World’s First Of It’s Kind Surgery Saves Miami Girl’s(*)Life

I don't see the conflict here, actually.

 

me either, before conception we are preforming medical aid to make conception even occur, invitro, yet not every fertilized egg will be taking to term to become a baby

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It is not a person but a fetus, whom the parents desperately wanted. The doctors knew this, and they chose to go ahead with the surgery in order to help these people become parents.

We perform surgeries on non people all the time. Animals, for instance. If it is inside the womb and can be aided with surgery, then the doctors will perform that surgery.

 

No, what you have done is to create a troll thread, to have a go at pro choicers.

Not one pro choicer could voice their admiration for the skills of those doctors who saved the life of that fetus and enabled two people to become parents. We would be condemned because according to some, we shouldn't give a (*)(*)(*)(*) about how many fetuses are saved in the womb because we'd prefer they all be aborted instead. That is so far from the truth its not funny.

 

again you dodge

who signed the consent form?

I've never heard any "parent" announce themselves as proud parents of a bouncing fetus. You are parents of a CHILD

it is just a parasite, a bunch of goo, an inconvenience

again, you cannot perform surgery on that which is not alive or a person.

Also, please spare us the animal anecdote. This thread is about a misguided surgeon who operated on a zygote; that which is not alive or worthy of the time.

 

Seriously, which is more interesting/important to you, learning of new medical and surgical procedures that can help save a life, or using the article to drive your opinion by taunting and casting aspersions upon those with whom you disagree?

It appears from your initial post, to be the latter.

This could have just as easily been a thread celebrating advancement in technology. Something good and positive for everyone. But instead you chose (from the start), to interject you personal bias, obviously in a deliberate effort to create further argument and peddle your own agenda.

Instead of inferring others are "dumbass" and "products of a failed education system," you should reflect on how your present yourself, and consider yourself fortunate that Makedde didn't shut your little troll thread down from the start.

I agree, and commend you for your fairness.

 

Why not? A fetus IS alive. Why can't surgery be performed on a potential person?

 

it can't be because the willful taking of a life is MURDER. You need to be careful with what you call alive

Feel free to walk back your position and refer to the sack of goo, zygote, foetus, fetus, inconvenience, parasite or any other word which does not reflect the alive baby which it acutally is.

If you do not walk back your position, then once again your hypocricy shines through

 

We destroy live human cells daily. It isn't murder.

What is wrong with the word "fetus"? The surgery was performed on a FETUS, which is the development stage in the 17th week of pregnancy. A fetus is alive, but not yet a baby, which is the developmental stage from birth to one year.

 

they just did preform surgery on a fetus, that is what this article was about, they did the surgery before a baby was born

 

extra InVitro cells are disposed of and one is choose to become a baby, happens all the time, nothing wrong with it, if one is against it, they are against ever baby that was ever born via InVitro

 

Seriously disturbing.

There appears to be an issue here well aside from pro life/pro choice discussion.

 

I've no responsibility for the actions of anyone who chooses to like my posts. You're all as bad as each other as far as I'm concerned, your thread was just struck me as a little more distasteful than usual.

 

Couldn't have said it any better. Bravo to you, sir... for your keen observations.

 

agreed

I simply call it.................a baby; how about you?

 

please show me where one is a PARENT of a FETUS

who can authorize surgery on goo? It requires PARENTS to authorize surgery on their CHILD; not goo, zygote, fetus, foetus

clearly you don't see where you are wrong. You so badly want to support the execution of babies but in the same time applaud this surgery and conveniently call the people PARENTS and dodage around what exactly was operated on............I'll tell you what, it was a CHILD, a BABY......you know, the same thing you're ok with murdering if that same baby is an inconvenience. And you wonder why those of us who cherish life will fight those like you?????????????

 

This is not a troll thread.

You guys claim it's just a clump of cells all the time. Do you deny this? I sure hope not. We got countless threads here with thousands of comments on the subject.

Troll thread..lol. I took a story and commented on it. If that is trolling, then every thread on this site is trolling.

If you don't want to discuss this moderator or anybody else, then I suggest you not participate.

If we can't discuss politics on a political website, then What is the point of a political site?....lol.

 

agreed

I let the troll comment pass as well but just noted that it was a MODERATOR who made that comment.

 

They are both equally important to me.

I am always amazed at our medical breakthroughs, which is why I am pro life. I understand that as medical technology advances, life will be saved at an earlier and earlier stage and at a later stage.

Through medicine, abortion will be rendered worthless. As we advance our medicine, so do we also show the logical fallacy of abortion. Pro-choicers continuously say "it's just a clump of cells", "a parasite", but is any of that honestly accurate?

The answer is no. It's not. This story just goes to show it yet again. So I suggest instead of whining about it, you pick up a shield and defend your logical fallacy if you care to. If not, that is OK too. But don't come in here whining about talking politics. This is a political website for Christ sakes.

 

And just for the record, the OB-GYN when they 1st found out about the condition of the baby told her to abort the baby.

So for those of you wondering about why this is in the abortion section, there ya go.

Medical advancement, it is wonderful isn't it?!

 

That's absurd. We perform surgery on living objects all the time, but it doesn't mean those objects are people. If I had heart surgery, would it be done because my heart is a person or because it's a part of my body?

 

His point was that having surgery performed on something does not make it a person.

 

It's allowed because the mother chose to have it done....

I see what you're doing here, you're just failing at it.

 

nice try but that dog don't hunt

your heart is part of you. The baby is the baby or to you, a pile of goo, a zygote, a fetus, a foetus, an inconvenience, a parasite or that which deserves to be terminated.

it keeps coming back to how can one allow a surgery to be perfomed on a baby when it's not a baby but a pile of goo?

You cannot squirm frm this

 

You're not making any sense.

Yes, my heart is a part of me, just like the baby was a part of it's mother.

A pile of goo? What?

I've never seen anyone on this forum seriously say that a fetus deserves to be terminated. I think you're making that part up completely.