Zimmerman Trial Day 4 (Diamond edition)

And not smudged a bit from being in contact with wet ground.

And never having flowed down hill across his chignon.

 

The defense wants you believe it only rained on Martins hands & fingernails so that's why there was no DNA or Blood .... LOL.

 

The lynch mob is in such a frenzy they can't keep a handle on the very basics.

 

I was just wondering how Zimmy has all his forensic evidence preserved and Martins' was not ... well except for the gunshot wound (particulants & stippling)

 

Good thing you're not working with the state... they've already got problems making their case (as if they ever had one in the first place) and your speculations would surely seal the deal that would send GZ walking away a free man.

 

I watched an episode of Judge Judy two teenagers were in a fight fist to fist. It was mutual because one had instigated and one struck first. So in the course of the fight the one who instigated got a brick and smashed the other girl. The girl who got the brick lost because it was a non life threatening fight being hand to hand until she got the brick or bat lol i dont remember the weapon. So they end up on the grass so no more life threatening action from having his head beaten into the pavement. Even if Zimmerman wins he will end up like OJ sued in a civil and lose. He is screwed

 

it looks more like frank taffe: nancy grace's snuggle bunny.

 

so you are saying rain doesn't contaminate crime scenes? watching too much csi i see.

 

I am a firearms collector and sport shooter, so I spend a lot of time researching this sort of thing. I was a soldier for 14 years so I had to learn a lot of it.

I lived in an Army medical center for about a year and, being an ortho patient, I was selected to perform CQ duties a lot. (Had to have at least one person with his head bolts torqued right to keep the psych patients in line.) Medical Hold shared a CQ office with the Med Company. I spent a lot of time discussing such things with the patient care specialists. One of them was part of an Army study on wound ballistics. He had a pile of literature on the results. Here's an abridged version of it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrostatic_shock

 

Got proof that Martin was left-handed?

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I mean you people who know squat about guns or blood.

 

statistically speaking im not a statistician but i bet the cases of people who know they are being followed whether its a rape victim, robbery, assault, etc. ..Turning around to attack the person who they think is the aggressor is minuscule. They run and then they fight to survive.

 

Two people.....both with cell phones.....one called the police.....who was the aggressor? One called the other a "creepy white cracka".....the other spoke no racial epithets.....who was teh racist?. Been playing tourist all day again so I missed most of the testimony today. Just curious.......did the prosecution ever put forth their theory as to how GZ sustained all of these injuries?.......or are they holding back that for the "deus ex machina"...........LMAO at the silliness of this whole charade.

 

"Dum Dum" has DESTROYED the state's case, and now we learn that she was picked up ,and INTERVIEWED as a WITNESS, while SITTING NEXT TO MARTIN's MOTHER, as COMPLETE COLLAPSE of procedure, which illustrates the utter CORRUPTION of this entire prosecution.

 

How do you think the firearm caused that injury again ? I don't mean the lines matching or anything , I mean what action was george taking , or what was he doing ...when the gun hit his face ? Like how did it hit his face ?

 

The agresssor is the one who instigates most times. But to go a little deeper Trevon Martin was black he didnt know who that guy was whether police or stalker. Black teenagers run from cops or they call their boyz to come help not talk on the phone with his stick girl. He was trying to go home and keep someone who knew his situation on the line. The phone dropped it wasnt placed down immediate reaction of someone who is being attacked is to drop everything. The immediate reaction of someone who is in plan of attack is to prepare

 

The 'wild card' in this ridiculous trial(in a sane world it would never have been brought to trial) is the jury.....an all woman jury composed of women who either are 'clueless' ...who else could qualify for the jury?... or were good enough liars to convince the prosecution and defense teams that they had heard little or nothing about the case and had no opinions of it.....but could have a very strong personal agenda to pursue.

Therefore there is no telling what this jury might do. I think our jury system is simply ill equipped to function as intended in such a high profile case...... the details of which (some true...though many were not)have been thrust upon people all across the nation(what intelligent person would not have heard enough about this case to disqualify them?)

The defense joke at the beginning of the trial nailed it precisely...though I have no idea why he would tell it to the jury...my best guess is that the joke was enjoying popularity in the tight knit judicial world down there and west simply could not refrain from telling something he thought was very funny....and in a sense highly relevant...but to tell it to the jury??? Now I am not a psychologist and perhaps he is more attune to the psychological effects of such a joke than I am....it certainly got people talking..and perhaps thus was meant as a diversion.

To get back to the actual case though...........what everyone can agree on and what the evidence absolutely proves....is that Trayvon chose not to go home...he had more than enough time to get home...which was very,very close. As West pointed out already...he could have gone home and come back and gone back home several times during the length of time it took this incident to go down....and the theory that has been floated on this board that trayvon did not want George to follow him home is ridiculous...he had lost George...he was a swift runner...George was fat and out of shape...thus trayvon would have had no problem at all on a dark and rainy night of getting home without George knowing where he went.

So...logically the question is....why did Trayvon not go home and what did he do during all that time?

Now I have no doubt anyone who can think logically and analytically with some experience or knowledge of people like George and trayvon...would have any doubt or illusion about what happened.

I will spell it out anyhow....it is very,very simple......Trayvon was pissed that some white cracker was following him(he may have been casing the neighborhood before George arrived on the scene)his girl friend confirmed he was pissed off about that. So....he ran and hid somewhere so he could observe George to get some idea of what he was up against....he came to the conclusion he could take down the cracker and thus he did...his big mistake...assuming George was unarmed.

George was very fortunate to be able to get his weapon out and dispose of the thug before he was knocked unconscious...he would then have been at the mercy of his attacker....trayvon may well have spotted georges pistol and used it to kill George if he had succeeded in knocking George out.

On the other side of the coin ...people who are obsessed with black victimhood politics have a closed mind and no matter how much evidence or logic they are presented with will cling to their agenda...no matter what. Such people ...very similar people with similar political agendas have sent millions to their deaths with no second thought about it...in other countries...so do you really think these people would mind sending one single innocent man to jail for the rest of his life in order to pursue and satisfy their agenda? Of course not.

The bottom line is that we have become a nation of fools...obsessed with political correctness and the fallacious concept of racism and or the myth of racism.

George is thus in great danger of being convicted for something which he is absolutely innocent of. I think the most he can hope for is a hung jury.

 

Would you lead a stalker to your front door where you sleep? Would you let a rapist follow you to your house? Would you let a gang member see where your parents live(only saying that because how they portrait Trevon) Would you let the cops to your house when you smoke weed? Or would you try to lose them first and then proceed home because it scared your butt off. A teenage mind that has watch t.v. and knows from movies to lose the guy first. Is obviously way smarter than an Adult who says why didnt he go home first. No offense to you just trying to prove that you cant think for another adolescent. Their minds are wandering and only controlled by what they have seen not what they should know. To be followed is a threat when you are doing nothing wrong. An average citizen being followed because some guy just wants to follow him is threatening and aggressive to a teenager who is still in the dont get into strange cars or dont drink what people give you in a party to a girl. So why not apply the same standard to a teenage boy who is being followed at night for no reason other than I THINK HE ISNT SUPPOSE TO BE HERE!!!!!


George Zimmerman is trained to be a police officer he patrolled the streets. C'mon a smoker to a non smoker who is an adult no contest. Then add teenager to the equation........ He played football so what he smoked weed he wasnt that committed. He was just doing his thing. He wasnt the star he wasnt ripped from countless hours in the weight room. I played football he was the jokester in the lockeroom that had talent and was falling into the life of peer pressure. He was a young adult who didnt have a care in the world and no responsibilities versus someone who took his responsibilities too far. Its the neighborhood watch not the neighborhood follow!!!!

 

So Trayvon has grass stains on his pants' knees.....and the gunpowder splatter indicates that his hoodie and tee-shirt were 3-4 inches from his skin at the time of the gunshot I.e. hanging down due to gravity.......when is the prosecution going to introduce this vital evidence in the name of justice.....oh, never mind......

 

CNN/HLN simply has no journalistic credibility at this point......Nancy Grace just brought on the "audio analyst" who was disqualified from testifying......but Nancy forgot to mention that.....how does she not mention that.......they are simply not a journalistic organization.....this is nothing but a ratings bonanza for them.....as long as they can keep the ball bouncing with the masses by telling lies....pathetic

 

nancy wants frank taffe too.

 

Witness 8. Most credible eva.

If this had been an Appalachian defense star witness for Zimmerman... oh nm.

She asked if the lawyer was retarded. The TM supporters were calling her retarded till that happened. But then a few pages later... they had convinced themselves that the retard was beating the (*)(*)(*)(*) out of the defense lawyers. It was a bit surreal. TM was on the phone with her longer than her testimony was.

She lied.

She was coached.

She had to give testimony in front of the dead boys mother.

She can't read. I feel terrible for her... but her testimony is not helpful at all to the prosecution. She didn't write the letter she wrote. While my heart breaks that precious does not understand the world around her... I do not find her testimony credible. The only racism here went the other way. TM, the aggressor, actually used racial slurs... and while the media doctored tapes and accused Z of using racial slurs... the star witness for the prosecution... uses racial slurs because... "that's how we talk" where she comes from.

And this case was built on race baiting, the other direction.

With regard to retard... I don't care if you find it offensive. I played classical music, on a serious level. Retard means slow. I will not allow the appropriate term to be slandered because hillbillies pronounce it incorrectly. Retard. Slow. It is not offensive. Assaulting the language is offensive.

 

So if someone is overweight that automatically makes them lazy in your book. What is disgusting about her?

 

Clueless.

Describe for us exactly what Trayvon saw that night up to the confrontation at the T.

Would it differ from this (I'll play Trayvon)?

There was a guy in a truck and he seemed to be looking at me and following me (while driving).

Then i see the same guy (after i run for whatever reason, maybe cause "Black teenagers run from cops") walking with a flashlight.

That's it.

Where does stalking come from in Trayvons mind?

A rapist, really?

Gangbanger?

Scared?

Scared of what?

Zimmerman actions could just as well be the actions of a person looking for a lost dog.

 

I think it was a bad day for Zimmerman. If trayvon is on the phone when the fight starts, there is no reasonable fear that this will be anything more then a regular fit fight and hard to see how he can start the fight with one hand while talking. You don't get to kill people because they are winning a fist fight.