women racked with guilt over their abortions

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  1. churchmouse

    churchmouse New Member

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    You are right. You do try to convince yourself that what you did was not what you know in your heart it was. It was a blob...was not really living...was not a person...and its legal so that means it must not be that bad...if everyone is doing it.
    Some women don't care...and could carry on throughout life as if nothing happened. Look at the pro-abort women here...who embrace and love abortion...they would be good examples. But I believe that the majority of women who get abortions....suffer some sort of guilt and depression. This can come right after the abortion...or years later like it did for me. I do not believe statistics are accurate in representing anything related to abortion and this is why. Women lie to themselves, they lie to others and many don't want people to know what they did. So if you deny it to yourself, if you avoid the subject and pretend it didn't happen...it might go away. I talk about mine...I am in the minority.
    What you say is the truth...on this.
     
  2. churchmouse

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    They live in denial....they know that its wrong and immoral.

    Casper....if there was nothing wrong with abortion, then when I say.....all pro-aborts love abortion...why do they denying those feelings? Couldn't a pro-abort love abortion? If there is something wrong with abortion....then why get defensive when someone says...what I just did. And if there is something wrong with abortion....why defend it?
     
  3. churchmouse

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    You still have not proven the majority believes this way. How many people did they poll? In what areas of the country?

    What would you say if I said....the majority of Americans do not support gay marriage?
     
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    Casper Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    That is your OPINION. I have only met one woman in my life that ever said said she felt remorse over have had an abortion and she was flaky to begin with.

    I defend a womans right to make her own choice for the first 3 months, before the baby has developed a brain, after that I would only defend that right if her life were in danger. I am sure you believe any egg that has been fertilized is a person and no abortion should be allowed no matter what, and there is where we differ and always will. The point is why even post threads such as this since not one person will ever change their stand on the abortion issue because of some stories posted on a discussion board?
     
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    Casper said,

    Yes it is my opinion partly and then part of the work I do...pro-life work...talking to women who have had abortions. Do you usually ask women about abortion?
    She was flaky? So your flaky is you think abortion is bad? So if a woman regrets her abortion she is flaky? Maybe the people who represent your position...are the flaky ones...so if you hear about someone is opposed to it who has morals and a conscience...it would appear odd. Because if you hang out with people who basically are pro-abortion...then I see where morality would seem odd.


    LMAO.....oh you add the "she only gets the right" in the first three months. So you deny her the right to choose...and the right to her body. Your POSITION IS SO CONTROLLING. My word. To deny a woman the right to her own body? How can you do that base don your own loose sense of morality?

    Your position the entire thing is hypocritical. I am anti-choice abortion. I do not think that the woman should be allowed to kill in any month...ONLY...if her life is on the line and she is on the table...dying. I even struggle with allowing abortion even for this. But this almost never happens...A child in the womb does not normally threaten a woman's life.
     
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    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    As I said you are in denial, doesn't matter what is shown you will deny it.

    But how about this one, a little old as it is from 2005, but it shows the state by state position of either pro-life or pro-choice, the weighted average is 56% pro-choice, the unweighted average is 54% pro-choice.

    http://www.surveyusa.com/50state2005/50StateAbortion0805SortedbyProLife.htm

    If that is true, and again the polls are showing it is not - http://www.pollingreport.com/civil.htm
    then I would disagree with them . .however, it is their own personal choice, I would debate the issue as I do with abortion, but in the end we all must make our own choice on the matter .. see its that little word you are so afraid of again .. choice!
     
  7. WhatNow!?

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    """"So if a woman regrets her abortion she is flaky?""""



    NAAWWWWW! Where would anyone get THAT idea.....:) LOL!
     
  8. Anders Hoveland

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    A study was conducted by Dr. Anne Speckhard at the University of Minnesota. She concluded, "After 5-10 years 54% of mothers choosing abortion had nightmares, 81% had preoccupation with their aborted child, 35% had perceived visitations with their child, and 96% felt they had taken a human life."
     
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    link to the data or its just meaningless.
     
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    OKgrannie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    NOTHING, nothing at all in that article indicates that federal money was used to pay for abortions. Please read it again.
     
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    So you actively campaign to end wars since so many soldiers come home with trauma that may last a life time?

    So you actively campaign against the Catholic Church that protected the vile pigs who traumatized children for life?

    So you actively campaign against cars because those who are in accidents may be traumatized for life?
     
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    Either you are a liar, or whomever gave you those figures is. Here is a quote from the real world Dr. Anne Speckhard:

    While some women do have adverse psychological responses to abortion it is important to state that many women also appear to do fine with abortion and some even report relating to it as a growth experience in which they were forced to confront irresponsible aspects of prior behaviors, their potential fertility and motherhood, and so on. It is a mistake to generalize from small samples and state that all women will suffer from abortion, as this is simply not supported by existing research.
     
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    He is most certainly the former.
     
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    I am denying nothing. The American Public has never been asked collectively. Every poll showed Romney the winner...and who won? Polls lie...there is error whether its from 2005 or 2013.

    Have any of you been asked to take part in any poll? About abortion?
     
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    No poll includes every American, never has, never will....but every poll I have seen reveals that more Americans are in favor of legal abortions...they may be personally against them but agree that the right thing to do is let women choose....as YOU did.
     
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    Glad someone woke up this thread....now maybe those Anti-Choicers can answer some questions...


    So you actively campaign to end wars since so many soldiers come home with trauma that may last a life time?

    So you actively campaign against the Catholic Church that protected the vile pigs who traumatized children for life?

    So you actively campaign against cars because those who are in accidents may be traumatized for life?
     
  17. churchmouse

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    Here is a guy who had worked both sides of the aisle...and certainly would know as much as your featured Doctor would unless she has had an abortion.



    Another opinion....

    And I did find this about Dr. Anne Speckhard

    So she is putting a lot of stuff out there....isn't she? No organization could give information out about someone that was not true...or they would be shut down.

    http://www.prolife.com/ABORT12.html
     
  18. churchmouse

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    There is a general perception that women are liberated by abortion.

    However, the attempt to “get rid of” a problem, often produces problems of its own.

    There is no such thing as a simple uncomplicated abortion,

    because abortion is always the disruption of the psycho-biological process of pregnancy

    and always involves the loss of a child, albeit unborn.

    The trauma involved in being both attached to, and responsible for

    the death of one’s foetal child can be emotionally overwhelming.


    Complicated Mourning: Dynamics of Impacted Post Abortion Grief, Anne Speckhard, PhD, and Dr Vincent Rue, PhD, Pre-and Perinatal Psychology Journal, 1992

    Notice she uses the term...."LOSS OF A CHILD." Which is a contrary term to what most pro-aborts use here. It's not a baby...in this doctors opinion it is....even she recognizes that.
     
  19. DentalFloss

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    They can't put anything on the internet that isn't true. Oh, and I am a French model.

    In my experience, the religious right puts out outright lies on a constant basis. They have too, because the truth destroys their contention that our society is going to hell because of immorality. STD's are at all time lows. Teenage pregnancies are at all time lows. High School dropouts are at all time lows. Crime is mostly at all time lows. By every available metric society is better today than it was when the religious nutters were actually in control. They know it, and it scares the crap out of them, so they make (*)(*)(*)(*) up, their flocks full of sheep believe them, and spread the lies, many times actually believing them to be true.
     
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    WhatNow!? said,

    Yes the pro-killing unborn children group are boring aren't they? It's kill kill kill and if the conversation doesn't go their way...they change the subject.
    What do your questions have to do with the topic of this thread? Let me remind you what that is.

    WOMEN RACKED WITH GUILT OVER ABORTION

    What personally do you have to contribute to this topic?

    War has NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS TOPIC. TAKE IT ELSEWHERE.

    And soldiers don't come home with trauma...it's in their heads...just like abortion regrets are only in the heads of a few who have had them. Right?
    Lets talk about women's regrets....not soldiers trauma.


    THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TOPIC.


    THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TOPIC OF THIS THREAD.


    Don't try to avoid the topic. But then maybe you have nothing to contribute?
     
  21. churchmouse

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    And you would know the truth. Ok what is it.

    Tell us about your abortion experience. What trauma did you experience if any. Let us all know your qualification regarding the subject matter.
     
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    EVENTS RELATED TO ABORTION

    · 23% had hallucinations related to the abortion

    · 35% perceived visitation from the aborted child

    · 54% had nightmares related to the abortion

    · 69% experienced feelings of "craziness"

    · 73% had flashbacks of abortion experience

    · 81% had a preoccupation with the aborted child

    MOST COMMON BEHAVIORAL PROBLEMS AFTER ABORTION

    · 61% increased their use of alcohol

    · 65% had thoughts of suicide

    · 69% were sexually inhibited

    · 73% had flashbacks of the abortion

    · 77% experienced an inability to communicate

    · 81% experienced frequent crying """"



    Boy, you are really ...putting yourself out there for all to see!!! With all those problems I wonder why I should take anything you say seriously...well, I never did anyway...but...

    And as you stated, it's only in their heads so that part just doesn't count...
     
  23. churchmouse

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    Never can address the issue right?

    - - - Updated - - -

    Never can address the issue right?
     
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    Your anecdotal "abortion experience" doesn't qualify you to speak for all women.
     
  25. DentalFloss

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    Your statistics are fabricated lies. Issue addressed.
     

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