Zimmerman Trial Opening Statements 9AM

How dare You.How G-d@mn dare you and guys like Sharpton who decide what
a neighborhood watch guy could or should do.
I have YET to hear any Trayvon defender say :{Well maybe Trayvon
shouldn't have been hanging around and loitering.} Given he was a guest.
Imagine a guest at a Country Club walking the grounds as if he owned the place.
Same thing.

 

Tracy martins violent crimes had a major impact on Martin .

 

I'm a little behind on the history here.What Tracy Martin crimes.?

 

now you are getting it. i agree trayvon was stupid, suspicious and looked like a thug.....kudos for telling the truth.

 

What Tracy Martin crimes.? Has something come out { bar Mitvah} about Pops
I haven't read about. ? I've been kinda busy today.

 

i don't know much about that. it seems this is some of margot's stuff.

 

Oh ... Me oh My.What a lucky Guy.These Martins.

 

I did see that....LOL,,,what a bunch of Bias BS,,,unbelievable. Actually the entire thing has been like this with MSNBC. I watched today and the majority thought DeeDee was just GRAND,,,,hahahahahahahahahh My Lord, if there is a cork in that ship it just popped....

Meanwhile DeeDee says Travon called Zimmerman a white ass Cracker and didn't blink an eye. Yet everyone of those hypocrites were studying the dispatcher calls praying they could catch Zimmerman making a racial slur...
Has the entire world gone nuts?, nobody sees this?

 

Rachel is an EXCELLENT witness. She is honest and straight forward. She admitted lying on issues totally UNRELATED to her testimony about the 26th of February, and her emotion was heart wrenching for anyone with a heart.

She NEVER deviated from her first statement, but filled in details, good, bad or indifferent, but all REAL, including the "White ass cracker," which is in no way worse than the "those F... A. . H...., they always get away!"

By the way. . .do you know the definition of that expression?

Here it is:

And, I am observing that clearly bias positions are NOT solely the attribute of the Martin supporters, or of lowly posters!

 

Sorry to contradict you.

But YOU KNOW about "that."

You know that the reported "criminal records in different States" for the name Tracy Martin are NOT for Trayvon's father, but for FOUR DIFFERENT people named Tracy Martin, including ONE woman and a WHITE man.

Margot posted the link to those four records, with the picture of the four Tracy Martin.

Honesty would be a nice change.

 

Some idiot claimed that Tracey Martin had criminal records in 4 states. I proved him wrong.. One was female.. two were young blacks and one was white..

Of course he simply ignored the links and took a powder.

 

The ones INVENTED by people who are stopping at NOTHING, even outright lies, to throw dirt on the Martin.

The one referred to by the previous poster are in fact NOT the Tracy Martin who is known as Trayvon's father, but FOUR different individuals who have NOTHING in common (not even the race, in two of the case) with Trayvon's father.

How desperate can people be to be so dishonest? I have no idea!

Margot posted this yesterday:

 

They told him to let them know what he did and it was not unreasonable to exit the truck in order to do that especially when they said let us know which way he runs.

You don't know that, show me a picture from the truck which illustrates that it could be seen from there which way a person ran at the T junction.

And then the key point, what does it have to do with anything with regard to did Zimmerman have a reasonable fear of serious bodily harm if the beating to which he was being subjected to continued. You do realize the fact that it was Zimmerman who was being beaten has pretty much been established by the evidence including the testimony in the courtroom.

 

Trayvon wasn't following George.. Do you not see the difference? I would not have called George a white azzed cracker.. I would have called him bukra, white trash and moron.

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Why do you quibble when you haven't looked at the slide show of the property?

 

It has already been established (by Zimmerman himself in fact, since he was able to tell the dispatcher PRIOR to leaving his truck that the "suspect" was going toward the back entrance) that Zimmerman DIDN"T need to leave his truck to follow Martin, and that HE KNEW that from the many previous phone calls where he DID follow proper neighborhood watch rules.

 

It's actually an arrest record in 5 states .

 

So post his mugshot... I asked you to do that yesterday.. and you ran like a scalded dog.

 

So what? You claimed he pursued Martin which insinuates and attempt to capture. There is no evicence Zimmerman was attempting to capture Martin or that he had the ability to do so. To have detain Martin in any way shape or manner would have been a violation of the law. I have no reason to believe Zimmerman was looking to violate the law after he had just called for the police and urged them to get there and given the dispatcher his name.

He had every right to exit his truck and it was a perfectly reasonable act. Martin had run off and Zimmerman was NOT pursuing him but observing where he went.

None of which even we were to accept your portrayal of events 100% would have given Martin the right to assault and threaten Zimmerman with serious bodily harm or death.

"Stand your ground" involves using deadly force. Martin had NO right to use deadly force against Zimmerman for Zimmerman never present and imminent threat of serious bodily harm or death to Martin. Martin in fact had exited the scene and Zimmerman had no idea where he was.

Zimmerman did as a reasonable person may have done. He gave Martin no reason nor right to assault him.

So you are saying Martin posed a mortal danger to Zimmerman simply because Zimmerman had been observing him and followed his path down the sidwalk? That is all it takes to give someone the right to use deadly force against someone else?

Down between the buildings but obvious Martin was able to see Zimmerman walk across the T junction from down by the apartment where he was staying and to which he had run.

It is quite clear that is what he was doing as he was trying to see if he could see where Martin had run to........................so what?

You left out to stop the assault to which he was being subjected.

 

That's funny , must have learned that from you when asked to prove

1 . George said his mom abused him

2 . That you knew , but didnt want to expose , an unknown witness to all .

3 . Proof of martins friends arrested record .


Should I keep going ?

 

Why did any of that given Martin the right to use deadly force against Zimmerman and deny Zimmerman the right to defend himself against it?

Are you ignorant of the fact this is not a stand your ground defense?

 

Is that an admission that you will not be able to provide the proof that Tracy Martin, TRAYVON'S FATHER, has a criminal record. . .much less 4?

 

So are you still claiming Zimmerman violated the assault and stalking laws Margot? You ran away in the other thread. I haven't heard the prosecution use either term of make such an claim.

 

It's in the evidence dumps , check the evidence dumps .

 

Don't tell me that you took up that silly (ridiculous in fact) concept of a "concrete sidewalk" as a "deadly weapon!"

Now. . .if Martin had REALLY Wanted to use a weapon (and it might have been able to do some real damage. . .maybe), he had a very large full can of tea in his pocket. . .Do you have any idea what Martin COULD HAVE done with that can of tea to beat Zimmerman up?

But...obviously Martin didn't mean to "attack" Zimmerman, only to defend himself from being RESTRAINED by this "old ass cracker."

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I have looked at evidence dumps. I am NOT going to spend another 6 hours going through every bit of it to find an elusive document. Please provide the exact page and date of the document. All FOUR of the criminal charges you stated Trayvon Martin has on his record.

 

She was horrible and completely unbelievable.

You can't be both but then if this is your standard then surely you are withdrawing all claims about Zimmerman's statements and lying.

The fact is she has lied throughout her statements about multiple issues, has embellished her story and change it.

He first statement to investigators, under oath, was that she could not tell who was screaming. Under oath on the stand she said she is sure it was Martin.

Which is the lie?

But since you put absolute faith in her then you now admit that Martin ran back to the apartment in which he was staying after having lost Zimmerman? And that it was Martin who confronted Zimmerman and had to return to the T junction in order to do so?