Russia’s newest Su-30 multirole jets and Su-24 bombers practiced attack runs on NATO

The F/A-18E was used to replace Australia's F-111s.
According to Wiki:
The F-111C had a combat radius of 2,140 km.
The FA-18E has a combat radius of 722 km.

The FA-18C can make up for some of that with external drop tanks & aerial refueling but with the F-35A it is kind of defeating the purpose of buying a stealth aircraft.

Freddy.

 

Good record???

Then explain why they got shot out of the sky in every major engagement since Korea?
We all know you have an irrational hate for the west but really the records speak for themselve on this.

 

When have US aircraft shot any modern Russian warplanes "out of the sky"?

 

Should have read:
The FA-18E can make up for some of that with external drop tanks & aerial refueling but with the F-35A it is kind of defeating the purpose of buying a stealth aircraft.

Pitty I cannot edit my original post.

Freddy.

 

When have "modern" russian warplane flowned real combat mission?
If they never participated in real combat then your opinion of their superiority is total poopoo...
They look good on paper and that is it, while both the west pilots and planes have experience real combat and performed admirably.

 

Well, if they haven't flown "real combat missions" they couldn't have been shot out of the sky. Your logic is devastating. Have the F22 of F35 flown any "real combat missions" or do they just look good on paper? By the way, bombing ISIS in Syria doesn't really count as 'combat' if you don't have an opponent who can fight back.

 

Actualy it does count. Just like the german pilots who flew in the condor legion during the spannish civil war gained experience that help them at the start of the war. No exercise or mock battles can replicate the stress level of a real combat mission.

As for the F-22: http://abcnews.go.com/International/years-trouble-22-raptors-combat-mission-success/story?id=25709236

Thing is, you so much hate the west that you believe 100% whatever the russian or chinese tells you, even if you don't have any data to back it up. Do you honestly believe all the crap that they tell you about their military system? Don't you find it at least a bit bizarre that everything that they are producing is supposedly working 100% from the get go without any problem at all? At least in the west we do know about the limitations and technical snafu of our military industry as it is well documented and published. But to think that the same country that gave us the Lada Signet and the one who can't even build a toy without endangering the health of your child is somehow able to build perfect x-gen warplanes and other weapon system that never ever have any defect. Same with their pilot or crew who don't need to actually fight to be the best... Yeah... Seek help.

 

“Unreal” ! - Well you got that right Pal! Just to bad you don't seem to realize just what “Unreal” actually means ! -
AboveAlpha ! - - Do you believe any and all of the crazy Absurdities you read in the sales pamphlets issued by the your
‘for profit, ‘Masters of War’defense contractors, or do you just Squawk out what you are told by your feeders to Parrot ?
[color=#ffffrff].............[/color] Link - A Soundtrack to the Post - Link

Not only is so called Stealth a total LIE, but there is no way possible you are going to keep any Supersonic Robot,
Zombie, or even Psycho piloted Air Superiority Combat Aircraft in the air for 24 hrs without refueling.
Everytime I think that you have totally destroyed your credibility with your Walter Mitty nonsense, You seem able to do yourself one better

Why do you try & sell this sort of Crap to the American people; while the economy, jobs, infrastructure, social cohesion,
............................................................. and the sacred Liberties guaranteed in the Constitution dissolve before your eyes ?
.............................................................Or are You just another talking head in the pocket & on payroll ot the Parasites, ?! :


New U.S. Stealth Jet Can’t Hide From Russian Radar
http://northerntruthseeker.blogspot.c a/2015/04/the-lougheed-martin-f-35-flying-lemon.html
The Lougheed Martin F-35 Flying Lemon A Boondoggle:
When Will People Understand That STEALTH Does NOT Work, Period!


The F35 Is What’s Known As A Boondoggle
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/04/29/us-stealth-fighter-jet-cant-evade-russian-radars/
The F-35 project was doomed from the start when they included technologies that
did not yet exist, but were working on. So the budget projections were the usual
kind, whatever they felt Congress could get through at the time.

Once the money started flowing out to the districts, including places like Atlanta
where I am, then the folks could deal with the cost overruns better when they knew
they were being cut in for the wasted money.

Even this radar story is kind of hyped, as radar is not even needed to shoot them down
The satellites can see the turbulence the planes make as they fly and track them that
way and feed that to the missiles, or missile groups.

Even an idiot could see a long time ago that missile technology and satellite tracking
would make planes flying coffins.

The F-35: A Next To Useless Flying Boondoggle
http://catalystnewspaper.com/opinion/the-f-35-a-flying-boondoggle/



US: The Northrop Grumman B-2 Boondoggle
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=7831
When Northrop was awarded the B-2 contract in 1981, the company and the Pentagon
promised that its stealth technology would make it invisible to enemy radar. But stealth
has never been shown to work. A Pentagon source who has reviewed classified data calls
stealth "the biggest fraud ever perpetrated on the American public." He says that during
the Gulf War, British destroyers picked up stealth crafts from 40 miles away. U.S. radar
identified them at up to five times that distance.


Hey Alphie ! - Poppa yourself a bag of popcorn, & Pop the top on a can’O Beer,
and watch the movie. It’s an expose' about the Bradley Fighting Vehicle & how it devolved
But it may as well be about the F35 - Funny as Hell ! – Funny but 2 too 2 Tragically True !
It’s the same Filthy Parasite at work here, The same one sucking the blood of the American taxpayer -
& We all we know it as as: “The Military Industrial Complex“

This is how Pentagon Appropriations really work good buddy – And Good Luck 2 yah !

Pentagon Wars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDYpRhoZqBY
[video=youtube;iDYpRhoZqBY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDYpRhoZqBY[/video]

Have you ever heard of this guy Walter Mitty ? – He’s a guy who lives in a Fantasy World,


The same kind of Fantasy World built on fear, lies, propaganda and exceptionalist clap trap used on the Sheeple
as Control Mechanism to reassure them that their Parasites & their Butchers are all there for their benefit

It is all BullDung, totally divorced from Reality & Carries the seeds of its own destruction and is a Pizz Poor
............................................................................................................................................. survival technique

Have done with your Unreal Stealth and your Braggadocio of how you can Kill more people with impunity than
anybody else on planet earth. All that you are doing is proving you're a CRANK who has all of his Human priorities
all screwed up & who will believe or propagate any Absurdity or Lie so long as it Justifies & Validates his own
............................................................................................................................. twisted sense of superiority

Get REAL Alpha - You are on the wrong side of history




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This was the best move on the Global Chessboard. Navel forces are of no use in a war against Russia.

Was a guy on the one of the news (editorial) channels the other day saying that the F35 would be the last mass produced manned combat fighter.

The way of the future is drones. Missile technology ( a kind of drone) has advanced faster than the ability of a plane to defend.

A floating metal city travelling slowly (because there is no other speed) through the ocean is a joke.

The navy started filling their pants when the Russians introduced the Sunburn anti ship missile in the early 1990s. This super sonic cruise missile flies just meters above the water and is only detected once it comes over the horizon at which point the target has 45-50 seconds to react. At the time this missile was at least a decade more advanced than any similar US missile.

If you are old enough to remember... it was in the early 1990's when Windows 3 (graphic interface) came out. 4 megs of ram and a whopping 20 meg hard-drive. Things have advanced since then.

In 1997 Deep Thought beat the world chess champion Kasparov in a chess match.

Sony put export restrictions on the Play Station 3 came out because the chip can power a cruise missile.

In 1999 during the war in Yugoslavia, Serbia took out a F-117A (and damaged another) using its 1960's missile technology (S-125) after figuring out how to detect stealth aircraft. They also downed an F-16.

Good luck against a modern Russian missiles that can think. We only have 35 F-35s and 180 or so F-22's and there are doubts as to whether these can hold out against the S-300s Iran is getting. The rest is F-16/F-15 stuff of which we have roughly 2000 - fly swatter fodder.

The reason there are doubts is that S-300's are not produced anymore so they are getting an upgraded version and we are not sure what advanced capabilities Russians will have included. Against the Russian S-400 system you might as well not even put a manned plane into the air.

Ships LOL floating cities of death on a modern battlefield and we have not even discussed using nukes.

There is not going to be a war with Russia of any significance and if there is this conversation is pointless as life as we know it will end.

The battlefield of the 3rd millennium is "Economic" .. not military. The days of both sides lining up and firing all they have at the enemy are over.

Russia realized that it could not match the US plane for plane, ship for ship (even if it wanted to which it didn't). They took the smart route and focused their resources on targeted areas such as missile technology. How many missiles can I make for the cost of one plane or ship ?

This technology is advancing so fast it is not even funny (on both sides).

The only reason we have continued to pretend that most of our massive military is not obsolete is to put money in the pockets of the defense contractors and to prop up the defense oligopoly - a combined 1 Trillion dollar annual spend or roughly 1/3 of our income.

On what ? Stuff that is obsolete prior to even being produced.

What we should have done is maintained our nuclear deterrence, this takes care of the big kid(s) on the block, and focused on targeted areas and taking out terrorists like smart countries are doing.

Our Total Military Spending in 2000 was roughly 350 billion. After 8 years of Bush it went over 900 Billion and it is now over 1 Trillion.

We could have easily held the line on military spending to inflation and this would have freed up roughly 600 billion a year over the last 15 years = 9 Trillion dollars.

That is 9 trillion dollars that we could have been spending on our infrastructure and retrofitting our economy to compete and get us into a good strategic position on the Global Chessboard of today. (or, god forbid, paying down debt).

What is this big boogieman that has caused us to engage in such fiscal irresponsibility ? A few dudes in towels that managed to get hold of some civilian aircraft and fly them into buildings ?

Really now ... what, where how ? Where is this boogieman ?

One Russian Sub: 16 missiles ( 10 MIRV/missile) = 160 nukes roughly 5-7 times the size of Hiroshima. Check 160 US cities of population 500,000 or more off the map and tell me what you have left.

That is one sub. In a full scale attack (after the Russians have taken out our satellites and the few ABM's put on their borders) we have 1000's of missiles not 5-7 times Hiroshima - (5-20 megaton) or roughly 400-1600 times the size of Hiroshima. (Each).

In the Castle Bravo nuclear test in the Bikini Islands an area of 7000 square miles was contaminated from one bomb.

The US has 3.1 million Square miles. 3,100,000/7000 = 441 bombs. The entire US (and Russia cause we would nuke them too) would be a red - no go zone- on the map.

The few people that managed to find drinkable groundwater would die of poisoning or if they managed to avoid that they would starve within a year.

Lets see how many "Go USA" "were the best and screw the rest" are still doing the "fist pump" after a full out nuclear exchange.

This conversation is nothing but a race to "Dumb", "Dumber" and "Dumbest"

 

And of course the West has never produced any clunkers, military or civilian. Ford Pinto and spontaneous combustion (27 recorded fatalities)? Ringing any bells? How about the Lockheed F104 'Widowmaker' Starfighter? Canada lost 46% of it's F104 fleet due to the appallingly bad design of this 'aeroplane'.

 

The F104 was designed as an high altitude interceptor. Canada tried to use them as fighter and ground support... for which it was ill design with almost no wingspan. It was all in all a powerful rocket to kill russian bombers. It wasn't the fault of the design but some silly political decision.

Wow a whole 27 fatalities on a production run of about 1 million units for the Ford Pinto... Not that bad. Should we talk about the Austin and the MG? You know your own (*)(*)(*)(*)ty cars that broke just by looking at them... Just like the Lada btw...

Or we could talk about the british subs that you sold us that can't even cross the atlantic without bursting in fire... Only one of the three is servicable today.

 

Which Austin and which MG? Be specific.

 

Why should I be? They all sucked compare to every other brand. Both brand are history while Ford is as of today one of the most popular brand (#5 worldwide).

 

Yea the F111 was a unique capability, replaced by cruise missiles pretty much. The FA18F in the RAAF is meant to use glide bomb's and air launched cruise missiles to replace that capability I think, to some extent. The F35A has a different mission though, and since external tanks can be jettisoned together with the capability for aerial refuelling - sort of means range is not really an issue for the roles the F35A is intended. The problem with the F111 is the emergence of integrated air defense and look down shoot down radar and missile tech. So the idea is the F35 can be survivable counter-air for the FA18F strike, to achieve some measure of air supremacy where the FA18F's can conduct med/hi CAS with the F35 keeping air supremacy and doing BAI enough for airborne intelligence platforms to support ground operations better.

 

YEAH!!!! RIGHT!!!!!.....THAT....is what a Chinese Sub is going to do....attempt to sink an American Aircraft Carrier!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

Although the Kittyhawk was not a Nimitz or Ford Class....as both the Nimitz and son to be at sea trials Ford Class U.S. Navy Aircraft Carriers are built in a manner of COMPARTMENTS.

The Kittyhawk is as well but admittedly not to the same level of Sophistication.

I don't care if that Little Chinese Sub hit the Kittyhawk with 1 or 6 Torpedoes.....the Kittyhawk is built to stay afloat.

A Nimitz or Ford Class Nuclear Aircraft Carrier....are near impossible to sink due to massive compartmentalization.

But THERE IS NO WAY.....we did not know that Chinese Sub was there.

If you read WIKILINKS.....there is a report that the Chinese Sub Commander purposely SURFACED......as in his opinion it seemed like the U.S. Carrier Batle Group was PURPOSELY closing in on it's position.

Now just to show every member just how uninformed SNAKE is about SUBMARINE WARFARE.........whether it be PEACETIME OR ACTUAL WAR.........A SUBMARINE COMMANDER.....NEVER....EVER...NEVER......N....E....V....E....R.......NEVER EVER will surface his Submarine if he is not being actively struc with SONAR DURING PEACETIME!!!


ASubmariner's JOB is to remain UNDETECTED FOR AS LONG AS POSSIBLE IN PEACETIME......and if detected a certain number of SONAR PINGS will be DEAFENINGLY DIRECTED AT HIS SUB....USUALLY 3 pings......during PEACETIME....to let that Sub Commander know that WE KNOW he is there...and the 3 PINGS mean he MUST SURFACE!!!


None of this was done.....WIKILINKS describes the Chinese ub Commander at being OVERLY CONCERNED that no active sonar PINGS were sent his way as this Sub Commander chose to SURFACE as he described the number of USN. Submarines that he felt MUST HAVE KNOWN HE WAS THERE....such as a SEAWOLF, SEVERAL VIRGINIA CLASS AND MULTIPLE LOS ANGELES CLASS ATTACK SUBMARINES......


....WHICH ARE THE MOST CAPABLE ATTACK CARRIER DEFENSIVE SUBS IN THE WORLD....on WIKILINKS the Chinese Sub Commander reported in his opinion THE WAS ABSOLUTELY NO WAY.....THE U.S. Navy Carrier Batle Group with it's large number of Attack Submarines protecting it.....U.S. Ocean Listening Sensors which exist in every ocean and exist ESPECIALLY in that area......the Carrier Groups Multiple Anti-Submarine Layers.....and especially U.S. Satellites giving DATA IN REAL TIME using MAGNOTOMETERS, DEEP GROUND AND DEEP SEA SATELLITE RADAR.....and a host of other detection methods....would allow that Chinese Sub to remain undetected.


AND THAT'S WHY HE SURFACED!!!!

NO WAY IN HELL DOES ANY SUBMARINE SURFACE IF IT IS AVOIDING DETECTION!!!!

AND NO WAY DOES THIS CHINESE SUB COMMANDER THINK HE IS NOT BEING DETECTED.

AND BECAUSE HE WAS NOT GIVEN 3 ACTIVE STRONG SONAR PINGS DIRECTLY TO HIS SUB.....HE GOT WORRIED AND SURFACED!!! Which is what he is SUPPOSED TO DO DURING PEACETIME.

Weallowed the Sub to get close to argue and WIN THE ARGUEMENT that Kittyhawk was too old a Carrier and thus the Japanese agreed to allow for the very first time a NUCLEAR POWERED AIRCRAFT CARRIER THE GEORGE WASHINGTOM BATTLE GROUP....to be stationed out of Japan!!!

AboveAlpha

 

A single F-35 can hold internally 2 1000 lbs JADAM'S while at the same time carrier a very large number of the Classified HYPERSONIC CUDA AIR TO AIR MISSILE'S.

The CUDA is VERY SMALL by standard Wing mounted Air to Air Missiles.

But the Cuda is mounted in fairly large number on a roatating Hampster Wheel Internal Mount.

The Hypersonic Cuba Air to Air Missile is so fast it does not even bother to carry an EXPLOSIVE WARHEAD!!!

With Ultra-High Tech. USAF Avionics and Fire Control Tracking and Targeting.....the CUDA impacts the enemy airaft at such a high velocity that this super fast USAF, USN and Marine Corp's F-35B specific missile can cause many times the damage of even the best current explosive warheaded Wing Carried Missiles.

AboveAlpha

 

Whatever......

Did you know that since the F-15 has benen Flying that NOT ONE F-15 HAS EVER BEEN SHOT DOWN BY ANOTHER ENEMIES AIRCRAFT!!!!


NOT ONE!!!!


So what's that?.........40 years!!! FOURTY YEARS!!! F...O...U...R...T...Y Y...E..A...R...S......PLUS.....the USAF as well as EVERY OTHER NATION SUCH AS JAPAN AND SAUDI ARABIA ....and many other U.S. Allies who have been flying F-15's and IN ALL THAT TIME NOT ONCE EVER HAS AN F-15 BEEN SHOT DOWN BY ANOTHER ENEMIES AIRCRAFT!!!!????


NOPE!!!

NOT ONE!!!

A BRACE...ie....TWO....F-22's Raptors can destroy up to 12 UPGRADED AND ADVANCED AVAIONICS AND TRACKING AND FIRE CONTROL SYSTEMED F-15C's.

Same thing with the F-35's

The new and NOW DEPLOYED Gen 6 version of the X-47B.....well a single one of these can destroy MULTIPLE F-22 RAPTORS.

And the Fully Autonomous GEN 7 Robotic Fighter/Attack/Recon USAF, USN upgrade of the Gen 6.....can be sent in in HUGE NUMBERS as they are relatively inexpensive considering the Cost of the F-22's and F-35's.....as some will be designed for MULTIPURPOSE ROLES.....some as STRICTLY BOMBERS.....some carrying HUGE NUMBERS OF CUDA HYPERSONIC AIR TO AIR MISSILES......SOME WILL BE CAPABLE OF DELIVERING A NUCLEAR PAYLOAD.....som designrd as strictly recon but they will be able to fly on station for periods from 24 to 72 hours depnding upon whether they also carry the CUDA or 1000 lbs JDAM'S.

THIS IS NOT SCIENCE FICTION.

WE ARE FLYING THESE SELF AUTONOMOUS ROBOTIC FIGHTER/ ATTACK, BOMBER AND RECON AIRCRAFT.....NOW!!!

Not in any great numbers as we just developed them but we have already fown then off and landed them on U.S.N. AIRCRAFT CARRIERS!!!

We have already flown them against F-22's and F-35's and they easily won those encounters.

BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY.....THEY ARE NOT DRONES!!!

We have been flying DRONES which although have autopilot require a ACTUAL PILOT ON THE GROUND TO FLY THEM.

These Gen 6 and Gen 7 Pilotless Airacraft CANNOT BE HACKED INTO.....CANNOT BE DETECTED BY RADAR OR IR-LIGHT DETECTION SYSTEMS EXISTING......CAN EASILY SHOOT DOWN EVEN THE VERY BEST FIGHTER AIRCRAFT IN THE WORLD WHICH IS THE F-22 RAPTOR......CAN STAY ALOFT FOR 24 TO 72 HOURS AT A TIME.....CAN BE MID-AIR REFUELED BY STEALTH FUEL CARRIERS OF THE SAME SELF AUTONOMOUS ROBOTIC SORT.......THUS THEY HAVE GLOBAL REACH AND VERSIONS CAN REACH VEKOCITIES NO FIGHTER CAN.

AboveAlpha

 

EXACTLY....if yoiur a U.S. Ally that does not have 250 Billion to Spend on huge numbers of say...the Eurofighter Typhoon......such as AUSTRALIA......as along with the F-35's will come an INTEGRATED SERVICE AND INTEGRATED INTERNATIONAL F-35 FLYERS SERVICE built into all of them that allows no 2 or 3 or etc....F-35 Pilots to fire Missiles at the same target!!!

Say 300 incoming Chinese Fighter/Attack Aircraft were on ther way to AUSSIEVILLE.

Not only can F-35's SHOOT....DESTROY AS MANY OF THE CHINESE AIRCRAFT and not waste Missiles or Cannon Fire because 2 yahoo Pilots are aiming at the same Chinese Aircraft......instead the F-35 Avionics and Targeting and Firecontrol System takes over as it can tap into all U.S. AWAC, E-3 Sentry, Naval Ship Radars, Ir-Detection.....as well as THE U.S. SPACE COMMANDS GLOBAL TARGETING AND TRACKING SYSTEMS INCLUDING DEEP EARTH AND DEEP SEA PENETRATING RADARS AND OTHER rADARS.

But most importanty......the U.S. is converting some B-1B's into B-1R's and B-1AAMC's

Thus a SUPERSONIC MASSIVE U.S. BOMBER WILL CARRY HUNDREDS UPON HUNDREDS OF AIR TO AIR MISSILES AND I CHECKED OUT THAT IF THEY CARRY THE CUDA HYPERSONIC MISSILES......6 TO 12 AUSSIE F-35'S COULD EASILY DESTROY OVER 300 CHINESE TOP OF THEIR LINE FIGHTER ATTACK AIRCRAFT............OR.......OR........if just carryig the much lighter and much smaller CUDA AIR TO AIR MISSILES......6 to 12 AUSSIE F-35'S COOULD DOWN UP TO PERHAPS 500 TO 600 CHINESE fIGHTER ATTACK AIRCRAFT LIKE THE CHIESE J-10!!!

AboveAlpha

 

Nope. MG is still in production and winning races. Austin, among others, was integrated into BMC in 1952 and continued in production until the 1970s under the Rover Group. 1905 to 1976 is a fair run for cars which "sucked".

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=M...confidence-heading-to-brands-hatch%2F;800;533

 

The F35 program has been beset by so many problems-mostly financial and with some safety issues also-that there have serious doubts cast by the Pentagon as to its future-which is not guaranteed, frankly.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-35_Lightning_II#Program_cost_increases_and_delays

And could you please tone down the capitalization. We don't like being yelled at. Thanks.

 

Snake...for you....I will try had to deal with my CAP issues.

Personally I am fairly certain that the F-35 Program will be mostly used for U.S. Allies and although the F-35 is expensive and there are isssues that still need to be worked out.....the combination of incredible stealth and survivability along with the Cuda Hypersonic Air to Air Missile System and the F-35's ability to also carry two 1000 lbs JDAMS.........but most importantly.....any Ally Nation equipped with F-35's will be able to network in to the massive and beyond capable U.S. Air Defense Network.

The U.S. is already moving beyond the F-35 and F-22 as the New Air Combat Modified Version of the X-47B which is a GEN 6 Self Autonomous Stealth Robotic Aircraft as well as the GEN 7 which is said to have used a Quantum Computer to calculate just how many versions of such an aircraft could be built as a MONSTER PERCENTAGE of the weight of an F-15C or F-22 or F-35

 

Lots of other research and projects are hidden in those 'expensive' F-35s budgets, plus such spending keeps some production lines and training going on in the manufacturing sectors as well as providing experience for engineers and managers as well, so while I think we spend far too much, I also support such projects and keeping them going; if we were to outsource everything we would be caught flat-footed and without infrastructure for building defense equipment. The F-35 itself is not really that important, it is what's involved in the manufacturing and designs of the program that is important all by itself. Some skill sets we can't afford to lose, and new ones need to be developed and experienced people needed to pass those skills on.

 

LOL what!!?? The days of dropping the F35 are loooooong gone. It's already on the flightline in large numbers with aircrews being trained. All cutting edge manned military aviation programs are only going to get more expensive and more complex... its not a sign of anything other then the actual value of the thing (provided its not incompetency in production). Innovation is hard work.

 

There is one all telling reality in all this.

Nations that are our Allies and use U.S. Weapons Systems......are never messed with.

You go independent.....you get messed with.

In some Military Systems we exist at between 50 and 100 years in advancement of anything else out there.

The Russian's can build some decent weapons.....but the GOAL of the U.S. Military is an INTERNATIONAL INTERSERVICE COMPUTERIZED TARGET SELECTION CAPABILITY and any one buying F-35's is going to get that.

But the U.S. Military is looking at the Furure with Direct Energy Weapons Systems.....I saw a new vid on the demonstration of the FEL.....it blew my mind.

The GOAL.....is to make war OBSOLETE!!

AboveAlpha

 

I'm still waiting on the F35E (for energy) concept (name my own), where they get the F35B structure and replace the lift jet with shaft driven generator and two small lasers for WVR defense!!! Something like that would probably be the ideal last ever manned strike fighter, as it could be relegated to low intensity counter-air and in high intensity high value airborne asset escort and forward airborne tactical C2 when airpower projection becomes completely unmanned.