You own the closest potentially habitable planet...

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  1. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

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    Left their run til too late in the season?
     
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    Nope. I said the over 60's would have to be super fit and have very particular expertise.
     
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    Expecting it to be perfect would be the first mistake.

    No knowing why race/religion/money etc is on your radar. Utility is the only consideration AFAIK. And that would be the better solution. Ignore all but utility, and you'd have some hope of survival. The Amish would qualify, for that reason. Their faith is quite irrelevant to their utility.
     
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    I fantasize about a planet more perfect than earth with fresh water oceans and lakes and ankle deep water in some places that extends over thousands of miles. It also has great areas of forests and grassland. The planet is not tilted on its axis and is warmer at the equator than at the icy polar caps. Just one season and mild weather. The gravity is very close to earth. The nights are more like twilight because it never gets fully dark. And the dream builds and changes from there. I just don't know how to make my Cantina work. A place very far away from a tourist trade. The dream goes on and changes from there.
     
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    And, I should have remained in the land of fun thought experiment, like I think the OP intended.
     
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    Take a long time to get there in a horse drawn spaceship.
     
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    I have trouble coming up with a name but Utopia sounds like a good one. I also dream....since I am old. Of something in the mix on this planet extends human life to hundreds or thousands of years. And large deposits of a diamond like substance that can propel a very powerfull and fast warp drive. It can also be used in starships to create an artificial gravity. Until now the stuff was made in small quantities And cost a very large fortune for a teaspoon of the stuff.And there are mountains of the stuff. It is a product of intense gravity. Matter collapsed upon itself and reformed. The energy of 10,000 supernovas in a square meter. Fuel to make it the richest planet in any galaxy. And I will claim it for myself.
     
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  8. politicalcenter

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    I would send a research team to the surface of the planet. We need to find food or the way to manufacture or grow it. Since the whole planet is covered in fresh water it must be a new planet. We need a way to test the inhabitants of this world for human consumption. And building materials. Will the planet provide us with a plant that we can use like wood or can we make some form of concrete. And this is Utopia. Better living conditions can't be found. And we still have monumental problems.
     
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    We don't have to send humans there for that.

    For example, we know the issues with agriculture for Mars - and all the other planets in our solar system.
     
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    Suppose this is a thought experiment about the possibility of settling another planet. It ain't no fun without humans. And after a human consumed an alien product we would have a good understanding of the effects. Unless you want to do something like a story about robotic researchers. It might work.
     
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    Even in the land of make believe, it would be a requirement that an unmanned examination be undertaken.

    We're doing that with the Moon even now. In the process of sending a human to the Moon, the first missions are going to be investigatory and oriented to building infrastructure, such as landing pad, cosmic ray protection, etc.
     
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    I would assume that this was taken care of before people were sent there. I didn't consider the idea of housing being already built. I was thinking of a planet that is pretty earth like and the possibility of being able to harvest food and build housing in that environment. In other words......the ability to thrive like a bacteria in a Petri dish.
     
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    Talking of bacteria.
    Any Earth like planet is likely to be full of bacteria and viruses that humans have had no previous exposure to.
    It would also need a magnetic field, breathable air, a narrow temperature range etc or we'd all be living nasty confined lives in pods or underground.
    I can't imagine any planet being anywhere near as suitable for human life as the one we evolved to thrive on, Earth.
     
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    A planet with fresh wa
    There are billions upon billions and trillions of stars. And it is beginning to look like they all have planets.
     
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    True but the number which could support life is much smaller and those which could support human life smaller still and they are all a very long way away.
    It's a fun thought experiment but of little practical use.
     
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    I wonder how you find 10,000 people willing to take a trip that will take about 100,000 years with current technology.
     
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    There is no point on traveling that long to visit another planet. Not in my mind anyway. I would require much less time to arrive. Less than 10 years. A planet covered with fresh water lakes and oceans could be a heck of a resort area. The fishing alone.....if it had fish. Imagine fishing a lake that had never been fished before. Or virgin forests covering the land. New animals, new plants.
     
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    The nearest star is 30,000 years away,
     
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    Yes, but very easy to get there in the imaginination, in very little time.
     
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    It is an idea to develop systems to survive in deep space. Like a balanced system that mimics mother nature. Gravity for a long journey would could a problem and radiation might also need to be addressed. If we are to take voyages to other star systems we may have to evolve to live in 0 gravity. Then we would probably be unfit for a planet with a stronger gravity.
     
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    And how would a human adapt to a higher gravity and how much is too much?
     
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    Who said anything about current technology?
     
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    Assumption. It is the only technology we have.
     
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    Well my assumption was that this was a thought experiment dealing with the present day and technology except for the spaceship and there being a habitable planet. Apparently I was mistaken on that.
     
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    I don't know. I was just providing some input.
     

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