Will the Taliban ban the drugs trade in Afghanistan?

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  1. James7

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    The Taliban are Islamic fundamentalists and don't even accept the listening to Western popular music. They probably don't think much of the international drugs trade either.

    They previously banned the drugs production in the country shortly before the allied invasion in 2001. Will they shy away from doing the same again and just go with the flow?

    Some commentators in the media are suggesting the Taliban are attempting to fund themselves using drugs money. But how long will this last for and is it too early to say whether the Taliban will take action once more against the drugs trade?
     
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    Did they destroy opium poppy cultivation, at any point? Main drug trade there.
     
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    They certainly did. Here is a link:

    Learning Lessons from the Taliban Opium Ban

    See the following graph where opium production plummets in 2001:

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    Really depends on what we don't know, who REALLY runs the Taliban now, the Quran thumpers with their theological "purity" or a more secular, shall we say "pragmatic" bunch? At any rate we'll soon be seeing....also take note who rushes to initiate diplomatic ties and trade deals with the government that's established.
     
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    There are always economic consequences if you suddenly ban a cash crop like opium.

    After 20 years of occupation, the allied forces didn't do anywhere near like enough to reform the country's drugs situation. The occupation could have been a golden opportunity to change things in the right direction but the graphs speak for themselves.
     
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    Humans have very short memories, and maybe that's why we never seem to learn the lessons of history.

    Many Americans don't know, and many have forgotten, but in April 2001 Sec State Powell hand-carried a $43 million check to the Taliban. He did that to reward them for their tremendous success against drugs in the years prior.

    By strict enforcement of Sharia law over a period of years, the Taliban virtually eliminated the cultivation and trade of poppy. The previously existing drug trade in that country was almost completely eliminated, and that's why Colin delivered the check for Dubja.

    Six months later we invaded the country, and a year after that thanks to our very own CIA, Afghanistan once again led the world in opium production. Some don't know that the CIA has been in the drug business since it was created in 1947. Some jokingly call the agency the Cocaine Importing Agency. Too damn true.
     
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    Afghanistan is also the world's leading producer of hashish.

    The country also produces ephedrine from ephedra bushes which can then be converted into methamphetamine.

    Taking down the Silk Road on the Dark Web is one thing but what about taking out the very source of these illicit chemicals?
     
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    of course they won't, the war on drugs in the USA helps fund terrorism and gangs, have you not watched the anti-drug ads

    "Drug Money Funds Terrorism And Terrorists"

     
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    Isn't growing poppies to make drugs their most important product as income for the nation????
     
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    The US military invaded Afghanistan to save the poppies that were being destroyed by the Taliban.

    Recently on FOX TV news they were discussing WHY the US White population was so much lower in the last census. The reason FOX discussed was how so many rural Whites have died from the ongoing opioid crisis.

    Opioids are from the opium poppy plant

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    Do you see the irony ??

    The decade the US military was in Afghanistan... poppies continued to be harvested which helped fuel the ongoing opioid crisis which has mass-murdered Amercans!

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    The Chinese will be all over those poppy fields ... then again, maybe not ... the Chinese are pushing synthetic drugs in the US now ... things like Fentanyl and Flaca ...
     
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    Way to go racist joe. This administration has been a complete catastrophe smh.
     
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    Ehm ... they financed their war with drugs by proof and own statements. They reasoned it that the drugs are not for them or any muslims, but for the Westerners and so it is OK for them!
     
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    They will probably drastically reduce the opium trade, but some of it will continue on, to finance the Taliban themselves.

    Incidentally, it will be the same thing with prostitution and the awful practice of Bacha bazi.
     
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    Probably partly as an attempt to give NATO forces one less reason to invade.
     
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    Unfortunately the invasion had completely the opposite effect.


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    Drugs were never a topic as reason to invade Afghanistan ... and even when invasion was done, the drug production was never fought by NATO troops!
     
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    Ask Biden. I'm sure his "well thought" out exit plan covered this.

    Chuck Schumer Praised Joe Biden’s ‘Careful and Thought-Out Plan’ for Afghanistan Withdrawal.

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    It's all fun and games with the fast answers, the BS and the "messaging".​
     
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    NO!
    Cash Crop.

    Too much money.
     
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    They had 20 years to sort out the security situation with the Afghan government but when it came to it they couldn't hold out against a bunch of cave dwelling guerrillas who swept the country in a matter of days.

    Complete fail.
     
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    Poor Hunter, he must be beside himself
     
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    Did you know that the only reason they are "illicit" chemicals is because of government legislation?

    The drug prohibition that we defend so vigorously is what created drug cartels. As we did with alcohol and the Volstead Act, do away with the offending legislation and the problems vanish.

    People don't necessarily stop using drugs, but the problems caused by prohibition vanish.
     
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    I agree. Prohibition does actually fuel the illicit drugs trade. If you get addicted to narcotics you've fallen for a cynical con that rakes in cash for criminals and leads to further crime such as burglary and car theft.

    People are far less likely to kill themselves on properly dosed narcotics but it seems extremely unlikely any Western government will ever legalize the recreational use of a drug like heroin.

    But the maths is simple. The more drugs that are grown overseas means the more addicts and drugs related deaths at home.
     
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    No it won't, and it shouldn't,. They have the finest opium crop in the world, they should exploit it.

    Legalise opium. Give it the same legal status as corn or lettuce.
     
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