World Without Oil

Discussion in 'Environment & Conservation' started by Taxcutter, Feb 20, 2012.

  1. bobgnote

    bobgnote New Member

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    You can't buy hemp GASOLINE, but if hemp were legal, instead of a Schedule I CS, you could watch someone manufacture ethanol, methanol, oil, and hurd pellets, for fuels. But the hemp seed oil is the best food oil, better than any fish, flax, or whatever, for EFA content.

    So you'll likely have to get another oil, for biodiesel. What causes you, to post tweaky rants, about hemp "gasoline?" Anybody should know you don't make gasoline, from non-petrol sources.

    Anybody should also know, you don't rely on sequestered CO2 media, forever, and we should start shifting to cyclic CO2 media, anytime, but in 1938, the US Government sold out, and FDR signed the Hemp Stamp Tax Act of 1938, just as a hemp processor was revealed, which would make hemp the number one cash crop, IN THE WORLD.
     
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    Hemp: The Cheech and Chong issue.
     
  3. bobgnote

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    Since you can't run searches or READ or WATCH VIDEOS, you missed all the Henry Ford hemp-car material, online.

    However, Cheech and Chong do have a number of movies, and one of them, Up in Smoke, In believe, features a car, made out of hemp, including buds. This is kind of funny, sort of like Clint Eastwood making a car, out of wood, or a President, out of invisible straw.
     
  4. PeakProphet

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    Oh, this is relevant. Can you please tell me which of the Fords at my local dealer I can run out and buy, in the most hemp friendly sense? Which ones are made from, run on, this magical hemp product? Certainly it would seem reasonable if you want people to buy hemp stuff, you can tell me what Ford products I can buy, because we are all familiar with pot head morons who use hemp in other exciting ways. Heck, stoners I can find on the street corners, but Ford products, they are a little harder to find I'm betting?
     
  5. bobgnote

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    You can't have a hemp-plastic Ford because hemp is a Schedule 1 CS. Awww. So go over to a car-dealer and see if one of them gives a (*)(*)(*)(*), about your RWNJ rant.
     
  6. Taxcutter

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    Bob, try to stay on topic.

    The fact you wanna get buzzed has nothing to do with oil.
     
  7. PeakProphet

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    So then I guess there won't be any kind of hemp solution in a world without oil then.

    Jiggsy, is that you in disguise? I don't know of anyone else who demonstrates the kind of dogmatic insistence on the ridiculous you are on this topic, Bob...???
     
  8. Albert Di Salvo

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    Green energy has been politicized in America. That's the kiss of death. Green energy won't be developed because of politicization. That's the way it's going to be.
     
  9. Taxcutter

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    If wind and solar were reliable, dispatchable, and economically competitive, oil would be as obsolete as rotary phones.

    But they aren't, and they cannot get past those limitations.
     
  10. PeakProphet

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    Oil is obsolete. Dead man walking, it just doesn't know it yet, and won't for a few more years. The remnants of it will stick around for decades probably, it is pretty useful stuff, but now that inroads are being made into the fat American soccer mom market, it is only a matter of time before not using liquid based fuels is as normal for them as it is for my household. Go domestic fuels! Go local economy! Kick the foreign fuel habit, buy American!
     
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    Go back to the OP to see my vision of what a world without oil looks like.

    Maybe a little better than James Fenimore Cooper's world of "Last of the Mohicans" but not much.
     
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    Go back to the OP to see my vision of what a world without oil looks like.

    Maybe a little better than James Fenimore Cooper's world of "Last of the Mohicans" but not much.
     
  13. bobgnote

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    The fact you two think you are lead singers of (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) Riot doesn't deflect from the fact that hemp yields 25,000 market-leading products, even if your cop and dealer boy-friends don't want 24,999 of those products to hit the market.
     
  14. PeakProphet

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    I certainly don't agree with such a world view, considering how little of the stuff the average person actually needs, and how easily it can be made from other things.
     
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    Just say no to Green Energy. That's what America is doing. Filibuster.
     
  16. bobgnote

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    The pubs set the crook style, of today, while the D-rats set the crook style, of yesteryear.

    Without a LEADER, in the White House, we had to put up with 2400 pages of crock, requiring private insurers, for an inflated, sick healthcare system, instead of making Medicare, for all, into a reality.

    THAT would take serious restructuring, of priorities. There would be no more drug war or dalliance, in Afghanistan, the graveyard, of invaders.
     
  17. Taxcutter

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    Actually the world without oil looks more like America in 1856. Running on coal with some nuclear power.

    The James Fenimore Cooper world of 1763, is a world without fossil fuel energy at all. Life, as Hobbes stated, was nasty, brutish, and short.
     
  18. PeakProphet

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    As long as Americans keep installing Republicrats in the White House, we certainly won't get a leader into the position.
     
  19. PeakProphet

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    Nope. When we can commute in EV powered cars, and use synthetic fuels made from natural gas, we sure don't have to choose Amish Lite as an answer to a world without oil. The true innovation of fossil fuels is the innovation, not the commodity itself. And we aren't about to forget the ensuing 150 years of innovation and ingenuity which turned a geological waste product, a useless and foul smelling substance which decreases property values, we will simply continue to use other things, exactly as we have been, and will continue to do. No oil doesn't mean humanity is suddenly struck stupid...might apply to potheads of course, but fortunately the entire world hasn't suddenly felt the urge to reach for some reefer.
     
  20. bobgnote

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    Fortunately, the Navy has made an end-run, to produce algal biofuels.

    That means the idiocy, of calling anyone a pot-head, who wants 24,999 products from hemp, leaving pot out does not completely gay up the bath-house, except since 1938.

    Hit search: "Ford, diesel, hemp, car, engine." The tech is old, but when FDR decided to retard biofuels, for timber, oil, and prison cartels, he did it, and then he turned right around and whacked the intel, into Pearl.

    Hit search: "DARPA, algae, biofuels, NAVY, Shoalhaven One."

    Shoalhaven One just opened, August 2, 2012. This won't be your $26 per gallon french-fry oil biofuel. This is DIFFERENT.
     
  21. Taxcutter

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    "The true innovation of fossil fuels is the innovation..."

    Taxcutter says:
    Innovation is easily squelched by regulation, litigation, or taxation. All of which afflict America far too much.
     
  22. PeakProphet

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    Well, sure they do. But it is a relative concept, they afflict everyone else even MORE, giving us an advantage.
     
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    Nobody on earth has the degree of regulation, taxation, and litigation the US has. The US has lost its competitive edge to regulation, litigation, and taxation. That's where the jobs went.
     
  24. bobgnote

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    What is interesting is the US Republicans own corporate media AND the Republicrats, which both make regulation, prison, oil, and Israel an American and world way of life, to feed a special-interest corporate fascist socialist nuisance, but no Republican or Republicrat will admit, to failure of their consensus methods, of regulation, generally, all the way, to ending corrupt war on drugs and Islam.

    The US wages gang war, with a big, old carbon footprint.
     
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    Too often when I read discussions on this subject, no one pays any attention to the role of technological innovation.

    For example this article about some of the new technologies helping to make the Alberta Tar Sands significantly cleaner, and more efficient...
     

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