Why would a homosexual couple want to raise a child?

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  1. Logician0311

    Logician0311 Well-Known Member

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    In other words, as soon as someone actually responds to your posts in a mannerer that leaves you have no valid arguments, you ignore them rather than rethinking your position... Pathetic.
     
  2. yguy

    yguy Well-Known Member

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    No doubt it appears that way to a certain sort of...creature. :)

    Well lucky me, as I'd be pretty stupid to want any part of whatever "it" is you've "got". ;)
     
  3. smevins

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    I imagine that at least some homosexuals have children they may not necessarily have really wanted since they were living in the closet at the time, just as there are parents who had kids who never really wanted kids before they had them. I definitely know some in the latter case.

    I don't have a problem with gays having children. I don't even really have a lot of problem with gays adopting children just so there is a thorough background check to make sure there is unlikely a predator in the relationship and that the relationship seems stable enough. I see a lot of gay couples that just do not seem like they will last or are functional (straight ones as well) with too much of an age range between partners to make me okay with putting a small child into their care as they seem unlikely to last and one of the partners seems to likely be dead or feeble before the kid reaches HS graduation. Maybe a teenager would be okay.

    I would imagine that some gay singles would want to adopt just not to be so lonely. Not sure where I would go on that one.
     
  4. Logician0311

    Logician0311 Well-Known Member

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    I wholeheartedly agree with all of the above, and would suggest that the same applies to everyone - whether they are homosexual or not.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    :roflol:

    marvellous.
     
  6. sec

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    uh oh, I guess it's not well received by you when the double standard/hypocrisy is so blatantly and deliberately tossed back at you. I apologize for being so up front about it. It's just my style to matter of factly point out those things. I actually thought that you would see the facts, admit that you support the double standard and we could move on.

    Anyway

    you wrote

    No. As long as you don't impose your beliefs on others and expect them to live by your rules

    I 100% support that statement and in fact, live my life by it.

    But, in order to point out the hypocrisy of that statement, I responded with;

    interesting that you say that

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/...esbian-couple/

    perhaps you wish to rephrase it where the caveat is other than the homosexual belief/lifestyle, you can't force your beliefs upon others.


    And your reply to my post which clearly shows how the rules are different for those engaging in the homosexual lifestyle. That their sexual choices can and are being imposed upon others. And you said

    Bovine Excrement! That cake thing is getting old


    But it's not just the cake thing. It's Chic Fil A being told that they can't open a store in Chi Town because the owner supports traditional marriage, not the gay nonsense.

    Or the florist sued for not wanting to do a homosexual wedding, the photographer and the list goes on.

    Look, at least man up that you DO support the double standard and that there should have been a caveat in your statement simply saying;

    except in the case of all things homosexual, As long as you don't impose your beliefs on others and expect them to live by your rules

    You would at least be on the right side of liberty 96.4% of the time and that's not bad. You'd just be fascist 3.6% of the time when it involves homosexuals.
     
  7. Battle3

    Battle3 Well-Known Member

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    http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/ju...-cannot-ban-same-sex-civil-union-ceremony-on/

    In the UK there is a millionaire gay couple suing a church that wont "marry" them. http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/m...uing-force-church-hold-wedding/#axzz2zDZxczFD

    Yes, a super wealthy gay couple is so oppressed they are millionaires. And rather than move on to a church that embraces the gay lifestyle they would rather force a church to serve them. The couple had tthis to say:

    The Drewitt-Barlows, a millionaire couple from the U.K, stated, “We’ve launched a challenge to the government’s decision to allow some religious groups to opt out of marrying same-sex couples.”

    No tolerance, just hatred for any thought that isnt homofascist approved.

    If gays want to be equal, then they should abandon their status as a protected class and fight to repeal all gay related "hate crime" laws.
     
  8. ProgressivePatriot

    ProgressivePatriot Well-Known Member

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    I do not know or care what is going on in the UK nor do I understand British law, except from what I understand, that the church of England has close ties with the government. Second of all, this link is for the Ocean Grove case, which is a case of public accommodation. It is not about a Church

    Metzger ruled that, since the facility allowed non-Christians to use its facility for marriage, it had no doctrinal limitations. But Methodists do not limit their sacramental ministry to Christians and historically do not recognize marriage as a sacrament

    What else you got?
     
  9. Battle3

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    So any excuse is used to turn a blind eye to the activities of the homofascists. And Ocean Grove is a church.
     
  10. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    This is like claiming that Christians have kids to indoctrinate them into their cult.
     
  11. sec

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    You do realize that we Christians raise our children to honor the lord and follow the teachings. Why would one believe that a homosexual would not try and encourage a child to enjoy the homosexual lifestyle?
     
  12. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    The homosexual lifestyle? What's that?
     
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    DarkDaimon Well-Known Member

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    You know nothing of homosexuals.
     
  14. Polydectes

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    This is the absolute dumbest thread I have seen.

    Gay couples would adopt our even have children (gay doesn't mean sterile) because they want to raise children. Just like any other couple

    To pretend homosexual couples are any different than heterosexual couples is utterly baseless and absurd.

    This is just more anti-homosexual nonsense. The death rattle of the entire movement. The only arguments you dolts can produce is that it violates some fabricated natural law that never existed outside of your own mind. Or that homosexuals are some form of sub human.

    It's the dumbest argument because it's a baseless argument and that is why it's your death moan. The western world will stomp this insanity out. The only places that resist are backward inbred hick places, even those are being crushed.

    The more desperate grasping I see at the straws the better I feel about it. The Op was baseless, it had no real argument just prejudiced assumptions and this this nonsense will be dismissed.
     
  15. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Homosexuals normally have heterosexual patents. In this country they are normally Christian. Seems straight parents have failed to do just that. Why wouldn't it work opposite?
     
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    feel free to read the entire thread

    it's been stated many times, naturally it's speculative why anyone wants to raise kids. We all have our personal reasons. My suggestion is that it's natural to want to parent even for those who choose not to follow nature. The question about whether or not homosexuals would want to raise children as homosexuals was posed. In life, there are people who you or I may deem as fanatics. They could be Christian fanatics, Muslim fanatics and homosexual fanatics. For any of us to insist that there would never be a parent who tries to sculpt a child into what they the parent wants would be silly.

    Then, you have folks who simply wish to instill their beliefs upon their children. That would be expected. Christians would instill their religious beliefs upon their children so it would be expected that homosexuals would do the same with their sexual beliefs. Why is that offensive to you? It's natural for parents to do that. Just because homosexuals choose to go against the natural order for sex does not mean that they would not wish to instill their beliefs and values upon children.
     
  17. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    that would only stand to reason sexuality isn't a value issue.

    Butthen again I knew that and loud course you arelikelygoing to deny it with nothing but assumptions.
     
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    umm

    no

    the only difference between you and me is that I choose to insert my penis into females. You choose to do it with other males. Everything else is the same and to argue differently is utter nonsense. So, if a homosexual was to instill their sexual lifestyle choice upon their child(ren) that would be expected and a normal thing for a parent to do.
     
  19. Polydectes

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    Sorry, you didn't address the statement. I said it stands to reason sexuality isn't a value issue. I have heterosexual parents, yet I am not. Most homosexuals have heterosexual parents.

    So again it doesn't seem logical that one can "instill" a sexual orientation in a child.

    Regardless of unimportant issues such as lifestyles it seems sexual orientation is without a mechanism in child rearing

    Please explain how a heterosexual couple has anything but heterosexual children or you must be all wet.
     
  20. SFJEFF

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    Why would one believe that they would? I realize that there are heterosexuals- and Christians- that would insist that their kids must be heterosexuals, and will try to beat the 'gay' out of kids, force their kids into quack treatments to 'cure' their kids, but there is no reason to assume that homosexuals would act like those people.

    Homosexuals in general have had to endure discrimination and hate from people because of their sexual preference- why would you assume that they would want that discrimination and hatred directed at their kids?
     
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    You nailed it exactly.
     
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    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    I have had to argue with myself. Finally accepting that I am gay has told me that the arguments against it are based only on fear and prejudice.

    I once argued the other side.
     

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