Windows 8

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  1. prospect

    prospect New Member

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    Can anyone that has used windows 8 tell me if it is good,and compare it to windows 7.

    I need to make up my mind between the two OS and Dell is pushing windows 8 now,though still selling 7. I have used and like 7 but no idea about 8.

    I would hope not much difference but in light of XP to Vista to 7, it seems Microsoft is inconsistent with their OS. I am hoping windows 8 isn't the system everyone will be cursing for the next 5 years like they were vista.. lol
     
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    Windows 8 is only going to benefit you if you have a touch screen tablet, if you have a laptop or desktop then there is no point having it. Windows 7 is supported until 2020.
     
  4. prospect

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    That's what I heard,about the touchscreen thing being the only advantage but I know two people that bought windows 8 and neither have touchscreen and they said it was awesome.

    I can't get in touch with either for them to elaborate. Have you used 8 ?
     
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    I've used ubu and didn't like it any more than xp. Wasn't anymore resource friendly and I Couldn't have stereo sound though I searched low and high. I know why you open source people rebel against Microsoft but free isn't a good enough reason for me.
     
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    I agree. For a PC there is no reason at all to go to Windows 8. I rather regret having done it. For a touch screen tablet it should be dandy.
     
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    Would you please tell me why you regret it ?
     
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    I have no plans at all to ever buy Windows 8 for anything I personally own. I don't need a tablet/cell phone interface on my home PC. I'm not so stupid that a desktop is advanced technology that I cannot comprehend. I also don't want to buy it because I don't want to reward Microsoft for making this one of their main OS's, instead of the side novelty project for 25 bucks that it should have been. It's even more stupid how they're going to restrict DirectX 11.1 to Win8, though from what I've read there's really no imminent benefits to 11.1 and game developers probably won't use it much anyway.

    I'm not anti Microsoft, I love Win7 and I loved XP(back before it was obsolete). I just have no desire to support this trendy gimmick move.
     
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    Sure. It has a lot of quirks I don't like. For instance if I use the regular IE 10 and save login information, that information is lost next time I use the metro version of IE 10. The two versions should work with the same input files but they don't. The metro version won't pring without using Ctrl P and then it is a 3 step process. IE9 and the regular IE10 have one click printing. Speaking of metro, it puts a pretty big tax on my bandwidth so I had to turn it all off, making my desktop look pretty much like Win 7. My bandwidth is limited to 6GB per month so I have to be pretty miserly with it.

    I don't like having to launch the file explorer or hunt for icons to launch my most used apps. There is no start button on the desktop. So I either deal with that or have to switch to the metro start screen. The start screen is dandy for a touch screen tablet but fussier than the start button. I truly miss the desktop start button.

    I don't like that the Win 8 HP Laserjet driver doesn't work like the Win 7 one. My invoices are nearly unreadable. If going back to Win 7 were simple and fast, I would do it today.
     
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    Heh, it sounds like you had a more negative experience with it than most. No stereo sound? That's a rare issue indeed, I think.

    Whether it's Debian on an old Power Mac G5 or OpenSUSE on a modern hex-core system, though, I find Linux-based operating systems to be kick-ass. Wine and VirtualBox solve most issues with running Windows programs as well. But heck, who needs Windows apps anyway? I do my work using two open source apps: Okular to view password-protected PDFs (it even has a handy select & copy feature), and LibreOffice Writer for word processing. Got Firefox as well, of course, so internet works same as on any commercial system. Got Rhythmbox for my iTunes needs.. Wham Bam, it's all there at ZERO cost. Sound is never an issue for me..
     
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    That must be some kind of mobile internet plan, huh? I don't know why anyone buys that limited data nonsense. Here I sit with 30 Gbit (at least - might be faster) internet with no such silly caps. Mobile is just not worth it.
     
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    M$ and Apple both pull a lot of crappy moves, trying to force people to upgrade, using their clout to get away with it. They also have no competition outside of open source, but then open source tends to be pretty awesome anyway.
     
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    I'm not sure I can be of much help, as I just purchased a new laptop this last Saturday (HP) with Window 8, and I am just starting to learn it.

    However, it seems to me that the big differences are only superficial, basically in the way the opening screen presents itself and thus gives access to your favorite files and search engines, rather than in a real difference in the functioning of the programs. It seems that some items that I used often (i.e., going to find documents and different drives attached to the computer) are sort of "second level" and kind of hidden behind the "consumer friendly" first screen, so it takes a little while before you figure it out (especially because I don't like to read the "help" and instructions offered, I rather explore on my own), but once you know where and how to find it, it becomes really routine.

    I think Window 8 will be no problem after a few short days. In fact, I don't see it as a problem right now. . .but I haven't explore everything yet.

    Once thing I already found out is, because Window 8 is so new, some older programs or add on devices (specifically in my case, the software for a docking station, and some games) are not yet compatible with Window 8, but I think it's just a question of a short time before EVERYTHING is.

    Good luck making a decision.
     
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    Nope, it is the only thing available out here in the country. No broadband here.
     
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    They have no competition with open source either.
     
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    Yeah? Bought a windows phone lately? How about a tablet?
    http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-5...nates-tablets-but-android-grabs-market-share/

    You understand that windows servers are not running the internet right?

    We have phones/tablets locked up over MS. We have the server market over MS and Apple.

    We do only have about 2% of desktops... but as people use linux more and more every day on their personal devices, that transition gets easier and easier.
    You can pretend that linux is no threat to MS... but MS feels differently.
    Oh... and we are free. In each sense of the word.
     
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    have not bought it yet, I always buy the cd\dvd even though they force me to buy it again when I buy a new laptop, but the cd is so much easier to install with when you need to rebuild without all the junk dealers put on there
     
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    The reason Linux is not a viable competitor is that there scores of "versions" of it. That makes it a hobbyist system. Serious software developers can't and won't develop for it. If Linux were to get down to one version (ubuntu seems to be the most popular) it would probably make a serious dent in the marketplace.

    By the way, my web server runs on Windows.
     
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    I would say it's also useful for HTPCs. I have Windows 7 on a 55" LCD TV and the text and buttons are sometimes too small to read. Seems like the buttons and text are better designed for a large variety of screen sizes in Windows 8
     
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    I would say it's also useful for HTPCs. I have Windows 7 on a 55" LCD TV and the text and buttons are sometimes too small to read. Seems like the buttons and text are better designed for a large variety of screen sizes in Windows 8
     
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    The biggest thing Linux needs to do is get video game developers. The devs love Ubuntu but outside of developers there really isn't much of a market for Ubuntu. Bringing video games devs into the mix would create that market I think. The good news is Steam is making a big move towards Linux. And if a lot of developers jump on board I can see Ubuntu picking up a decent chunk of the market after that.
     
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    It's not rare at all for some drivers to just not work in Ubuntu without jumping through a bunch of hoops that only an IT guy would understand how to do. That's just what happens when major companies don't bother to support Linux OS's.
     
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    If they were forcing people to upgrade they'd stop supporting Windows 7. Hell Microsoft is still supporting XP until 2014! Also there are a few things that Microsoft does that are open source. But overall they are a business. And in my opinion Windows is a much more stable OS than the latest Linux OS's. I've had a lot of issues with Linux lately that have caused me to abandon it almost entirely on my personal computers for the time being.
     
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    I take it you are not running a very large operation... or you chose windows from some sort of server farm where you lease space.
     

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