Bashir worked for a time at the Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport deicing planes. MSP authorities have so far failed to respond to my inquiry regarding the dates of his employment at the airport. I find the local media’s failure to follow up on this point mind-boggling. Bashir worked on the tarmac at the airport with co-conspirator Abdirizak Warsame. The first question Bashir asked the FBI when he agreed to cooperate with law enforcement: “Can you help me get my job at the airport back?”
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    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2016/06/isis-in-the-twin-cities-c.php
     
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    I haven't seen any evidence that she ever bought a gun.
     
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    She had guns because her husband was a weak man with no spine.
     
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    Sorry, but we don't deny constitutional rights without due process because you think someone has crazy eyes. Thats not how our country works.
     
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    Pray tell when did this shift in policy occur, where it was determined that due process was optional, and that deprivation of civil and constitutional rights could be based solely on the appearance of a person?
     
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    Don't forget Crazy eyes !!!
     
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    And her adult daughter didn't have the stones to try to have her adjudicated herself even though after all those events it was obvious she needed it.
     
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    Pretty tough to Baker Act someone. On the personal level and even through the courts.
     
  20. Reality

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    After the suicide attempts and the domestics and the visits to pros etc? I'm not saying it would be easy but it wouldn't exactly be out of the blue either.
    People complain "why was this woman allowed to have a gun" the answer is: Because her family did not take the steps required to take them from her.
     
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    My initial point is one, dad didn't have the stones to stop her being able to get a gun or control a gun. He also just stood there while she shot their kids in the street then ran.
    Point a gun at my son, and you better have some high penetration rounds. I will gladly put myself between him an a person with a gun.
    Two, he probably felt she "really wont shoot". And blocked out all the other troubles they had that lead to this.
    Basically she was pretty and felt he could not do better. So he allowed her to run off the chain to keep her.
     
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    On a personal level, yes, it's tough. Legally, not so hard, at least in FL--my wife as an assistant principal had initiated several. Not sure about TX.

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    well, he had kicked her out of the house at one point (he and the girls stayed, she moved out), and she had just moved back to the house fairly recently. That said, I agree with the rest. He should have locked up all of the guns in the house. If I had a crazy wife shooting at my kids, I'd do the same--attack her. I'd rather die than have my kids die. Glad I didn't marry a crazy woman.
     
  23. Reality

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    O full agreement man. The dad is a spineless (*)(*)(*)(*)stain. What I'm saying is that he SHOULD'VE either had her committed after the 15th domestic and multiple suicide attempts, or at least bought a damn gun safe and locked the guns away. And barring that he should've gone berserkergang on the wife when she started harming his daughters.
     
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    The truth is that if she truly had a mental illness it is her families and specifically her husband, could have had her committed..."When the Fort Bend County Sheriff’s Office arrived at Christy’s home to stop her killing spree, it reportedly wasn’t the first time they had been there. Authorities had been to the Sheats home “for previous altercations” involving Christy’s “mental crisis,” sheriff’s spokeswoman Caitilin Espinosa told People. Although Caitilin didn’t go into any more detail about what those incidents involved, clearly there were some underlying issues with Christy and her relationship with her daughters."


    http://hollywoodlife.com/2016/06/26/texas-mom-mental-illness-christy-sheats-killed-daughters-shooting/


    The truth is, it is not the job of the cops to determine mental illness. The article also does not specify why the cops were called, the paper speculates that there was a history of mental illness because of the police being called. Now I ask all you parents out there, how many of you have never yelled at your teenagers? Very few I'm willing to bet...Have you ever heard your neighbors yelling at each other? Did you call the cops or say it is not my problem?
     
  25. Greataxe

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    The question should be, why would a dangerous psycho be allowed to walk free in public??? It is liberals like yourself who control the Psychiatric Community in the US. It is their own shortcomings that allow crazy and dangerous thugs to be released and self medicated.

    I own a dozen guns and have more of problem with someone being able to sell dozens of bags of narcotics, be part of street gang that kills dozens of people with stolen guns---and still gets a pardon from Obama.
     

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