Will Julia Come Clean?

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  1. aussiefree2ride

    aussiefree2ride New Member

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    http://au.news.yahoo.com/latest/a/-/latest/15111108/bishop-calls-on-pm-to-apologise/

    Federal Deputy Opposition Leader Julie Bishop has called on PM Julia Gillard to withdraw her fiery comments made in parliament this week, in which she labelled Tony Abbott a misogynist.

    "It is a vile slur, she should apologise to the women in Tony Abbott's life, and she should withdraw it," Ms Bishop said in a speech to the Liberal Party's Victorian State Council in Ballarat on Saturday.

    Ms Bishop opened her speech - in which she accused the Prime Minister of hiding behind her gender - with an address directly to the party's female members and candidates.

    "You are here because of your qualities, you are here because you've been judged on your merits, you are not (here) because you're part of a quota system, and the Liberal party is proud of you," she said, drawing rapturous applause.

    Noting that Ms Gillard's remarks on Tuesday went viral across the globe, Ms Bishop said many people were missing the fact that the PM had been defending then-speaker Peter Slipper, who has since stepped down after his "vile" text messages referring to women's genitalia were made public.

    "Would women around the world be applauding if they knew her speech was in defence of the indefensible?" Ms Bishop said.

    Ms Bishop defended Mr Abbott's personal and political record on women, describing him as a loving son, husband, brother and father of three daughters.

    She pointed out that in his time as health minister with the Howard government, he focused on women's health issues including a free national cervical cancer vaccine and a centre for gynaecological cancers.

    While workplace relations minister, he steered the Women in the Workplace Equal Opportunity Act through parliament, she said.

    Ms Bishop said Ms Gillard could not blame gender or Mr Abbott for her government's failures and backflips on the carbon and mining taxes, live cattle exports, border protection and the state of the nation's finances.

    She said the Labor government had spending, taxing "in its DNA", and that it would be left to a coalition government to bail the country out of hundreds of billions of dollars in debt.

    "We've done it before and we'll do it again," Ms Bishop said.

    Speaking before flying to Jakarta, where she'll join Mr Abbott along with opposition agricultural and immigration portfolio holders, Ms Bishop said Australia had vast opportunities to expand its trade with Indonesia and other countries in the Asia Pacific.

    She hailed Mr Abbott's recently announced policy of a government funded two-way student exchange with the regions' nations. The policy draws from a 1950s Menzies-era initiative, and Ms Bishop said it would be a signature policy of a coalition government that would create "incalculable" benefits for Australia.

    The country needs a coalition government now more than ever to "restore pride to this great country", she said.

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    It would be reassuring to see Julia Gillard display some character, some self respect, by setting the record straight on this issue. She has made filthy accusations, she is responsible for her own words, and the fact that her words have sent a deceptive and disgusting message world wide. If Julia Gillard has a conscience at all, she will be eager to correct the wrong she has caused, otherwise she will brand herself as having no regard for the standards of common decency, respect for others, and human dignity. I hope she can pass this test.
     
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    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What a load of pathetic conservative hog wash! You gotta have a laugh though....thanks for that at least aussie! Abbott is a lying deceiving mysogynist!it was misogyny to bring his wife into the political fray to risk taking a bullet for him! He has no respect for anyone but his conservative views on society from yesteryear! He is a danger to our societies very fabric. Australians have worked hard on being a "fair go for all" state, with tolerant attitudes. The 70's, 80's and 90's were great times. The mid nineties things changed in terms of people and interrelationships with one another. We became a dog eat dog society, trying to suck out whatever we could from our next door neighbour rather than simply lending a helping hand! Society should be about relationships above all else, but conservative greed has justified these dog eat dog attitudes under the guise of good business sense not common sense! Time to change your political ideals aussie! Come and join us in the land of where people matter!
     
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    aussiefree2ride New Member

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    How do you keep coming up with this crap TV. That post was a barking mad Sunday Special.
     
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    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just keepin it real
     
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    aussiefree2ride New Member

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    Can you see what you are doing to yourself TV. Have a look at your time line. You are accusing Abbott of being a mysogynist because his wife made a public statement AFTER Abbott was accused of mysogyny. What would you have done in Abbott`s position? I`m guessing that you would have hit her with an axe, and told her to get back in the kitchen.


    Thus is like shooting fish in a barrel.
     
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    You would have to be a brain dead moron not to realise that the Welsh queen has been playing the gender card at every opportunity. Don't you get it yet fellas - this is what feminists do when they fail!!

    She is such a low-life human being that she is diverting people's attention away from her incompetent policies onto a gender issue, and the headless chickens of Australia are falling for it.

    LOL LOL LOL
     
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    aussiefree2ride New Member

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    Do you think Julia will show enough class to appologise to Tony Abbott?
     
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    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You live in a weird little world of strange kaleidoscopes! What should Abbott have done you ask? Well nothing.......it's too late, he is a mysogynist with a track record! Bringing out his wife to fight his battles is misogyny upon mysogyny. He is a dirty little liar. You just have to check out the other thread to see how deceptive this guy is! LMAO!

    Like a drunk tryin to shoot fish in a barrel!
     
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    Good work TV. You certainly got ticket on the great mysogyny train going to mysogyny central in the great city of mysogyny.

    Be careful there are mysogynists there. In fact there is mysogynistic mysogynists, even lesbian mysogynists, and child mysogynists.

    You know what they say in Labor land TV, it takes a good mysogynyst to make the mysogynist world go round.

    Happy mysogyny to ya'.
     
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    Couldn't agree more, our values and fairness went down the drain when Howard entered the stage. Abbotts might even be worse...
     
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    Adultmale Active Member Past Donor

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    TV, you're still in primary school, right? No? You live in a pyschiatric unit somewhere, yes? Go and look up the word mysogyny and then come here and explain how Mrs Abbot speaking publicly in defense of your husband makes her husband a mysogynist. Interesting you use the term 'conservative greed', Paul Keating had a reputation for being arrogant and greedy, he spent huge sums of public money on luxuries for himself and it was one of the many criticisims of Rudd that nothing was too good for him when he was on is many (publicly funded) overseas jaunts. And we have seen numerous examples of greedy behaviour by other Labor and union identities in recent times. I reckon you weren't even born in the 70's and were too young to remember the 80's and most of the 90's and on top of this I get the feeling that you have had precious little paid employment, spending most of your short life on welfare. It shows in your attitudes.
     
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    That's right Cats, Howard was the inaugural leader of the mysogynist party of Australia.

    Little four eyed mysogynist. Now we might get a big eared mysogynist.

    Sh1t they come in all kinds of packaging. What will we do ?
     
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    Jilia Gillard hasn’t got a decent bone in her body. So the quick answer is no.

    If I was Tony Abbott, I would be looking into the legal recourse of bringing Gillard up on slander and defamation charges for public defamation.

    Gillard has definitely defamed his name and character publicly. Gillard’s lies have damaged Abbots character to the point where he could lose the next election over this.

    I would certainly be making her “prove” in a court of law that I hated women and girls, as she publicly accused me of doing.

    You cannot legally just put your own assumption on the definition of a word by accusing someone in a public speech of being a misogynist, and think that’s acceptable behaviour.

    What would the outcome of this be, if the situation was reversed, and Tony Abbott during a speech accused Julia Gillard of being a Misandrist?

    I think you would have feminist group in the country and every ALP female calling for Abbots resignation and blood, but its seems if you are a female, you can attack a male using any gender card and get away with it.

    Maybe its time males started to highlight this indifference and point it out, instead of being a bunch of limp wristed pansies to frightened to say anything.

    If some feminists don’t want equality of the genders, then maybe its time for males to start playing their game
     
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    Julia Gillard must appologise for this, and other venemous filth that has vomited out of her mouth. Of late, she is almost daily putting her arrogant megalomania on display for the world to see. If a man carried on like Julia Gillard, he would be branded as nine kinds of pig. Viva La Equality!

    As for sexism, I can recall numerous times when Gillard has made statements supporting her own sex exclusively, but never once have I heard her support men only. It`s well time to ask the question. Piggy who?
     
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    Look they entered public life so they should realise that this will occur in today's version of Australian politics. If women are so stupid as to not see through this as political point scoring then they are as stupid as the politicians take them for. This election campaign will be the filthiest campaign ever...... On both sides !

    When Abbott was Howard's lynchman he was just as derogatory and mean spirited. Now he is the leader he has had to clean himself up. Credit to the man, he hasn't taken Labors bait, it must be hard not to come back and say something like, " what about you Julia, pretending to be straight but hooked up with an old hairdresser mate to make Australia believe your not an old hairy lip leso ". Which I'm sure he would love to say, but as yet has declined. He has not been short of some mud slinging himself over the years.

    In short they have both been as guilty as each other when it comes to cheap politics. In the end he has been called far worse than a women hater, and if you look at it with a conscious mind it is easy to see he is anything but. A wife and three daughters, who are all very independent and free thinking women, who outside of his life have been all successful in their own right.

    So if women want to buy into the whole misogyny thing, it would prove all mysogynists ( I love this word ) right, and that is that a women is incapable of free and un emotional thought.

    Long live the mysogynist lesbians. Lolololol !
     
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    The mysogynialists around here wouldn't know a mysogynist if the mysogynist mysogynised them! We see em a mile away! Tony abbott is a filthy lying mysogynist! Right, time to discover another word that correlates with the name phony abbott!
     
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    Ouch...........did I hit a nerve Malena.....lmao!! Are you a mysogynist to? Have you devalued your wife by opening her up to potential ridicule, i mean, after all they are only just women! Muzzle her and keep her locked away, so no one knows who she is and only use her when it is convenient for my political causes, she can be used as a last resort!! Wake up Malena, this is a mysogynist act to cover up his mysogyny! It rolls off the tongue mysogyny, when you relate it to tony abbott!

    Ohhh, I see Malena also has a typical "I am superior" than everyone else attitude because I may own a business or i have a degree and they are unemployed or drive a commodore! This is how shallow you sound dude! Quite funny actually! I will remain an enigma and let you assume whatever you like, it actually makes things more interesting.
     
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    Are you saying that Tony put his wife up to this?
    That it wasn't ALL her own idea??
     
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    aussiefree2ride New Member

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    Margaret Abbott said that it was her Idea to go public in attempt to counter some ALP slime with the truth. I have no reason to accuse Margaret Abbott of being a liar, I would rather chew my own leg off than stoop that low.
     
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    Liking or disliking Gillard is not really the point. The point is; this vile creature is publicly accusing people of hatred, and getting away with these slanderous comments without any recourse. If Gillard can start accusing Abbott of hatred without any proof, then I don't see any reason why he cannot start accusing her of things without proof. I think its time Abbott and the Liberal Party "dark-men" opened up the big guns on this maggot, and put her down once and for all. Time to show this school girl some reality!!
     
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    Gillard is far and away more sexist than Abbott. She has continually made biased, sexist comments. One characteristic common to all fanatics, is that they are incapable of recognising their own faults. Julia`s low behaviour will backfire on her.
     
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    So you couldn't answer the simply question I asked.

    I don't think I am superior to anyone. But people who live on the dole and drive a commodore should definitely feel inferior to those who have degrees or own their own business. Time to do something about yourself TV, get a job and a decent car.
     
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    Of course......superiority complex! Anyway, some people are happy to live the simple life and that is fantabulous, it is their choice! If you want to spend your sorry life trying to prove your superiority over others then go hard dude! Anyway Malena,I don't think you have a brass razoo to your name to be honest, I think you are one of those hopeful little conservative idealists, believing that someday you will fit. Pleassssse, somebody respect me......I hear you say! Look, I have money....somebody please look at me, I am somebody important, I got money can't you see!.....:cry:
     
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    TV, you really must stop listening to those little voices in your head. Back to the topic. TV, do you think Julia can impersonate enough character to come clean and appologise to Abbott, and to all of the men and women of Australia who she has embarrassed and insulted?
     
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    Are you going to give us the explanation I asked for or not?
    If you 'choose' to be on the dole then you are not eligible to receive it. The dole is not a wage replacement, it is a support payment for people who are unemployed but want to work and are earnestly looking for a job. If you don't want to work, just want to live the 'simple life' instead, that's fine but don't put your hand out for the dole, you are not eligible and certainly not deserving.
    TV your jealousy of people with money is typical of those who are too dumb or lazy or lacking in self dicipline to work and save their own.
     

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