Zimmerman's Wife on 911 Tape: 'I Am Really, Really Scared'

and a woman would never start a fight...like she's not guilty of a damned thing........it's always the man's fault, always.............
again, trying to lay it all on George with supposition and what if's...................we don't have a clear picture..... allowing trayhuggers room to speculate and damn
So, you've been there through all of this and you KNOW for a fact, that Shellie didn't start this one, eh? clever. Best get yer rear down there and make sure justice gets done, this time.

 

doh!!!! it was his job. That's what he got paid for. Security doesn't work without involvement, you so know that right? More "what if's" the favorite mantra of the libs as if that's all the proof they need....................
here's the deal with the what if game, you can convince yourself the what if you focus on IS THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!
so much emotion over something that is of no ones else's concern..............y'all are keeping this story alive with what if's............. real intelligence at work here.
Git yer copy of the National Inquirer and read about how the aliens did it and framed George and Shellie...EXTRA EXTRA.............GET YOUR WORTHLESS NEWS HERE...............

 

George Zimmerman was NOT paid security.

 

I can no longer deal with all this insanity. HE WAS AQUITTED!!!!!!!!!!! All of ya'll's weeping and wringing of hands, shade tree lawyering specialists who know everything about these people as if you lived with them and KNOW everything about Zimmerman, who have made it their personal mission in life, who KNOW the law better than anyone else, are absolutely certified, accredited, nuts.
Busy bodies with nothing better to do, like this is a life changing event for them, personally.
pfffffffffft...............jailhouse lawyers...............
Since you are a so-called expert, I suppose you have a copy of the Trial Rules and Civil Procedures for your state in your house, right? You handle your own tickets and sophomoric criminal charges? You a copy of Florida's codes and statutes in your hands as you type this fildercarb, right?

Florida found him innocent, suck it up and get over it, It didn't affect you in anyway shape or form. It didn't reshape your life, it didn't change the way you shop, garden, or what church you go to. It doesn't change the way you drive, cycle, or walk or eat.


you do know how insane all of this is, right?

 

What is your problem?

I told you that George was not paid security.. the rest of your rant was YOUR invention.

 

As a certified member of Trayvon Truth, I can state for a fact that Zimmerman is a Terminator sent from the future, where President Trayvon Martin was saving the human race from androids. Unlike that other guy with a German name (which was only a movie!), this time the Terminator was successful.

What if I'm right? Did you racists!!! ever think of that? The Terminator is still at large!

Aliens? Who said anything about aliens? Time travel is at the cutting edge in our community; space travel is so Old School!

 

Zimmerman did not take the stand but they did play his audio tape to the dispatcher. At no time did Zimmerman make any attempt to speak to, shoot at, confront or to detain Martin prior to Martin running. Martin was in close proximity to Zimmerman for some period of time yet Zimmerman stayed in his truck. Why is that? What motive or rational is there to stay in the truck and speak to the police as to Martins location in lieu of going face to face in the street? The only plausible answer is that Zimmerman did not desire to confront face to face someone he perceived as a threat and wanted PD to arrive hastily.
So, why WOULD Zimmerman get out of his truck to follow Martin? Zimmerman had already passed on a one on one confrontation. But consider what he said to dispatch. "These $%%$## always get away"(as Zimmerman ran). Zimmerman's desire for Martin to not get away doesn't translate to an attempt to overcome, detain, kill, hunt down or brawl. But it is consistent that Zimmerman desires for the guy in the dark in the rain, in Frank Taaffes yard, between buildings and acting weird to not get away. And to make sure that the guy doesn't get away Zimmerman would have to see where the guy went which would necessitate either SuperMan Vision or to maintain eyesight of the where the guy was running. Are there any other possible choices for Zimmerman following? Either he intends to confront or he just wanted to see where Martin went so he could convey that to PD when they arrived. I don't see another choice other than some fantastic plan to fake the whole event to murder Martin.

True, and this is consistant with Zimmerman staying in his truck to a point in which Martin demonstarted that he didnt intend to confront Zimmerman but instead ran FROM Zimmerman.

You've altered the actual scenario to a point that it is unworkable. Let me offer a counter;

"Second, you question can go both ways. If youre world Champion MMA fighter son was being followed by a 9 year old blind girl how would you handle it? Run to your home? Stand and fight? Call the police? What?"

Martin wasnt a little kid, wasnt a girl a little wasn't a female. Lastly, you want to condemn Zimmerman's actions even though they are consistent with the law while you condone Martins response which were contrary to the law.

Respectfully.

 

Well, you're not Margot, the one I asked the question to, but that's ok - she never gives straight-up, honest answers anyway.......

I only watched bits and pieces of the trial. It doesn't make sense for Z to follow M on foot if he 'was afraid when M approached him while he was IN the truck'.......

My question to Margot - or anyone else, for that matter, who are Trayvon huggers is very easy. I'll ask it one more time, then I'm done here. I have more interests than just M & Z........

Regardless of the circumstances, why or how it happened or who's fault it was.... if your loved one suddenly found him/herself pinned to the ground, the attacker beating their head into the cement and they were able to get out their gun and shoot/kill the attacker - would you blame your loved one for the attacker's death?

I don't think that's to rough of a question.....and people who don't live their lives by the double standard would be willing to answer it.

I had said this b/f and will again. When someone finds themselves in a situation like this case, instead of playing a very stupid and dangerous silent game of cat and mouse in the middle of the night - SPEAK UP! Identify yourself, ask questions. The neighborhood watchman should have done this, but since he didn't, a 6'2" 17 yr old teen should have put on his big boy pants and identified himself - hang up the phone w/yakking w/the girl and call 911.

Both were incredibly stupid by playing their macho man midnite game and as a result one of them died. Maybe this will be a wake-up call to the other Trayvons and Georges.......

 

The problem is Hummingbird, it really depends on the how's and why's to your question. Otherwise, you are being dishonest with the question you are asking.

 

NW protocols are very straightforward... and if you recall George was following TM not vice versa.

 

Thank you for your post,
You say that the neighborhood watch protocols are very straight forward? Yet you don't cite what rule Zimmerman was breaking. Ive read the entire correspondence from the Sanford PD to the neighborhood watch director and to Zimmerman. Ive read all of the information packets, fliers and educational materials.
There is no preclusion of carrying a gun. There is no preclusion from following someone. But I could have missed something. Even if there were such 'rules', Zimmerman doesn't have to follow them as a citizen of Florida. There are no limitations as to who or why you suspect someone. But here ARE but some of the things that the program guide says;



Suspicious behavior might be; "Behaving strangely"(The watchman defines what is 'strange' activity).

Suspicious behavior might be; "Concealing anything unusual"(Zimmerman said Martin had something in his pocket).

Suspicious behavior might be; "Wearing clothes that could spell trouble such as bandanas, caps etc"

Suspicious behavior might be; "Running"

Suspicious behavior might be; "someone casing a neighborhood"(which is nothing more than walking and looking at homes which is what Zimmerman said Martin was doing).

"Its better to be overly suspicious than to let the criminal get away".

"Trust your instincts"( Zimmerman defines what this is)

"If the activity 'appears'".......

"Call PD immediately"(Zimmerman did that)

"Sometimes your suspicions are unfounded.....your job is to give PD the information that you based your suspicious on"(that's exactly what he did).



Even considering the above information, the Sanford Police and its SUGGESTIONS and the HOA watch program itself have no authority over Zimmerman and cannot supplant his citizens rights to perceive and act upon his suspicions. Zimmerman is the absolute authority as to what he defines as suspicious to his eyes, his experience and his rational. He answers to no law, no rule and no other person in regards to perceiving someone, to suspecting someone and to observing someone in a public space in the context of protecting himself and his neighbors. He broke no law. He followed the HOA rules. He stopped following Martin when asked to by the civilian dispatcher when asked to.
Lastly, Martin followed Zimmerman for much of the route that they took. Martin had better and shorter routes to take home that were away from Zimmerman. He chose to come in proximity of the man he supposedly feared.

Respectfully,

 

George was not trained by SPD.. He was trained by the Seminole Sheriff's office... The HOA screwed up because they didn't call their attorney and endorsed George. creating a liability for all the homeowners.

 

But on the Trayvon Truth website, it's proved beyond the shadow of a doubt that Zimmerman does have SuperMan Vision. Also, he's an expert at quick plastic surgery and was able to make a 12-year-old sweet angelic boy look like a 17-year-old thug.

 

Thank you for your reply,
You accused Zimmerman of violating NW protocols which you recognized as the authoritative entity in which Zimmerman was subject to. You now have dismissed the NW protocols as irrelevant and subsequently replaced that with Zimmerman's training by the Seminole PD.
Thus, you made a claim about Zimmerman's not following NW protocols. I subsequently offered a rebuttal. And now you've changed the subject. You may or may not be correct about the Seminole County deal but that is irrelevant for now. Lets get back to your citation of NW protocols. Or do you concede that he didn't break the NW protocols?

As to Zimmerman being trained by the Seminole PD. Where is it in that training that it circumvents Zimmermans rights as a citizen to carry a gun and his right to observe persons that he deems as suspicious? You are the one that referenced the Seminole PD. Please cite where Zimmerman broke a law or acted unreasonably relative to his training. Its your accusation.

The HOA 'screwing up' has nothing to do with Zimmerman acting lawfully and reasonably when he saw Martin. Discrediting the HOA doesn't discredit Zimmerman.
As an aside, you say the "HOA screwed up"? You mean the handful of caring volunteers that worked for free on behalf of their neighbors and children while those neighbors sat on their couches watching TV? Those people? LOL, you have a handful of caring neighbors that get out and put up Christmas decorations for others to enjoy. They fix swing sets and plant flowers. And their seen as 'busy bodies' by the lazy cowards that don't do anything. Its called CIVIC DUTY! What a lost and foreign concept that is today(not directed at you).

Respectfully,

 

George was the ONLY NW person at the Retreat..

 

Thank you for your reply,
We have established a pattern here. You make a claim. I offer a rebuttal. and you change the subject and never reconcile or bring to a conclusion your claims!

Moving on, your citation of Zimmerman being the only NW person isnt correct. Frank Taaffe is a watchman also. Ironically, Martin emerged from the unpaved side of Taaffes house and stood in Frank Taaffes front yard, in the dark and in the rain when Zimmerman first saw him. Danged the luck. Martin emerges from behind some dudes house that is a watchman and stands in the guys yard and is seen by the OTHER watchman!
Lastly, your stating that Zimmerman was the only NW is irrelevant to anything that I have said. There are others in the neighborhood that actively participate in HOA meetings but only two actually watch.

So,we have went from NW protocols and dumped that, and then to Seminole PD Training and dumped that, and now we've dismissed the claim that Zimmerman was the only NW.

Whats next? Not trying to be a jerk here but eventually there may come a time when only reality and facts are what you are left with to form your opinions in lieu of what Bill Mahar, Oprah Winfrey and MSNBC tell us to believe.

Respectfully,

 

Frank Taaffe dropped out in November..........

 

Thank you for your post,
I propose that the more familiar that you are with the specifics of locations and movements of these two persons the less damning Zimmerman's actions were. You characturize these movements as 'cat and mouse'. This is vague. Please submit the actual actions and locations and proximities of these two men and where was it that Zimmerman was playing cat and mouse? Let me assure you, you're not going to be able to. No one, no where has ever demonstrated, proved or offered a workable rational as to why Zimmerman's specific actions in regards to his proximity to Martin were careless or unreasonable. You can convict Zimmerman and call him a fool, but not with evidence, maps, phone calls or testimony. Only in the world of make believe and subjective vagary can one claim that Zimmerman was foolish or careless.
When was it that Zimmerman should have "spoke up" or "identify himself"? Even assuming that he had an opportunity to identify himself it may have been best not to. Remember, the NW and police protocols do not suggest that you identify yourself but to observe and to call, the PD. But either way, he doesn't have to.

Respectfully,

 

Thank you for your reply,
I learn something new every day. Thank you. I suppose that we can refer to Frank Taaffe an HOA member that was formerly a NW. Now, again why is this relevant?
Are we done with the NW protocols and Zimmerman's training? I conceded that I was in error about Taaffes being a current NW. An untruth that I will never utter again.

Respectfully,

 

The untruth was started by Taaffe, not you.

 

"..everyone here is a liar, and if ya don't surrender now, it'll come down to the wire..." Tweeter and the Monkeyman by B Dylan

 

Are you a member of NW?

 

Oh BALONEY! If you'd THINK about it, they ended up following EACH OTHER, turning it into a stupid cat and mouse game in the middle of a rainy night! How else did Martin manage to get Z pinned to the ground?

If your teenage son did what Martin did and survived it, would you pat him on the head and tell him you 'were very proud of him for being such a big, brave dude' or would you sit him down and explain the dangers involved in that kind of activity and to use common sense by leaving that area as fast and safe as he could?

Well hell..... I asked you another question you have no intentions of answering.....

Look, you're just to hung up and so obsessed w/this case that you don't have any rationale at all. Altho Z started the following, Martin clearly played his part in turning the whole scenario even more dangerous since he was able to take Z by surprise, hit him and get him pinned down on the ground. If you can't understand that, then there's definitely no hope for you.........

As I had said BOTH were stupid and they BOTH took an unnecessary risk by lurking around in the night, trying to outsmart each other in the dark and the dumb kid paid the ultimate price ......

I hope this case is a lesson to the teens out there who think they're immortal, nothing bad will happen to them while they're making a very dangerous decision to do something extremely stupid like Martin did..... and the same thing goes for these George Zimmermans.....

 

You are the one who seems to be obsessed.

 

That's real funny coming from someone who even researched Zimmerman's sex life..........