Russia’s newest Su-30 multirole jets and Su-24 bombers practiced attack runs on NATO

Links to viable Websites please.

The United States State Department and CIA and NSA was EXTREMELY WORRIED that the manner the E.U. was being constructed was TOO UNINCLUSIVE!!!

Large Powerful E.U. Nations such as Germany and France had their eyes upon being the E.U. Leadership Nations.

We....the U.S. and our Agencies even sent communications stating even the NAME.....EUPOPEAN UNION.....in and of itself showed and decried of a Europe that even with a Unified Currency which THE U.K.....smartly did not take the bait and abandon the POUND...........a Europe that would have smaller and less powerful Nations that other E.U. more powerful Nations would not want to spend the money to fix their economies and infrastructure.

We wanted A UNITED STATES OF EUROPE......not a EUROPEAN UNION!!!

In the United States each state has a number of Congressmen that who's number represents their POPULATION....YET.....EACH STATE NO MATTER HOW MANY PEOPLE IN IT OR HOW WEALTHY HAS 2 MEMBERS OF THE SENATE!!!

Each State is allowed to make their own laws as long as those laws do not conflict with the U.S. CONSTITUTION as the United States is not just a DEMOCRACY.....we are a DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC!!!

There is a BIG DIFFERENCE!!!

In a Democracy MAJORITY RULES.

In a DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC......THE RIGHTS OF THE MINORITY IS PROTECTED BY THE U.S. CONSTITUTION!!!

Thus as very shortly Gay Marriage will be ruled on by the U.S. Supreme Court and the U.S. Supreme Court has already prior to the vote tipping it's hand made a few statements that are ment to get those Highly Religious Bible Belt States to understand once the U.S. Supreme Court rules that Gay Marriage will be a U.S. CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT.....that the U.S. Supreme Court and FBI WILL NOT TOLLERATE ANY STATE, GROUP OR RELIGIOUS INSTITUTION DESCRIMINATING AGAINST GAY MARRIAGE OUTSIDE THEIR OWN PERSONAL RIGHTS.

In this way the RIGHTS OF THE MINORITY ARE PROTECTED AGAINST THE WISHES OF THE MAJORITY.

Now I have been all over Europe and I always am treated kindly and with respect especially in the U.K., Spain, Italy, Germany and 99% of France.

I even forced down a piece of Marinated Greenland Shark for the more than Happy I was there Icelanders and Scandanavian's.

But although some European Nations profess they are PROGRESSSIVE......France goes and passes laws....ACTUAL FREAKIN' LAWS......that make it illegal for a woman to weir a veil.....make it illegal for the French Government to have Softwear that uses the American Techno Language words E-mail.....thus France goes and pay's Microsoft untol Millions of U.S. Dollars to change their version of Windows to not have the word E-mail in them!!!


I AM NOT MAKING THIS UP!!!!

Germany which is a Nation that has an IDENTY CRISIS...still has a lot of smart people and they do a great job developing Green Energy Tech......but Germany did the E.U. and itself a HUGE DISERVICE after ANGIE realized that she would not become the first E.U. PRESIDENT or whatever they wanted to call the position.

Europe's inability to dea with a number of small Nations Economies such as Greece's.....shows wat this is all about!!!

In the U.S. it does not matter what your State has for Tax Income or number of People.....we take care of all of them!!!

People in the States don't call themselves New Mexican's or Iowan's or Pennsalvanian.....they call themselves AMERICAN'S....or U.S CITIZENS!!!

In Europe....you are French or Spanish or German or Italian...etc.

The E.U. is much too seperated to become a UNITED STATES OF EUROPE....at least not for 100 years or more.

And the ONE THING that drives me crazy is EUROPES TOTAL INANBILITY TO HANDLE EVEN THE SMALLEST ISSUE IN THEIR OWN BACK YARD WITHOUT FIRST CONSULTING WITH THE UNITED STATES!!!!!

The wars in the FORMER YUGOSLAVIA......I PERSONALLY HOLD A NUMBER OF EUROPEAN POLITICIAN'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEATHS OF AT LEAST 20 THOUSAND PEOPLE THAT WERE KILLED EVERY TIME A TRUCE WAS NEGOCIATED BY SOME LADDER CLIMBING E.U. POLITICIAN.....as the Serbs would use this time to Regroup and then attack!!


The U.S. had to go in as without the United States Military that war WOULD STILL BE RAGING!!!

Plus Europe does have a much slower pace of life.....TOO SLOW!!!

AboveAlpha

 

Well, I posted several links and sources in my original post.

There are any number of articles and websites out there that have, over the years since his death, and I suspect because of his Bilderberg chairmanship and his corruption over Lockheed, that have written about him. But even the site you link to has an article that says this about him:

Further on in the same link it says this:

And from another link (HERE) it says also that he was a member of the SS.

Even Wiki cites him as being member of the Nazi Party and the SS (HERE):

For what it's worth, probably not a lot, I remember that the Daily Telegraph wrote an obituary for him which went to considerable lengths to diminish his Nazi background and downplay various controversial aspects of his life. The article said, at one point that it wasn't true that he insisted that the Nazi anthem (I think from memory they named it as Deutchland Lied?) being sung at his wedding in 1937. Which was true, as I recall. Because he had the other Nazi anthem (I believe it was the Horst Wessel song) sung instead.

You'll also see from the Wiki article that the Prince, once he had arrived in London, used his royal connections to ask to join British intelligence (the then King George put pressure on the authorities for this to happen), but Roosevelt and the Admiralty vetoed it because they didn't trust him.

 

Did you check any of those I posted? Or is your inclusion of the word "viable" there for a specific reason?

Now it's your turn. For good orders sake, links please to verify the foregoing statement.

In any case, I don't think this was how it came about at all. Again, I recommend David Teacher's book on Le Circle that I linked earlier. Ditto Holly Sklar's book Trilateralism: The Trilateral Commission and Elite Planning for World Management.

 

Pretty good analysis. Particularly the use of excessive manpower. The German Army was responsible for the rounding up of, securing, transport and death of the European Jewry population. It was military that ran those death camps. Hitler considered his "Final Solution For The Jews" - to be just as important to German success, as military victories. The number of German military that took part in those death camp operations is staggering, and if given to the army on the front, may have turned the tide of war in Hitler's favor. Those soldiers who took part in running those camps got off easier than any army in the world after the war, as did most of the Nazi leadership. We only managed to hang a few, while the rest repatriated Argentina and other South American countries, with assistance of the neutral Swiss.

Of course, there was antisemitism in Germany and all of the Central Slavic European countries for thousands of years, so no surprise Germany attempted to destroy them. However, had Hitler left the Jews alone, and treated them as citizen's instead of cattle, he wouldn't have lost the nuclear scientists to America which developed the atomic bomb, and thousand's of others of immense intelligence value to the government, which could have been used to win the war. As German citizens, they would probably have been loyal if they hadn't been terrorized by the state.

After the war, the General Staff captured, of course, all blamed the war on Hitler's mistakes. He was a meddler, and did micromanage the political and military affairs of the nation. However, the German General Staff wasn't totally in Hitler's favor, until after the assassination attempt on his life, late in the war. They prepared the operational plans and carried them out, but considered Hitler to be a pest. However, that same staff, most of which were hanged after the war, didn't approve of the Ribbentrop Pact; didn't want to go to war against Poland in 1939, knowing that all France had to do was send their million man army crashing into the German west flank, and the Nazi's and Hitler would have collapsed.

Hitler understood the French better than his General's. He knew their military posture. After losing an entire generation in World War One, France was solely defensive, not offensive, and Germany got 6-months of "phony war" where the French sat behind the Maginot Line and watched him carve up Poland, when they easily, without any help from England, could have attacked and destroyed Hitler. It was a daring gamble, and one that Hitler took and succeeded with, attacking Poland and leaving the Western front abandoned, against the advice of the General Staff.

As Germany, and its military minds watched Hitler set aside portions of the Versailles Treaty, one after the other, they knew that at some point in this process, both England and France would march against him. However, he gained Austria, the Rhineland and Czechoslovakia without firing a shot in anger, and tested his air force in the Spanish civil war. The Stuka may have been slow, but it was an excellent weapon for close ground support of tanks and infantry, and was used well. The fighter's that went after England after France fell, were equal to the RAF's Spitfires, but had a very short time frame over English territory to carry out their mission. That battle was a tie, and Hitler never could figure why the British wouldn't sue for peace and save their empire.

Hitler approved at the last moment, the Ardennes Plan for the quick strike "blitzkrig" armored attack through the rugged territory of Belgium, which split the BEF and the French, and conquered France as England raced with an armada of fishing boats to save their soldiers trapped on Dunkirk's beaches.

Had the German General Staff quickly had a plan for a cross-channel invasion to England ready at the time, it is probable that Hitler would have approved of it, and made Sea Lion a major attack. Odds were even that England would have fallen with the U-Boats wreaking havoc on the Royal Navy in the narrow English Channel, and the Luftwaffe matching the RAF over coastal France and the channel as the invasion fleet attacked. After all, the British were able to save over 300,000 men at Dunkirk at a moment's notice, using every type of flotilla of odd job boats - certainly Germany at the very height of its power in the Western campaign, could have rounded up sufficient naval power and pushed across the channel also. T

he German General Staff, with Hitler dead, blamed all the war's problems on him, and his meddling, however, that staff was extremely shortsighted. The attack on the USSR, thought to be Hitler's biggest mistake - one would have thought that attempting to conquer the largest country in the world with infantry, somebody on the staff might have thought of Soviet resistance, and prepared for a winter war also, instead of a quick strike summer war. That is a simple, General Staff logistical problem that the General's didn't even think about, and it cost Germany a victory at Moscow.

Hitler was a mystic, believed in astrology (so did Ronald Reagan for that matter). On occasion, more often than not, on some of the big issues, Hitler proved correct, and the Nazi's went on to some stunning victories because of him, not in spite of him. His faults and mistakes were as large as his successes - he should have won the war, it was that close............

 

It wasn't the German army (Wehmacht) who rounded up the Jews or ran the camps but the Waffen SS that was the armed wing of the political party of the Nationalist Socialist Party (NAZI)

Kinda like when the KKK use to be the armed wing of the Democrat party.

What might have changed the outcome of the war, likely a conditional surrender was that Germany didn't go on a full war footing (total war) untill 1943 and by then it was too late, Germany was losing the war.

Where as the Soviet Union, the UK and the USA went on a full war footing on the day they went to war. Total war being that the civilian population has to be 100% involved, they have to also sacrifice for the cause. Where as the German people continued wanting their beer, brats, chocolate, cigarettes, new shoes and tires for the car.

In the United States it was like this.

 

Although Snake and I often disagree...on this one we don't disagree.

As far as the issue of the NAME.....European Union.....understand since WWII the United States basically ran Western Europe both Politically and Militarily.

During the Cold War....and I was a VERY COLD WARRIOR.....although there were massive protests all over Europe as the Pershing II Intermediate Thermonuclear Tactical Missiles were being deployed in West Germany....which along with Stealth, SDI, Nuclear Tipped Cruise Missiles, Nimitz Class Carriers and ESPECIALLY the 18 OHIO CLASS SUBMARINE with it's 24 Trident II D-5 Missiles each missile capable of carrying MIRVed Warheads (in USA usage only): The Mark 5 MIRV can carry up to 14 W88 (475 kt) warheads and with 16 Trident II D-5 Missiles on 4 U.K. Vanguard Class Subs.......this overwhealmed the Soviet Union and it collapsed.

The Soviet's were especially worried about 3 specific things Militarily.

#1. The Pershing II Intermediate Range Tactical Thermonuclear Missiles which traveling at well above Hypersonic Speeds...Mach 24.....could traverse the short distance between West Germany and Moscow and other Soviet Leadership Areas.....and they were solid fuel and so fast they could decapitate the entire Soviet Missile Command before the Soviet's had time to respond.

#2. OHIO CLASS SUBS with the Trident II D-5 Missiles which one missile could carry......The Mark 5 MIRV can carry up to 14 W88 (475 kt) warheads....so with 24 Missiles per Sub and 18 Ohio Class Subs plus 4 British Vanguard Subs using the Trident II D-5 as well....these SLBM's were so accurate ACTUAL DIRECT HIT'S WERE RECORDED IN EXTENSIVE TESTING!!

I am not talking about Soviet concepts of a direct hit which is considered within a 1/2 to 2/3rds of a Kilometer.....I am talking hitting within a 10 Meter in diametr circle...5 meter radius.....of a fake silo.

#3. SDI.....the Soviet's feared American High Technology like a Gypsy's Curse...and they were right to.

After the Soviet Union fell.....the U.S. had to go in and stop the Chaos.....and Estern Europe reunited with western Europe.

But nations like France, Germany, U.K......they are NEVER....going to fully integrate into a type of United States of Europe.

I say this because I was there when all this was going on....I was all over including Georgia, Ukraine, East Germany, France, Spain....etc...etc...etc.....and I was at the Prestina Airport trying to help a bunch of Russian Sldiers....KIDS....from starving.

AboveAlpha

 

Yes, well none of that responds to the two questions I posed, which I repeat again:

The second question I posed in response to your bald statement as follows:

Links, facts and evidence will always beat deflection, bluster, BS and the usual garrulous nonsense that you use to respond to direct questions.

 

There is no bluster...look at what is going on.

The E.U. as a Union is a failure.

As far as Links.......http://debatewise.org/debates/3331-should-the-european-union-bail-out-its-member-countries/.

Should The European Union Bail Out Its Member Countries?
PageDiscussionHistorySince the end of 2009 when fears about Greece’s economy mounted and its debt was downgraded, the European Union (E.U.) has faced a big challenge: deciding whether or not it should bail out member countries. Three countries Ireland, Portugal, and Greece, have so far received or are in the process of receiving bailouts. Greece is looking to get a second as it increasingly becomes obvious it wont be able to quickly go back to the capital markets. Some E.U. ministers feel that it is necessary to bail member countries out of crippling debt to "save" the E.U.'s economy, while other E.U. ministers feel that each member country should be responsible for its own debt and not pull other member countries into more economic trouble. Bailouts don’t seem to be working. Once one country gets a bailout, the markets begin looking for the next likely candidate creating a line of dominoes. Yet the alternatives are not good options either; letting countries either drop out of the Euro or default on their debt, or else much closer integration.

Check this out...LINK....https://www.inderscience.com/www/EJIM_leaflet.pdf

AboveAlpha

 

Yes there is bluster, and yes there is BS, and yes there is continual deflection. This latest post of yours is yet another example of that.

The questions I posed to you in post No. 656 and earlier ones, remain unanswered. SOP.

In place of answers, facts or evidence for your bald assertions, are long-winded reminiscing posts or posts that change the topic or shift the emphasis (as in the above).

I understand your forum discussion techniques very well. Bluster and BS is what you're all about. State utter nonsense with sufficient conviction and people are inclined to believe it. I don't. I want supporting facts. Yet you avoid evidence and support like the plague, and for the obvious reason that none exists for much of the time.

 

He can't give you any evidence because he apparently has a Secret Squirrel, black ops, zero accountability 'JOB' (his emphasis) which precludes him, conveniently, from providing substantiation. I believe he's on 'stand down' at the moment, hence the daily contributions here...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-S_F9U9gNEQ

 

The LINKS I provided you specifically the one's of the U.S. Congressional Report answer your questions very well.

Fact is the E.U. is FAILING.

The larger and wealthier E.U. nations have absolutely no interest in helping the smaller less wealthy E.U. Members.

Without the U.S. leading NATO....any issues requiring Military Action are endlessly debated to the point of inaction.

How many people died needlessly in the former Yugoslavia because members of the E.U. could not come to a decision without the U.S. having to step in and direct them?

How many times did some E.U. Ladder Climbing Politician have a cease fire declared which only allowed Slobbyboy Milkosobi#@H to regroup for another round of ETHNIC CLEANSING?

Thus a cease fire was declared....more people were murdered....some Eurotrash Plitician got his name in the Papers and Face on TV.....until U.S. Satellite Data showed that Serbian Forces had not stopped Killing during this CEASE FIRE PERIOD!!

Europe needs to grow up.

AboveAlpha

 

Those secret squirrels. They're deadly, right. They train with Spetsnaz's, meet Putin face to face, fly to the outer rings of Saturn on Treaty saucers -- and all from the comfort of their armchair and keyboard. It's a tough life.

 

That's OK......take the time to run a search on my posts...specific to predicted actions.....you will find I have a 100% accuracy determination bar one incident as it was unforseeable....yet it will happen eventually.

AboveAlpha

 

fancy jets, you think they'de find somethin better then a 1986 sony camcorder to make the scary video of it with

 

I've seen enough of your posts to know you're not worth that sort of effort. In your mind you're the younger brother of God. Others see you quite differently.

Sorry to interrupt your dreamtime.

 

You mean predictions which pretty much everyone else has also made? Impressive.

 

I will give you this.....you definitly have a KNACK with the ability to post fairly good insults and I appreciate anything that is done well! LOL!!

Don't really believe in a GOD....at least not in the way most people do.

And don't worry about interupting if I happen to be asleep and dreaming....as I am a Lucid Dreamer....plus I can restart my dreams.....fast forward or rewind them as well.

AboveAlpha

 

Come on Snake....I expect more from you!

You were I believe one of my very first detractors which is fine by me....but you were also one of the first that I showed where to find data....Earth Shattering Data....and unless you just didn't bother which would be your loss.....then YOU KNOW....what I am capable of.

AboveAlpha

 

Hmm. You showed me where to find stuff on the net-which is available to everyone!

 

New York Cities Central Park is available to anyone who would like to use it....but that doesn't mean everyone knows where to find where by a certain rock a group of 4 Leaf Clovers have been growing there for years!!

AboveAlpha

 

Near death experiencer Christian Andreason was astonished when he was basically shown that G-d/ YHWH at this moment has seven billion little brothers and sisters here on this third rock?!

http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...an-andreason-he-onto-something-important.html

The Man on the Throne by Christian Andreason.... is he onto something important?


http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/

(Christian Andreason, chapter 2)


John 10:34


"Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? "

Sly Lampost..... there may be an older version of you that has already gained the right to go in and out of fifth, sixth, seventh and eighth dimensional space time freely? (Maybe even ninth or tenth)?! That is one of the possible implications of non-linear time.

 

This quotation fitted in so nicely over in this other topic that I couldn't resist quoting you again...…


http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=411162&page=8&p=1065066227#post1065066227

Should America be the world's policeman?

 

Thanks for showing how much Russia wants to start a war.

 

It'll make a change from America's serial warmongering.

 

LOL, let me know the next time the US took over part of a neighboring country.