Would you like to be photosynthetic?

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  1. spt5

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    I was told that they will make my sentence heavier if I don't pull the plug on the planet. But I have good news, I negotiated that all photosynthetic life forms and all others that survive on inorganic sources can stay alive. So, would you like to be converted to a photosynthetic person?
     
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    I like a bit of a dance. Will I still be able to dance? What kind of a plant will I be, or will I be a plant? You'll have to provide more details of what photosynthetic actually means to you.

    Now as you know, we touched on this before, where I said it's barbaric how animals must kill other animals to live and it's high time scientists fulfilled some useful purpose and provided us with non-organic alternatives. You said that has already been done and quoted photosynthesis, I think. But it has not already been done, because I can't live via photosynthesis and until I can, I have to eat beautiful animals.

    When are you going to resolve this and fill the gap in the market?
     
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    I like dancing too, and yes, you keep your shape and movements. Even many plants don't use their roots for nutrition, all that is needed for photosynthesis is present in air. Ask the high altitude versions of Rhododendrons for example. Your body must turn green though and you will be restricted to outfits that are transparent in the far ends of the red and violet spectra of colors.

    The technology to achieve this is to reverse the discriminative differentiations that the Pranksters imposed on Earth a billion years ago or so. Because of them, now, life forms form physically and "mentally" independent units as a result, and they have to compete to survive by eating up each other and multiplying.
     
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    So that's why I'm always hungry.
     
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    Viv Banned by Request

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    Green is a colour I wear. Red and purple I like to look at in stained glass and lanterns so transparent is ok, but wearing purple I look like I died during the night...:omg:...so no...

    It might be present in the air, but I'm not absorbing it instead of food. Ok we absorb and use some nutrients like vitamin D from the sun and your rhododendrons live on free fresh air. Why is it impossible to adapt that ability to "feed" humans/animals?
     
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    HAHAHAHA This is very good. :mrgreen:
     
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    What kind of outfits would look best if your skin was green?

    With a lot of experimentation, we can probably get to it. After all, originally, all plant life started with cyanobacteria that were "animals" before they started photosynthesis and turned into plants. That was a genetic transformation that rearranged their metabolism, to mostly ignore organic energy sources. So, since nature did it before, then who knows, playing enough with modern genetic engineering technologies, we can do it too.

    If you could change your look/shape in the process, would you?
     
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    Only if I could take at least 50 years off of my age. But remain the way I am now.
     
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    Probably mayo or thousand island dressing.

    Under what circumstances did they evolve into plants? Why did they do it, what was the environment that caused it?

    No, I'm very happy in my skin.
     
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    spt & Viv , wow , pass that over here .
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    I'd love to be photosynthetic.

    It'd save a lot of money on food because I'd never have to eat ever again!

    :mrgreen:
     
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    Yummm.

    My school project included a google of the Ordovician geological period, and I found that when organic resources ran out at that time, the life forms running on organic resources got the ones running inorganic to enter them and provide "food" for "shelter". Then, eventually, their genetics combined, and they were the 1st plants. Organisms running inorganic metabolism didn't start out with photosynthesis though, they developed it out of their chemosynthesis using the thermal energy of deep oceanic volcanic vents. Chemosynthesis became photosynthesis when life spread and reached the upper regions of ocean water where light was present.

    What may be interesing is that predatory style competition didn't start on Earth as the life forms used their biological adaptation abilities to change with the changing resources. It was like the cells of a body, that is a "non-competitive agreement". Then, something happened in the Cumbrian period, and the whole system disintegrated, losing "communication" between the organisms, and thus giving an opportunity for "cannibalism".

    Do you mean including the color of it too?
     
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    Only if you stop being vegetarian. :mrgreen:
     
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    Same here.

    I hate working only to eat up all my results.
     
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    Not really. Don't want to be forced to spend most of my time naked in the sun. It's a bit impractical. I prefer to eat photosynthetic organisms and their predators.
     
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    You can live just fine on plants, if you truly believe the drivel you posted about barbarism of eating animals. Humans, with a bit of care, can live totally on plant based diets.
     
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    Think about a plant the size of you? It simply doesn't absorb enough energy from sunlight in order to allow an animal your size to live. There are animals that have symbiotic algae that feed them. They are mostly sessile (live attached to something) and have low metabolic rates.

    The total amount of solar energy per square foot is about 450 calories per day At best, photosynthesis can harness about 10% of that, or 45 calories per square foot. A typical human female has a total surface area of 1.6 square meters, or 17.2 square feet. Assume half of that is exposed to 100% sun, or, 8.6 square feet. In calories, that is 387 calories. Not nearly enough to survive. Heck, even total surface area would be about 760 calories, still not nearly enough to survive IF you lived like a plant and stayed in the sun all day.
     
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    "Cannibalism" won.
     
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    But, do you know how much many people are always prepared to pay to see some others naked?

    That is not a drivel. By the way, it is more barbaric to eat plants than animals, because there are a lot less plants that are ready to go at you than animals.

    A 17.2 ft^2 woman? Would it be a skinny one (that I like) or a not-so-skinny one (that likes me)? :mrgreen:

    Your calculation is only true if you disregard all light absorbing carbon based molecular structures, except the one classic plant chlorophyl that works at 2 narrow spectral bands in the infra red and ultra violet. Current technology has already developed photochemical processes that are spectrally wider, thus much more efficient, than 10 %. (E.g. phtalocyanine, blue in color, is over 40 % efficient, that would bring up a woman's calory budget to the regular ~ 1500 cal at minimum.)

    But I really wouldn't want to be the next one on the plate. (No matter how much the new business environment takes away from me.) I admire your eagerness to sacrifice yourself.
     
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    Well, personally, I don't think it's barbaric to eat either plants or animals, I think it's simple-minded to think that somehow eating inorganic would be superior.


    Do you even understand what that figure meant? That was a measurement of the surface area of a typical woman.

    Found no evidence of phtalocyanine being able to be part of photosynthesis. The only biologically relevant thing I've found about phtalocyanine is that it causes cancer. In terms of real biology, about the highest efficiency of photosynthesis is 10%.



    The point is life evolved to eat other life for a reason.
     

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