Zimms "Don't pass the smell test" #1...the bloody head.

Then I can understand your confusion about the facts in the case if you don't know the difference between an exaggeration and a lie..

 

Exactly. In your world what you believe is true. A.K.A. Speculation.

 

Funny, in this post and my last I have DOCUMENTED Z's lies with facts, most of them coming from the evidence.

BTW - I'm only getting started. I will post one of Z's lies everyday until I run out of ammunition. I'm thinking a month or two.

 

oh ok .thanks.

 

the trial went on for a while so they were burnt out just like the OJ tiral...they gave a "Not guilty" just to get outta there, because a hung jury would've brought them back for more of the same circus.

 

Great! You've proven that people's memories are not 100% consistent. Even Detective Singleton states on the stand that Zimmerman called 911, which is untrue! Zimmerman even corrected her in the interview. She should be charged with perjury!!!


SERINO: Because we're not robots as people. I mean, not knowing him personally, I don't think I've ever heard of somebody remembering step by step exactly how stuff occurred that they were involved in. Unless, you're looking from the outside looking in.

O'MARA: As a matter of fact, if someone were to come to you and have the exact same story down fact for fact and word for word, sentence for sentence each time you talked to them, what would you think about that person's honesty or veracity?

SERINO: I'd -- either they're being completely honest or completely false to the extreme.

 

But we're not talking about someone not remembering something, were talking about someone giving two separate accounts of what went on.

Two different things.

 

It's the same thing. What do you use to give an account of what went on for a prior occurrence? Is it, perhaps, memory? Nah, humans have the power to warp time and look into the past directly.

 

Heheh, not remembering something is "I don't remember". 2 different stories is changing your story.

Z supporters will believe anything.

 

Exactly. when you are dead set on your own opinion and not the facts, you will get the type responses you're getting. they have NO INTEREST in agreeing one single valid point you make. It's about "staying the course" no matter if the bridge is out up ahead. I call it Selective Memory Syndrome. and Zimmerman supporters got it bad.

 

Me happy with the verdict. "Time to let it go" right?
The hilarious part is had George been convicted of picking his nose in public AD would have taken the case to the FSC if he had to and won.
That my friends is why Holder is 'saying the words' the Blacks want to hear but he and his merry band of idiots know they could never make a case against George. Long long after Holder leaves the next AG will be 'saying words' to placate the Blacks and wait and see.........about a month before the next Presidential election the AG will make some HUGE announcement something like: "We now feel we have enough evidence to move to the next step towards charging Zimmerman with something but we won't be able to go into detail until after the election. Of course all you Blacks know that if you don't turn out and vote LIB there likely won't be any more progress in maybe charging Zimmerman". Sound about right?

 

Um, sorry dude. Not guilty = innocent.

"Innocent till proven guilty"

Not guilty verdict = innocent

At least to those with no conspiracy theory agendas.

 

Um, sorry dude. I appreciate your repeating the common perception, but as anyone trained in the law can tell you, it is wrong.

A "not guilty" verdict is not saying the guy is innocent of the crime charged. It is saying that there was not enough evidence to believe he was guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

A jury can believe a guy probably did it, but would still return a "not guilty" verdict.

That is like saying OJ was innocent of killing his wife because the jury said not guilty.

 

In all of Zimm's statements he repeatedly calls TM the "suspect". Suspected of what? Walking funny? In his NEN call this is the description he gave of TM...

1. A real suspicious guy
2. He's up to no good
3. He's on drugs pr something
4. he's just walking around looking about
5. I think he's black.
6. Looking at all the houses

In Zimm's video walk through we get a clear idea of what was happening, what Z did and how long it took. Z mentions when he first sees TM, at the first semi right turn from his condo going north on RVC, about 100 feet from that turn. He watches TM as he drives by. The speed limit on that street is 25mph, but since it was raining let's give Z the benefit of the doubt and say he was going 20mph. Z never claims that he slowed down or stopped. After viewing TM he proceeds directly to Clubhouse where he calls NEN, which is another 600-700 feet from that turn. 20MPH is about 30 feet a second.

At these speeds and distances Zimm would have been viewing TM for about 3-5 seconds. In 3-5 seconds of seeing TM Z was able to determine that he was up to no good, on drugs, just walking about and looking at houses.

Pass the smell test or did Z profile TM this way simply because he was a young black kid in a hoodie?

Z then takes about another 15-20 seconds to get to the Clubhouse where he makes the NEN call and makes all these accusations/observations about his "suspect".

At 48 seconds into the call Z reports that TM is staring at him and a bit after says he is at the clubhouse.

In approximately a minute TM has walked a distance of 600 feet or 36000 feet an hour...or wait for...5 MPH.

A normal walking gate for a person is 2-4 MPH...2 being slowly and 4 being fast.

So, does a person walking 4-5 miles per hour indicative of a "suspect" walking around, looking about and looking into houses?

In fact, it appears TM was walking fast, as you might expect someone trying to get out of the rain.

Z ONLY SAW TM for maybe 3-5 seconds, profiled him as a burglar in that time, made not only inconsistent but demonstrably false statements about his activity when in fact the evidence and facts point to TM simply wanting to get out of the rain and home as quickly as possible.

He then used that as an excuse to get police out there as quickly as possible so they could apprehend, roust and question TM.

And why? Because TM was a young black kid who "didn't belong" in his neighborhood.

 

Just to give some perspective of these walking speeds, the fastest runners in the world attempt the "4 minute mile". That's a speed of 15 MPH.

 

Zimmys' defense said it is not illegal to profile a victim in racisss-slang .... that it is not illegal then to exit your vehicle armed ... that it is not illegal to pursue somebody armed ... and not illegal to finally confront the victim and put a gun to his head ...

But it was illegal for Martin to defend himself ...

 

Actually TM did belong in the neighborhood.. He was a guest.. and George lied when he said that he knew every adult and child at the Retreat. In fact.. its an idiot statement. I live in a gated community and we have guests and visitors all the time.. George was behaving like a turfy hoodrat.

 

George may have been following someone, however e problems started when Treyvon threw the first punch.

Good for Zimmerman

 

If George had a brain, he wouldn't have killed an unarmed kid and wrecked his own life.

 

Who says TM threw the first punch? Oh ya, the shooter/killer.

 

Why would TM throw the first punch? He was unarmed and on his cellphone.. and he had NO reputation for sudden rage or violence?

 

Read the texts from his phone where a friend begged him to stop fighting. You have been wrong for over a year because you ignore the facts.

 

You mean the "first punch" that Zimm claims happened at the T where he immediately went down on his back and where TM mounted and started hitting him?

You know, 50 feet from where the body was found?

 

Weird, all the Zimm supporters that usually flood these thread avoid my "smell test" threads like the plague.

Because it's difficult to refute hard evidence. Better to stick to the ad hominem and insult threads. You don't have to do much thinking there.

 

No one cares because you have been factually wrong the entire case . Instead of dealing with it , you throw a tantrum. So he said suspect , OMG ??? I suspect that my son needs to clean his room , but I am not sure . Does this make me a racist profiler ???