World Health Organisation calls coronavirus "international emergency", but opposes travel bans

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  1. Steady Pie

    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't think they're leftists - internationalist bureaucrats just tend to be pro-internationalism is all.
     
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    "WHO deploy crack team to China
    The World Health Organization (WHO) announced Saturday it would be sending a team to China, beginning from Monday or Tuesday, to investigate the coronavirus outbreak.
    Speaking at a news conference, WHO director general Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said they were fighting not only the virus but also the growing tide of incorrect information around it.
    "While the virus spreads, misinformation makes the job of our heroic health workers even harder. It is diverting the attention of decision makers. And it causes confusion and spreads fear to the general public," he said."
    Well I suppose we better get ready for the "official version" of the origin of the virus....
    Or perhaps the cover up story that China will tell the WHO to announce.
    I think Id prefer to listen to "We wont be fooled again..."
    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?.../search?q=we+wont+be+fooled+again&FORM=HDRSC3
     
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    Just seems to me keeping the chinese from coming or going to any other nation is just common sense regardless if we already have some cases or not.

    The fewer the transmitters the better.
     
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  4. chris155au

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    Well?
     
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    Well?
     
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    As far as I am aware only far as medical advice interconnects with national policy i.e. in situations where advice on medical policy has the potential to impact national political policy. So for instance a call by WHO o reduce red meat consumption would have political ramifications in countries that were major exporters of beef regardless of the fact that WHO is just issuing advisings on the subject not formulating policy.
     
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    Yes it has dropped the ball on a number of occasion including the recent Ebola outbreaks in West Africa. More often than not though it hasn't 'dropped the ball'. Which is why most western nations including the US still support its work

    That position has changed.

    Which has what to do with WHO and world health policy???

    Again WTF has that got to do with WHOs work?

    The only thing that was 'murky' was trying to follow the chain of logic in your response.
     
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    Yes, it could have political ramifications, but the call to reduce red meat wouldn't be political. However, it IS political to talk about "fear and stigma."
     
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    Which outbreak was that?

    During the Corona crisis?
     
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    The WHO muppet was appeasing China when he requested that overseas countries not restrict
    their travel to and from China. Anyone with half a brain can see that the WHO is kowtowing to China,
    and when they arrive in China to "detect" the origin of the virus, you can bet any amount of money
    the announcement will be concocted by the Chinese government, and spoken word for word
    by the WHO muppet. Irrespective of your lame comments defending the WHO, opinions vary as to
    its usefulness..the comment I posted about the compilation of the UN is simply to illustrate
    how the UN is composed...the WHO is an arm of the UN...maybe next year the UN will
    invite some eskimo to take the Ethiopian muppets place....maybe Bart Simpson or Daffy Duck can
    throw their hat in the ring...they'd do a better job....
    Maybe Ethiopia can borrow a few more trillion from China if their muppet can kiss chinese
    arse a bit more and cover the whole sorry mess up with the "appropriate" announcement....
     
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    Yes. Once again ZH can be referred to. They have posted countless articles on the virus.
     
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    Any idea why it dropped the ball?

    What, now the WHO is recommending that countries ease travel to and from China?

    It's a theory as to why the WHO has recommended that no travel bans are applied. Of course, it would mean that the Ethiopian WHO leader would have to run the organisation as a dictator. And he would also have to be a puppet of the Ethiopian government. It's a stretch, but not totally implausible.

    @billy the kid's post does deviate slightly at this point into general criticism of the UN. Criticism which is most fair, considering that they demonstrated a rather strange, counter-productive - 'murky' - position by having Afghanistan as a member of it's Human Rights Council! :roflol:
     
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    Are you saying that the "muppet" got the job corruptly?
     
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    As Ive always said ...believe what you want to believe...there seems to be a lot of secrecy
    over the whole fiasco...almost as much as the sulphur in the air from the crematoriums...
    Numerous reports have suggested that the real death toll is much higher...
     
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    It could be somewhere in the middle and somewhere in the middle of 800 (reported by China) and 50,000 is still a hell of alot of people.
     
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    I am beginning to think that those dying in China may have suffered a "double whammy"
    and have become infected more than once...I know its all speculation at the moment as to
    how and why...even our grubberment (Australia) took a long time to suspend flights to and from
    China...of course our politicians have to kiss China's arse and our economy (and theirs) is likely to take quite
    a hit from the virus..this of course would be on the grubberments mind...
    I have been following the outbreak on ZH as they seem to be all over it...
    Plummers death was mysterious as was Liebers involvement/federal indictment....
    We can only hope that the virus is contained at some stage, but only time will tell....
     
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    do you think it will be worse than the common cold? lot of people die from a common cold and we do not have mandatory vaccinations either?

    the problem is Americans stranded overseas

    "CDC: 80,000 people died of flu last winter in U.S., highest death toll in 40 years"

    https://www.statnews.com/2018/09/26/cdc-us-flu-deaths-winter/
     
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    People voluntarily take on the risk by not having a flu vaccination. Also, it's mostly old people who die from flu, and I would guess that most people end up getting the flu vaccination when they hit a certain age, certainly after strong advice from their doctor. However, people are not voluntarily taking on the risk of a lethal virus which can kill people of all ages. Plus, if the flu vaccine is made mandatory, how do you enforce it? Force a needle into people? Silly comparison I'm afraid.

    Yeah, so then why make the death toll even higher by allowing Corona to spread?
     
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    Facts? No. Best guess? Partially bureaucratic inertia, partially the fact that WHO relies on information provided by member governments concerned. So in this case the info they based their decisions on was largely provided by the Democratic (insert laugh track here) Republic of Congo and neighboring governments. Garbage in = Garbage out.

    Sorry, we have a miscommunication here. I was of the belief that WHO is now in agreement with most member Nations including China regarding the need for travel restrictions.

    I would argue more than a stretch. The problem with conspiracies (of all types) is that the more persons involved the quicker they break down. (A rule I have learned from personal experience investigating conspiracies BTW)

    Yes I know. Many years ago I laughed my ass off when I learnt that Syria (FFS) had been appointed to the Human Rights Council. But as I said earlier I am in no way a defendant of the UN's internal processes and policy decisions per se. I am just standing up for WHO which (most of the time) more or less achieves what it sets out to do after a great deal of time wasting and financial inefficiency. Which still puts it miles ahead of most other arms of the UN in my book.
     
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    Where on earth did you hear that? Not only the WHO, but CHINA? Didn't you hear the Chinese Ambassador to our country crying foul about the students stranded in China trying to get back for the start of the academic year?
     
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    It's just another scare mongering tactic to follow in the footsteps of Swine flu, avian flu, sars etc. Just waiting now for a US company to announce that they have developed a vaccine that they will sell to the rest of the world for billions which will then be stored for 3 three years and go out of date ready for the next world wide scare and new vaccine. Rinse and repeat.

    Now if only that money was used to treat those that are already suffering from every day cases such as flu or pneumonia..................
     

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