The LGBT fraud has been exposed, and they’re definitely not happy about it

Discussion in 'Gay & Lesbian Rights' started by sec, Nov 17, 2016.

  1. Vegas giants

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    Of course this is the most important point. Choices are constitutionally protected.
     
  2. Polydectes

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    The concept was here before man? explain.
     
  3. dixon76710

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    Lighting strike a tree in the pre human forest and BOOM. Fire
     
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    Only in response to the claim that it is unconstitutional discrimination because it is inherent, not a choice



    The issue with this type of BS is that it uses circular logic. Homosexuality has not proven to be innate, true, but that is not proof that it isn't.

    The same is true of it being a choice. There is no scientific evidence that it's a choice, and yet people like the OP do not care.

    There are several studies that point to it being an inborn trait, but haven't been able to prove it genetically.


    Also, does anyone else find it hilarious that the idea of homosexuality being a choice is used as justification for discrimination? Since when does choosing a certain lifestyle means someone does not deserve equal rights?[/QUOTE]
     
  5. Polydectes

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    That isn't a concept. You said the concept of homosexuality was a human invention. The concept of anything is a human invention. That includes fire
     
  6. dixon76710

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    My dog has a concept of fire
     
  7. Polydectes

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    prove it
     
  8. Derideo_Te

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    Your confirmation bias is your problem.

    Here are examples of 4 different species of animals engaging in homosexual sex acts;

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mammals_displaying_homosexual_behavior

    And then there are scientific studies like this one from Yale;

    http://www.yalescientific.org/2012/03/do-animals-exhibit-homosexuality/

     
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    Assumes factoids not in evidence.

    There is evidence of homosexuality in 1500 different species.

    Denying reality on your part does not alter reality one iota!

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    Assumes factoids not in evidence.

    There is evidence of homosexuality in 1500 different species.

    Denying reality on your part does not alter reality one iota!
     
  11. cd8ed

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    Dixon will just say it is homosexual "behavior" that has been observed and not homosexuality while ignoring the fact that the exact same argument can be made for heterosexual coupling in the animal kingdom. The he will repeat the same tired argument again ignoring that his point has been destroyed.

    They lost the scientific argument, the legal argument, the public's support and they are even starting to lose religious support. No demographic remains that the majority believe the propaganda besides blacks, individuals over 75 and white evangelical Protestants. The only people left will grasp for any straw remaining - which is why their arguments are becoming more and more bat(*)(*)(*)(*).
     
  12. guavaball

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    Of course this is true. Its amazing how many science hating liberals are out there.

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    Yeah. A little thing called the 1st amendment. You might want to read it sometime.


    Hating science will not make it untrue no matter what your LGBT religion tells you.
     
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    You've never once made a scientific argument.

    Just because it exists in nature doesn't make it natural. Cannibalism is far more prevalent than homosexuality in the animal kingdom and human culture for thousands of years and no one is stupid enough to claim its genetic based on that.

    The act of procreation destroys any fantasy you have about homosexuality being genetic. Give up this obsession of yours to pretend homosexuality is genetic. You might as well wish for Harvey Milk to not be a sexual predator of underage boys.
     
  14. cd8ed

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    Maybe you should read it, the 1A prohibits congress, it says nothing about states, individuals or private business.

    The scientific argument was attempted by the anti-gay proponents, if you want to disenfranchise an entire group of people you need a better argument than "my cherry picked passages from a man made and king edited book tells me so..."

    Sigh... Actually, it does:
    nat·u·ral
    ˈnaCH(ə)rəl/
    adjective
    existing in or caused by nature; not made or caused by humankind.

    I never claimed it was genetic, I stated that is has genetics could be one potential cause. I asked for your scientific evidence (expressive gene, genetic marker, DNA sequence) that heterosexuality is genetic - which you cannot provide. Again, "because I want it to be" is not a valid answer. You are expecting homosexuals to prove something to be treated equally while being unable to do so yourself.
     
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    You really need to be educated that federal law trumps state law especially after the gay marriage SCOTUS verdict? Really? Did you somehow forget that all state laws against gay marriage were immediately invalidated? Wow.

    I would say that too if I had no scientific argument for homosexuals and couldn't argue against procreation being the destroyer of any fantasy that homosexuality is genetic. You simply cannot deal with that reality.

    No, actually it doesn't.

    Can't you even read what you quote? Existing in OR caused by nature. Not both. Good Lord please read more carefully.

    The equiviliant being aliens are responsible for cow mutiliations.

    lol Its not because I want it to be. Its the genetic reality of the procreation of the species.

    Because the genetic markers are the XX and XY Chromosomes which make a person that sex which is the only way humans and most species naturally procreate is by male and female sexual intercourse. This incredible ignorance you are putting on display thumbing your nose at procreation is simply amazing.

    Gays cannot procreate naturally through gay sex no matter how much you wish it to be. Only heterosexual sex can for the species to continue to exist and that for some laughable reason to you doesn't make it genetic even though its the only way a species can naturally continue to exist. Amazing.
     
  16. cd8ed

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    Yes, federal law trumps state law. That does not mean business are forced by the 1A to service religious patrons. If the 1A would have said No law shall be made instead of Congress shall make no law you would have a point.

    I don't have a scientific cause or reason, neither do you

    The definition disagrees.

    What?

    Prove it, prove that it is genetic - DNA sequence, RNA sequence, expressive gene... anything

    Then it should be easy to produce a scientifically relevant gene - just as you are demanding of homosexuals

    We are discussing human orientation and the genes that you are demanding others prove exist, not procreation.
     
  17. dixon76710

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    Nope. Exclusively heterosexual behavior is observed all across the animal Kingdom.
     
  18. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    That's what I just said Einstein

    "Its just that a link to search results doesn't work"

    You've spent 10 times as much time asking for this, then it would have taken you to type into the search function my username and the word atheist. You got a tight grasp on the ignorance you refuse to let go of.

    Heres links to 20 posts that directly refute your claims. Do you need the other 221 linked to in order to convince you?


    http://www.politicalforum.com/showt...p=1066716934&highlight=atheist#post1066716934
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showt...p=1066689112&highlight=atheist#post1066689112
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showt...p=1066678476&highlight=atheist#post1066678476
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showt...=1066672635&highlight=atheist#post1066672635
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showt...p=1066671533&highlight=atheist#post1066671533
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showt...p=1066669412&highlight=atheist#post1066669412
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showt...p=1066653984&highlight=atheist#post1066653984
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showt...p=1066653726&highlight=atheist#post1066653726
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showt...p=1066517030&highlight=atheist#post1066517030
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showt...p=1066460455&highlight=atheist#post1066460455
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showt...p=1066297284&highlight=atheist#post1066297284
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showt...p=1066286876&highlight=atheist#post1066286876
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showt...p=1066285103&highlight=atheist#post1066285103
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showt...p=1066144831&highlight=atheist#post1066144831
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showt...p=1066073469&highlight=atheist#post1066073469
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showt...p=1066052730&highlight=atheist#post1066052730
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showt...p=1066046275&highlight=atheist#post1066046275
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showt...p=1066034780&highlight=atheist#post1066034780
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showt...p=1066014867&highlight=atheist#post1066014867
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showt...p=1065974577&highlight=atheist#post1065974577
     
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    Heterosexuality is a human invention.
    Bisexual and homosexual behavior is also observed.


    :roll:


    I'm still not sure what kind of sexy time animals have is relevant to whether or not homosexuals should be denied rights and discriminated against ...
     
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    BZZZZT Wrong!

    Homosexual behavior has been observed in 1500 different animal species.
     
  21. dixon76710

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    Nope, only bisexual and heterosexual behavior is observed.

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    Not exclusively homosexual behavior, only bisexual behavior.
     
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    Thank you!

    I went to everyone of those links and a couple stand out as bizarre for an atheist.

    For instance;

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showt...p=1066653726&highlight=atheist#post1066653726




    You claim to be an atheist but you BELIEVE "
    the only god, is that described in their original texts"?

    No genuine atheist would ever post anything like that.

    Do you even understand the meaning of the term atheist?​


     
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    Assumes factoids NOT in evidence.

    Onus is entirely on you to PROVE that it is "bisexual" behavior as opposed to homosexual behavior.
     
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    Um, you should give up. You don't even understand a written definition.
    If it exists in nature, it's natural. If nature causes something, it is natural. 2nd graders would understand what was written.

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    So does homosexual behavior.

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    Wow, you caught a bald faced fabrication.

    But in reality, no atheist is going to be so dead set and hateful to gays. Only a religious person would care to hate so deeply. It's the way to paradise I guess for some religious folks.
     
  25. cd8ed

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    Demonstrably false

    Again - what does animal behavior have to do with whether gay people deserve equal rights?
     

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