World War Three is starting thanks to the Kremlin Gremlin and Bilious Bibi Netanyahoo

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  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Hamas and Iran are joined at the hip and I have no doubt whatsoever that when the facts come to light the attack on Israel was preplanned to give the fascist Zionists an excuse to commit the GENOCIDE of the Palestinians.

    NOTE: I am not anti-Israeli, I an anti-FASCIST and the Zionists are fascists who have taken over Israel. Not pro-Hamas either but given the untenable situation the fascist zionists have created I can understand their frustration because it mirrors my own dealing with our local racist white supremacist fascists here in the US.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/rus...h-carrier-killer-missiles-intelligence-2023-7

    Why use EXCESSIVE FORCE against GRAIN silos and the Ukrainian port of Odessa?

    Because Putard just ESCALATED the WAR to include VITAL supplies to the rest of the world.

    By CUTTING off these grain shipments the Kremlin Gremlin is THREATENING to use these WEAPONS of DESTRUCTION as a means to BLACKMAIL the west into no longer supporting Ukraine.

    By ESCALATING the war on TWO fronts he forces NATO to RETALIATE in kind.

    I have no idea if this tactic will work but it is a SERIOUS increase in the LEVEL of HOSTILITIES.

    The logical response is to ARM Ukraine to be able to take out these weapons but that means a SIGNIFICANT change in the current US and NATO policies. These are LONG RANGE missiles with significant capabilities, stopping them means Ukraine would be able to attack targets deeper in Russian territory.

    We are on the brink of global warfare and our own nation is DIVIDED on who to support.

    This is NOT a good place to be. FASCISM is both an external and a DOMESTIC threat to our nation.

    Your thoughts as the dark clouds of war gather overhead?
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    The idea of another global war given the players mentioned in the OP did not factor in how China will react to this escalation.

    I left it out because if China sides with the FASCISTS then global supply chains will fall apart and things will get ugly very quickly.

    The question is will that be beneficial or harmful to the ambitions of the Chinese Communist party?

    They have an endless supply of meat to throw into the war grinder so they could well prevail.

    But what happens to their economy? Can it survive WITHOUT foreign materials and customers?
     
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    You can call Israel any name you want -- but they were attacked and are being murdered. Even a dirty dog has a right to bite you if you start beating it.
     
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    So Much wrong, so little time. China is, and pretty much has been since the Maoist take over, a military dictatorship. That may not be fascist but it is sure as hell close enough. Iran at the very least funded hamas and the destruction in the middle east. That isn't Bibi's fault it is Iran's,
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There won't be any WW3, but obviously Putin is pleased to see that the "eye of Mordor" is focused on Israel and not in Ukraine.
     
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    I do think the Middle East is on the brink of a large scale crisis. To claim zionists are fascists after they were the ones to be murdered I expectedly is extreme to say the least. The fascists are the ones attacking them for existing.
     
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    Another “all geopolitical strife is caused by Jews” thread.

    Yawn.
     
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    Are you really suggesting that Israel had their own people murdered, their own women raped, and their own babies burned and beheaded so they could use it as an excuse to kill Palestinians? That's delusional.
     
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    My thoughts are why are you supporting fascism in ukraine? You seem conflicted. Did the media lie before 2022 or after?

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    Did Ukrainian fascism to whatever extent it exists rape your mom right in front of you or something?

    It would go a long way to explaining why that’s the only thing you care about.

    We get it, you want Ukraine to be wiped out by any means necessary by whoever wants to do it. Mission noted and extremely well documented
     
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    I am more optimistic than this, to tell the truth. First, Iran and Hamas are not powerful enough to start a military conflict against Israel and the East. They would need the support of other preodminantly Muslim nations. And it doesn't look like they're getting it. The attack was too barbaric. So long as Israel's response is not equally barbaric, I don't think Iran and Hamas will have much support among most Arab nations.

    Terrible as it was, I think two positive things will come out of this in the end. First, the MAIN reason why extremist Zionists took over the Israeli government was because the israeli people believed that they could keep them safe. It's now clear that they can't. I think Netanyahu's reign will be over as soon as this conflict ends. The secondi is that once Israel has had its revenge, I believe the entire west will DEMAND that they come to the negotiation table to establish a REAL two-state solution.
     
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    There is nothing worse than a binary mindset like the one this poster displays. We don't care what Ukraine does so long as they do it within their borders. It's their problem to solve whichever way they choose to solve it internally. We care about expansionism. Russia is an expansionist nation. And we need to stop them before they keep expanding. Russia must become an example for other expansionist nations.

    Israel, BTW, is also an expansionist nation. And we should reject that when the time comes. This is not that time. Right now they were victims of a barbaric attack, and they have a right to deal with that first.
     
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    So you didn't care about the ongoing genocide in ukraine for 8 years straight? Seems the Russians got tired of it and our ****. This is what happens when your support fascism....especially when US tax dollars were arming and building fascist military battalions on Russia's borders. I mean, what could go wrong with Nazis being on Russia's border again? SMH.

    Golem, word of advice. Your ukraine knowledge is noted, no need to proceed any further.
     
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    I looks like Iran is hinting at a nuclear strike. Possibly trucked into a tunnel.
    Aside from that they are pretty far away for an exposed land invasion, their navy is in the wrong water, and their aircraft are seriously outdated F4's.
     
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    Israel was attacked. Terrorist in powered paragliders firing on civilians. You understand that part right?

    Do you think it was a false flag committed by the Israelis against their self?
     
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    We will be in a world war in the next 5-10 years. Whether it starts off against Russia or Iran, we'll be fighting them both (mainly, +others) before its over. It'll be a miracle if it ends without going large scale nuclear. And the longer it takes, the more likely China gets involved. They arent yet in a position to take on 'The West' but they've been catching up a little bit more every year for many many years. As long as their fragile economy doesnt give out, they will eventually get there (and if it does give out, they might just go for a hail mary anyway), and faster now because ours is draining rapidly as we dump an avalanche of weapons and money into the hopeless Ukraine in an attempt to delay admitting that Russia won. While we largely ignore our own domestic health rotting away from neglect and inflation.

    We could prolly still avoid this impending world war, but it would require that we abandon this notion of us being the worlds nanny and policeman, and our allies taking up a more active role in contributing to the actual defense of the west instead of expecting us to project a military empire for them while they wallow in the social welfare we dream of. But thats how its been for so long, I just dont see it changing without first falling apart.
     
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    Of course! I'm VERY concerned about genocide by a foreign power like Russia committing genocide in Ukraine. I'm also concerned about genocide in China, Myanmar, Ethiopia... and all the other countries where it has happened. I DO NOT advocate militarily invading the country. And I oppose any other country invading those nations.
     
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    That could be the silver lining right there.
     
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    The irony is that B.N. as an individual was relatively restrained and cautious with using the military against Palestine (up until now). Particularly amidst the regime he is in charge of. He was so (relatively) restrained that Saudi Arabia was even considering dealing with Israel.
     
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    You are one confused individual. You are against Russia when it comes to Ukraine yet you support Hamas/Palestine who is also supported by Russia. You didn’t think it through did you?
     
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    China is a member of BRIC+. More ME countries are allying with China thanks to Biden’s incompetent administration. Oil rich countries like Venezuela is being woed by China. Unfortunately a new world order is coming and it will be a very rude awakening for free democratic countries. Our American Marxists who are helping to usher the NWO in will be very unhappy.
     
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    Sadly Golem, your Eastern European knowledge is non-existent.
     
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    Why would they think when they have media outlets and politicians to do their thinking for them?
     
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    What's the confusion? His beliefs are perfectly consistent in that they are far left officially approved positions; Russia bad, Ukraine good, and Hamas good, Israel bad. Haven't you been watching the news on what's been happening at the Ivies this week? It fits perfectly in a rather simplistic oppressor v oppressed paradigm.
     
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    I see overwhelming support for Israel, so not sure what you are talking about with "Hamas good, Israel bad". That talking point is disconnected with the reality with this incident.
     
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