The LGBT fraud has been exposed, and they’re definitely not happy about it

I don't give a (*)(*)(*)(*) about the animal kingdom.

You made a positive claim, that homosexuality is a human invention. Blathering pointlessly about the animal kingdom doesn't prove or even support your claim.

 

Well claiming it is a mental illness is a positive claim.

Show evidence that it is.

I can't show evidence that indicates that there was no science that supported the conclusion that homosexuality should be considered a mental illness.

I can only point to lack of support of the claim that it is.

You haven't supported that claim, nobody that makes it ever does. There isn't any science that supports it.

If there was you'd post it, you and all the other clowns that make that same moronic claim.

I've absolutely trashed [MENTION]Patriotnews [/MENTION] to the point he's too frightened to even bring it up. He's a better debator than you.

Post the evidence supporting your claim otherwise you're full of it.

 

They were never "homosexual" they merely engaged in homosexual behavior. The horny penitentiary convict who rapes the new smooth skinned 19 yr old inmate is engaging in homosexual behavior, even though he isn't a homosexual.

Ive never indicated otherwise. I'm the one who has probably posted this 20 times in response to the "born that way" crowd-

The separation of sexuality from procreation entails its freedom from heterosexuality and its emergence as an individual attribute, something individuals can develop, enjoy, change or project as part of their changing definition of the self. Sexuality becomes plastic because the self itself has broken the bounds of traditional institutional expectations and it is now free to constitute and reconstitute itself in a series of narratives answering to nothing else but the growing freedom of individuals to develop their potential.
http://www.colorado.edu/Sociology/gimenez/work/GIDDENS.TXT

 

LOLOLOLOL!!!!!! Silly, it is the other posters pointing to the animal kingdom in their pathetic attempts to refute my assertion that "homosexuality" an inherent and immutable trait of an individual, is purely a human invention. JUST AS ""Homosexuality" the biblical concept as a moral transgression of the individual was purely a human invention. JUST AS "Homosexuality", the mental disorder listed in the DSM was purely a human invention. None of these human concepts have been observed to exist in the animal kingdom

 

Never claimed it was. A mental disorder is whatever the APA decides to list as a mental disorder. It was in the past a mental disorder and now it no longer is a mental disorder. The APA can decide that voting Republican is a mental disorder and doing so will in fact become a mental disorder. These human invented concepts are like that.

 

Silly indeed, why are you posting your arguments to them but quoting me?

 

Incorrect. A mental disorder is defined as a behavioral or mental pattern that may cause suffering or a poor ability to function in life.

Incorrect, it was mistakenly labeled a mental disorder in the passed.

Only if it fits the criteria listed above.

They are observed behaviors. Much like gravity is observed. Is gravity a human invention? Life is observed, is life a human invention.

 

That would make him bisexual. He most certainly isn't heterosexual. Hetersexual men don't willingly have sex with other men.

 

YOU demanded that I

that

right before you said

 

Happens every day in prisons around the world.

 

That's how it is now defined. That is NOT how mental disorder was defined back then. And probably isn't how it will be defined 20 years from now. Human inventions are like that. We can define them however we like

"Homosexuality" as an inherent, immutable trait of the individual, isn't a behavior. No one denies homosexual behavior has always existed and it wasn't invented by man.

 

Not your assertions about the animal kingdom.

Your assertion that homosexuality is a human invention.

 

Between a bisexual man and his victim, or two bisexual men.

Hetersexual men don't have sex with other men willingly.

 

????? The complete absence of it in nature. Fire exists in nature, it is not a human invention. "Homosexuality", the inherent, immutable trait within individuals does not exist in nature, it is a human invention.

 

You seem to have your personal definition of homosexuality with the meaning of ONLY an attraction to the same sex and some kind of insurmountable aversion to the opposite sex, making such sexual relations impossible. By your definition, the majority of self identified gays and lesbians are in fact not, and are instead bisexuals. And I suspect, a large portion of self identified heterosexual men who have never considered having sex with someone of the same sex, are in fact bisexual, because if they were to be imprisoned in the future for 20 years they could end up engaging in their first willing homosexual encounter as a prisoner

 

That is how it was always defined

It's both.

 

You seem to have a rather irritating habit of reading more into things than are actually there.

Well if they are sexually attracted to both sexes is think that by definition would make them bisexual. Yes those people can identify as lesbian or gay as well a hetersexual.

That would make them bisexual.

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With bisexual men yes.

 

So it isn't present in the nature of human beings? Prove that please.

Seems to exist within individuals naturally. Are you saying it isn't natural among human beings?

 

Its a human invention, it is present wherever they decide to define it as present. But, what they define it to be in humans, is no where found in nature.

 

You don't have a clue as to what you are babbling on about. The definition from the DSM4 was changed in the DSM5

 

Same could be said for gravity.

So? Humans are quite unique.

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Why?..

 

Nope. Gravity is everywhere in nature. We only invented the label.

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They first had to change the definition to place homosexuality outside of the definition of mental disorders.

 

We invented the concept.

From what?

 

Nope, it was present before man on this earth.

 

The issue with this type of BS is that it uses circular logic. Homosexuality has not proven to be innate, true, but that is not proof that it isn't.

The same is true of it being a choice. There is no scientific evidence that it's a choice, and yet people like the OP do not care.

There are several studies that point to it being an inborn trait, but haven't been able to prove it genetically.


Also, does anyone else find it hilarious that the idea of homosexuality being a choice is used as justification for discrimination? Since when does choosing a certain lifestyle means someone does not deserve equal rights?