The LGBT fraud has been exposed, and they’re definitely not happy about it

I would be equally opposed to government handing out tax breaks and governmental entitlements to those who engage in lechery, premarital sex or greed, just to help them feel better about themselves

 

Nope

You mean, like when I've repeatedly stated "homosexuality as an inherent and immutable trait of the individual" is nonexistent in the animal kingdom.

 

It wasn't presented as a position against homosexuality, Einstein. Why do you bother replying to my posts when you haven't even read them?

 

http://www.politicalforum.com/search.php?searchid=3105401

 

I cant prove a negative and instead point to your inability to provide even one example from the animal kingdom. Two female birds who never have sex with each other and ONLY engage in sexual relations with the opposite sex, does not fit the definition of this human invention of homosexuality as an inherent, immutable trait of the individual that creates a sexual attraction to the same sex..

 

Serious question, I hope you will respond.
What is the goal that people with your mentality have? Is it to just be able to deny service to gay people and that's it? If so, why is no one pushing against other sins in the Bible?
The reversal of marriage equality even though it in no way benefits anyone to do this?
Or do y'all just want to go back to the days where gay people hid in the shadows for fear of being mobbed or arrested?

Before it was non-discrimination ordinances it was marriage, before that it was military service, before that it was appearing in film and movies without being a "joke" character, before that it was the ability to see your partner in the hospital, before that was the ability to not be arrested for made up crimes, before that it was death or beatings. The anti-gay tribe has fought every step of the way, they didn't just suddenly say - this is to far - our mere existence was to far for them. So excuse me if I don't believe being able to refuse to bake a cake is the last straw.

I'm really trying to gain some insight into the other sides prospective but am usually met will illogical fallacies, being ignored completely or just regurgitated talking points.

 

I believe private businesses should be able to serve or not serve anyone they like and at most accept limited government action in the case of blacks who couldn't find a place to eat or a hotel, in some parts of the country due to discrimination. AND I don't think government should prevent the free exercise of religion, just because a religious person has opened a business. Has nothing to do with sexual orientation. And even those laws o blacks I don't believe are any longer needed. The government should encourage non discrimination. Not mandate it for only certain classifications and enforce with the threats of fines into the 100s of $10000.

 

Because you have no support for your assertion and is far fetched.

Prove is a product of human emotional reaction.

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So what?

 

Denial of the scientific facts on your part doesn't alter reality one iota!

At least 1500 separate species demonstrate homosexuality amongst same sex pairings.

 

Your claim is positive.

 

Glad to see that you are now denying your own nonsense against homosexuality.

That is a good start on your part.

 

Actually there are

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Its just that a link to search results doesn't work

http://www.politicalforum.com/search.php?searchid=3106259

 

Never engaging in sex with members of the same sex and only engaging in sex with the opposite sex, doesn't fit the human definition of homosexuality. AND engaging in sex with both the same and opposite sex isn't homosexuality.

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I'm right here, in your face, standing behind my statement 100%

But I understand why you need to pretend otherwise

 

Homosexuality as an inherent, immutable trait of an individual is nonexistent in the animal kingdom. And I still cant prove a negative

 

I cant be bothered with supporting your assertions.

 

Individuals within a species who never have sex with members of the same sex and instead only engage in sex with the opposite sex, isn't a demonstration of "homosexuality". And individuals within a species who engage in sex with both sexes isn't a demonstration of homosexuality. No matter how much you so desperately want to believe it is so Do you have any other demonstration?

Quick search on "1500" "species" and "homosexual" takes me to
http://www.news-medical.net/news/2006/10/23/1500-animal-species-practice-homosexuality.aspx

Their first example given top billing is-

"The most well-known homosexual animal is the dwarf chimpanzee, one of humanity's closes relatives. The entire species is bisexual."

Just demonstrates my point. Individuals within a species who engage in sex with both sexes, isn't a demonstration of "homosexuality" as an inherent immutable trait of the individual. ESPECIALLY when all individuals do so.

 

You still made a positive claim.

 

first of all most homosexual activity done amongst animals isn't sexual but about a showing dominance like prison rape
second of all animals experience mental disorders same as humans so by saying because animals do it means it is a normal is absurd
many animals eat their own crap so does that mean it is normal for humans to do so also?

 

It's your claim genius. You made it in post #625.

I copied it for you so you can't play dumb.

That's stupid. You have to first prove your assumption which is in red for your assertion to amount to anything.

Right now you have squat.

 

A restatement of YOUR claim in post # 621

Everything you highlighted in red, I placed within quotation marks, because I was quoting YOU.

 

Ive not made any statements claiming it was or was not normal. I am the one arguing that "Homosexuality" as an inherent and immutable trait of an individual, doesn't exist in nature, it is purely a human invention.

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And you still cant show a single example that shows otherwise. Homosexual BEHAVIOR is observed in the animal kingdom, Homosexuality is not.

 

no it isn't many have went from being homosexual to being straight.
sexual preference it is a state of mind a mental condition that can change over time like any state of mind or mental condition can
when I was a kid a hated most vegetables would only eat corn and green beans now there isn't a vegetable I don't like

 

No, that would be a strawman. I never the claim

 

Sure you did