without echoing NASA's statement, how would you defend this landing on the moon.

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  1. LoneStrSt8

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    BetaMax maintains that the Chinese spacewalk was real. Here's a link to some of the proof that it was faked.
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144487&page=132&p=6317012&viewfull=1#post6317012

    The proof that the Chinese spacewalk was faked is so clear that it makes a good objectivity test. BetaMax's maintaining that it was real shows that he's not objective. If anybody doesn't have time to look at the proof, please don't be swayed by mere rhetoric and withhold judgement until you have time to look at it.
     
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    No redeeming features at all. Incessant, predictable and devoid of any ability to discern truth. I predicted his response, perhaps he is just too dense to see why a flag would not move unrestricted in water, or that a bubble doesn't rotate and look like a piece of ice. The "I don't understand why something occurs, therefore my view must be the only explanation" repetition.
     
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    Diagnosable clinical paranoia....with a mania syndrome.


    Just my layman's guess.
     
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    Men did then what unmanned probes do today, but far more expensively and dangerously. You can thank the silly rivalry between the USA and the USSR for that.

    Still, getting men up there to bounce around on the lunar surface and then bringing them home again safe and sound... That was a truly marvellous achievement. It's a heck of a lot cooler than just having machines up there, and so I for one am very happy that we pulled it off.

    Having human settlements there would be even more expensive and difficult. NASA does not have the budget for that, and in fact it never did and likely never would have gotten it. I suppose that's kind of a shame.. Imagine if all the money spent on killing people (the military) had been spent on that instead!

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    Well shucks. I guess you'll just have to go on believing in a silly and impossible conspiracy, then.
     
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    The moon landing was a war footing reaction to Russia. There is no doubt that we landed on the moon but once done all public and political enthusiasm waned. In fact, later landings weren't even broadcast.

    Recent pic of the moon. Yes, we do have some good capabilities but a small budget since people don't want us spending money on this and would rather spend money (which we don't have) on everything else.

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    http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way...by-apollo-missions-visible-in-new-moon-photos
     
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    It's spam.

    http://debunking-a-moron.blogspot.co.uk/

    Nobody agrees with you. Please explain your motive for posting the same debunked spam for 5 years.
     
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    I understand why it's hard to accept - you haven't dont it yourself.

    And there are samples taken from the moon rocks that have been analyzed ... though one could claim that they weren't there to see when the rocks were delivered. Basically, anytime you'll only believe your own observations you can make conspiracy claims.

    But we know about GPS sattellites - if you read about how the technology functions you can tell that they're up there, and we see that the results work. So we can tell that we've gotten things and spaceships into space ... perhaps from there it's only a small leap to accepting that we made it to the moon.
     
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    You are missing a critical component of the time. Space flight was a direct military response to Russia. Once we landed and Russia abstained, the American people (the money should be spent here for ending poverty) and particularly the politicians lost interest in funding any more so the funding stopped and space exploration took a different more limited turn.
     
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    We were also bankrupted by Vietnam. Of course if the Moon Landings had come 10 years later, it wouldn't have been a problem because we would have been into Reagan deficit spending when you could cut taxes and increase spending on anything military....and NASA could have pitched a Moon Base as a "missile site" and the RW Hawks would have funded it up to "Apollo-37."
     
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    Wow,bringing politics into a discussion where it hadn't been....nice.
     
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    MythBusters' credibility was destroyed a long time ago.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7yc2rVOs00
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5ajIVmGiQE
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23BIb_PMJ4M
    http://aulis.com/mythbusters.htm

    It's just mainstream government-controlled disinfo.

    There's a mountain of proof that the missions were faked...
    http://www.politicalforum.com/moon-landing/347662-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-studio.html

    ...and zero proof that they were real.
     
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    If they were faked,spammer,AGAIN why did they do it SIX times?

    And you have ZERO proof they were faked,despite your claim,I had family working at JSC in the sixties/seventies,and I trust them over you,all day scott/cosmored/fatfreddy88/david c
     
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    No it wasn't. Quoting idiotic videos and cash cow websites hardly helps your claim.

    No it isn't.

    No there isn't.

    http://debunking-a-moron.blogspot.co.uk/

    Captain spam and his head in the sand. The lunar samples alone are all the proof needed. Please don't spam your idiotic website that you don't understand, as a means to dismiss their authenticity.
     
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    You mean those who crash space craft into planets because they get their metric and imperial measurements mixed up.
     
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    That cuts deep, man....deeeeeeeeeeeeeep :smile:
     
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    I watched the Gemini and Apollo missions in the 60's and 70's. I know it's real. They didn't have the technology to fake it back then.
     
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    In the end, the Apollo hoax position is one of ignorance and ideology. The people calling those missions a hoax have no clue about the engineering involved, nor, apparently, about the sheer number of people from all around the world who participated in some way.

    Then there's the tangible evidence besides. Lunar rocks are not the same as earth rocks, and we have nothing naturally occurring on Earth that is quite like lunar regolith either. Geologists alone would be able to blow such a hoax wide open, and they most certainly would if given an opportunity - an opportunity that many have indeed had for over 40 years now..
     
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    It has been mentioned more than once proving Mr Scott wrong but the glaring evidence of the retro mirror left on the surface by Armstrong and Aldrin.

    A university lab in New Mexico bounces a laser off of it several times a year to get precise measurements of the distance between the Earth and Moon.

    Mr. Scoot absolutely refuses to even acknowledge that one.

    And of course the radar and radio triangulation performed by many outside of NASA to include the soviets. All of which tracked the mission all the way to the moon and back.

    And on and on and on.
     

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