You can't sue if you are injured by Covid 19 vaccines, government won't compensate either

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  1. phoenyx

    phoenyx Well-Known Member

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    Just found this article form CNBC. It's a little over a month old, but I don't see anyone else making an article of it, so thought it would be good to put it up. Constructive feedback welcome.

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    You can’t sue Pfizer or Moderna if you have severe Covid vaccine side effects. The government likely won’t compensate you for damages either

    KEY POINTS
    • Under the PREP Act, companies like Pfizer and Moderna have total immunity from liability if something unintentionally goes wrong with their vaccines.
    • A little-known government program provides benefits to people who can prove they suffered serious injury from a vaccine.
    • That program rarely pays, covering just 29 claims over the last decade.

    If you experience severe side effects after getting a Covid vaccine, lawyers tell CNBC there is basically no one to blame in a U.S. court of law.

    The federal government has granted companies like Pfizer and Moderna immunity from liability if something unintentionally goes wrong with their vaccines.

    “It is very rare for a blanket immunity law to be passed,” said Rogge Dunn, a Dallas labor and employment attorney. “Pharmaceutical companies typically aren’t offered much liability protection under the law.“

    You also can’t sue the Food and Drug Administration for authorizing a vaccine for emergency use, nor can you hold your employer accountable if they mandate inoculation as a condition of employment.

    Congress created a fund specifically to help cover lost wages and out-of-pocket medical expenses for people who have been irreparably harmed by a “covered countermeasure,” such as a vaccine. But it is difficult to use and rarely pays. Attorneys say it has compensated less than 6% of the claims filed in the last decade.

    Immune to lawsuits

    In February, Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar invoked the Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act. The 2005 law empowers the HHS secretary to provide legal protection to companies making or distributing critical medical supplies, such as vaccines and treatments, unless there’s “willful misconduct” by the company. The protection lasts until 2024.
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    Full article here:
    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/16/covid-vaccine-side-effects-compensation-lawsuit.html
     
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  2. Capt Nice

    Capt Nice Well-Known Member

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    That's sort of a DUHHHH. Neither would you be able to sue any one if you died from COVID.
     
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  3. phoenyx

    phoenyx Well-Known Member

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    Looks like we've gotten to the point where we're comparing diseases to the vaccines that are allegedly meant to prevent them -.-
     
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  4. fiddlerdave

    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Uh, no.

    If someone feels to have a claim for a vaccine industry, there are special courts to fairly easily to get care and support from a damage from a provable vaccine injury. Doesn't even special circumstances like has been needed for other kinds of lawsuits. Getting the millions of damages that almost never result from other kinds of lawsuits anyway. A vaccine industry is fast and it pays medical, work losses, and other real damages and the victims get real care.

    Or you can step the vaccines, get sick and or die, and you get nothing regardless of the severity of your disability or death or care.

    The vaccine shots range from free up to $100 or so for more rare vaccines.

    Its a deal. Especially, like for COVID, our anti-vaxx people that a few people are showing a slight possiblity of illness compared to MILLIONS of jabs.
     
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    and republican want to make it so you can't sue if you catch covid at work due to unsafe working conditions
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    if anyone fears taking the vaccine, step aside and let those that want it, take it first.... I know I am still waiting

    by the time we have all taken it, you will see it's safe, then you can reevaluate your position
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    do republicans want foreigners coming to the USA that have not been vaccinated? will other countries want Americans going there that have not been vaccinated?

    do republicans want unvaccinated people working in old folks homes?
     
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    I will get it if it's voluntary, I will not if it's mandatory.
     
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    I will get it as the risk from the vaccine is far, FAR less than the risk I would face if I got the disease and developed symptoms, which is likely in my case.

    Whom I could or couldn't sue is not really a concern. In one case because I would likely be dead and in the other because I would be alive
     
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    I don't agree. Children's Health Defense actually did a video on the Covid 19 vaccines, I think it's well worth a look:
     
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    Sigh...

    Yes, these groups like this
    "Children's Health Defense" (quotes because the name has been changed before) are great anti-vaxers who claim lots vitamin C and other expensive supplements are way better medicine than vaccines!

    Despite that things like thimerosal have been exhaustively tested for links, and thimerosal has been pretty much eliminated anyway.

    But lots of blather about unsubstantiated problems from the sub-nano quantities of aluminum, so make sure watch out for a those couple of aluminum atoms in your dinner! But I wonder what atoms like aluminum, carbon, baron used it processing food at the grocers?

    The terrors that lurk around are everywhere, which makes the 500,000 deaths from COVID and the associated couple serious illnesses something to ignore! We know some extra Vitamins and children and adults never need be fearful of COVID, measles, autism etc again!
     
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    phoenyx Well-Known Member

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    Did you actually take a look at the video?
     
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    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes.

    She is bringing up an amazing amount of BS sprinkled with a variety of stories with little and confused basis of fact.

    But her one little lawsuit contribution has no positive sensible point.

    But I am sure she will make good profits terrifying parents into selling LOTS of vitamins while ignoring lifesaving vaccines.

    BTW, where are the studies showing how avoiding any children vaccines means those children never get autism?

    Right, there are none. Hundreds of studies ALL show there is NO correlation for vaccines and autism.
     
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    But you don't know what the risks are as far as the vaccine without some sort of evidence as to whom is having these reactions and why. There is a case of a healthy doctor who apparently died (maybe out of Florida). The problem is that people are too quick to dismiss adverse reactions based on probabilities as opposed to thoroughly investigating what causes certain people to have adverse, even fatal reactions to the jabs. Maybe it is a drug interaction. Maybe it is an underlying allergy that is identifiable. Who knows at this point.
     
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    Yes. This one:
    https://nypost.com/2021/01/13/pfizer-cdc-probing-death-of-florida-doctor-who-took-covid-19-vaccine/

    He's also not the only case where people suspect the covid 19 vaccine resulted in the death of the vaccinated individual. I wrote a thread on this:
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...norway-investigates-33-deaths-germany.584294/
     
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    It's rare enough that I don't care either. COVID is an agonizing way to die and to me would be a near certainty. Taking the vaccine is like walking in a field where there are a very few hidden bear traps vs climbing El Capitan without ropes. I definitely don't want to do either but the bear traps are preferred if I must.
     
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    This, in my opinion is a good reason to personally prefer to be treated with

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043740/

    "Ivermectin, ‘Wonder drug’ from Japan: the human use perspective"
    .... both as a preventative as well as as a treatment for COVID 19 as opposed to taking the vaccine?

    I was shown an exceptional video interview about this today from Australia where the media is more free to inform the public than seems to be the case in North America.

     
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    Unbelievable!

    More than 40 MILLION jabs of the vaccine.

    ONE person dies a week later, and NO way has been determined why.

    40 million shots, ONE DEAD!

    Yet the anti-vaxers suggest its better to take a unregulated (for COVID use), worm and parasite medication (mostly preferred for horses and cattle) than use a vaccine.

    Sounds legit! :roflol:
     
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    Which is why the gov't can't mandate getting a vacine.
    That makes them liable.
     
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    Technically speaking, the shots are not vaccines. They are injected medical devices, nanoparticles meant to modify the RNA of the recipient.

    Under FTC rules, Moderna and Pfizer are in violation.

    Dr. David Martin explains it clearly.
     
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    Some who are against these alleged vaccines stills they're vaccines. I think the thing to remember though, is regardless of whether they are vaccines or not, the important thing is, are they more harmful than helpful? I think that answer to that is a clear yes. A friend of mine here pointed me to the following video on these vaccines, with Dr. Sherri Tenpenny, a Dr. who I think has done a lot of good work regarding vaccine research:
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/HsoaftPNOsMe/
     
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    As millions of frightened people stand in line to be injected with an experimental substance, it appears the Herd Stupidity has reached critical mass. It is testimony to the efficacy of the Fauci Fear Campaign so greatly enabled by mainstream media.
     
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    Oh, yeah! She survived into the grand age of 62. Hey, she must be healthy!

    This snakeoil peddler Tenpenny hasn't done any "vaccine research". She hasn't even shown any actual proof of the utterly discredited idea that vaccine causes autism!

    Her list of clear and blatant lies and fanciful and self-serving stories are wackdoodle fodder for terrified parents.

    She does good snakeoil!
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    You don't know a charlatan and snakeoil peddler when you see one, but that's old news. Anthony Fauci is a Supreme Charlatan, and you've bought every ounce of deception he has dispensed. :knifefork:
     
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    I don't think so. They fit the front line worker category and were approved for vaccination on day one.
     
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